Game is jerky with 40+ FPS

Hello,

I'm having some issues with jerkiness in La Noscea, and to a lesser extent in Coerthas. My issues in La Noscea are usually worst around aetherye camps, but I encounter the problem elsewhere also. It usually occurs when passing through clumps of dense vegetation, but its very inconsistent (some bushes cause lag, while others don't). My framerates have yet to fall below 40, and the jerkiness manifests itself even at 56 FPS. I don't believe its caused by loading npcs and players in the camps, as the jerkiness remains even if I sit near the camp for several minutes.

EDIT: I also experience FPS drops when warping into a city (which is to be expected, I know), but there is no jerkiness accompanying it. I only experience jerkiness in the above zones.

My system specs:
i5-2500k
HD6950 1gb
8gb ddr3 1600
Asus p8z68-v/gen3
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SSD

My game settings:

Video Settings:
Windowed
1680x1050
2x MSAA
8 General Drawing
4 Background Drawing
Standard Shadow Detail

Graphics:
Only hardware mouse checked
Textures set to high

Thanks!

Just set your fps to 30, there is no real difference that myself or anyone I have talked to can tell (outside of smoother flowing video) and your graphics card will run cooler :D

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Just set your fps to 30, there is no real difference that myself or anyone I have talked to can tell (outside of smoother flowing video) and your graphics card will run cooler :D

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Its not an issue of FPS dropping though. My FPS doesn't drop below 60 in very many places, and I don't think there should be major choppiness at 56 FPS.

It just is what worked for me so I thought I would suggest it to help solve your woes :)

Since I turned my fps to 30 the game seems to run smoother with no visual difference. A few other ppl I know had the same issue you are having too and turning down the fps worked for them.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

It just is what worked for me so I thought I would suggest it to help solve your woes :)

Since I turned my fps to 30 the game seems to run smoother with no visual difference. A few other ppl I know had the same issue you are having too and turning down the fps worked for them.

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I definitely appreciate your suggestion. I'll give it a try, thanks.

Do you have any videos running in the background? Flash as well? Those use GPU now and when I forgot I left them on, the game gets jerky with my 5850.

Try changing to first person view. If that eliminates your issue, then it's camera stuttering, nothing you can do about it, not until 2.0 anyway.

Does the problem also appear in fullscreen mode?

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Try changing to first person view. If that eliminates your issue, then it's camera stuttering, nothing you can do about it, not until 2.0 anyway.

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Try this. I use a controller and I manage to get out of the jerky camera by going into/exiting first person, so the camera resets itself.

I believe I have found the issue, but I'll have to play around with it for a while to be sure. I was using a windower program that simply centers the ffxiv window on the screen. With that disabled, the problem is vastly improved if not fixed altogether. Wouldn't have thought it was affecting anything but through your suggestions I was able to figure it out, so I really appreciate the responses. Does anyone know of an officially supported method of centering the window?

Thanks for the help!

There is none. Any type of 3rd party software is not allowed by SE, so it's either play windowed, or hope nothing takes focus from your ffxiv window. The very first windower managed to create true, non-crashing fullscreen but was shut down by SE because it involved injecting itself into the ffxivgame process, which is basically a hack.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

There is none. Any type of 3rd party software is not allowed by SE, so it's either play windowed, or hope nothing takes focus from your ffxiv window. The very first windower managed to create true, non-crashing fullscreen but was shut down by SE because it involved injecting itself into the ffxivgame process, which is basically a hack.

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Well, the thing I was using just repositioned the window. It wasn't like the xi windower where you could run plugins and stuff. Thanks for the information though, I guess I'll just eyeball it for now.

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Originally Posted by FireKetchup

Well, the thing I was using just repositioned the window.

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Yes. SE still rates it as illegal, just not pursuing people actively... yet. I wish they'd just fix the crash for 1.0. If a hacker can do it, then they should be able to, too.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Yes. SE still rates it as illegal, just not pursuing people actively... yet. I wish they'd just fix the crash for 1.0. If a hacker can do it, then they should be able to, too.

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Don't even need a hacker. Only takes a single Windows API call to hide the border and center the window (any window on-screen, not just FF).

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Originally Posted by tymora

Don't even need a hacker. Only takes a single Windows API call to hide the border and center the window (any window on-screen, not just FF).

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Except that's not fullscreen (aka DX exclusive mode) but "windowed fullscreen", which means the rest of the programs might still be rendered (flash, video) and Crossfire/SLI won't work.

I'm guessing what the first windower did was wrapping itself around the exe and handling the exceptions correctly. This exception ("Lost Device") we're getting is really a basic one, and every competent programmer should be able to implement exception handling for it unless they are lazy. No, our current engine is not an excuse as proof of concept (namely the first windower) already exists.

The original Windower still works. It's what I use... I enable the alternative detection mode so the login application isn't compromised. I can't recall where I found it. Once the game loads a DLL is loaded into the process's memory space, disables the border and allows you to change monitor resolutions without crashing the game. You still must set the game to run in a Window.

The problem probly with the hard drive loading
i have no problems with the game at all .. but when it needs to load an area it just starts to stutter

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Just set your fps to 30, there is no real difference that myself or anyone I have talked to can tell (outside of smoother flowing video) and your graphics card will run cooler :D

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Hi, This my sound like a stupid question, but How do you set your FPS to 30? I'm using GeForce GTX 460M and I couldn't find the option to adjust the FPS anywhere in the nvidia control panel.

It's inside the game. Menu->Configuration->System I think.

This has already been posted in the poll thread.

50mbps cable connection
MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III (O.C.)
Intel I7 2600K @ 4.2GHz which is water cooled, mind you.
ASUS Maximus Extreme IV mobo (one of the sickest gaming mobos)
FFXIV Installed onto a pretty quick SSD, dedicated specifically to FFXIV

And to add, my Windows Experience Index aka System Rating is 7.2 and that's without extremely O.C.ing RAM, CPU, and Graphics card.

I can understand if I'm not able to use either of the two options in the config, one of them being the Depth of Field... but seriously? This lag.. is a joke.

I'm aware that the servers are in Japan. But I think it's time to focus on the hardware. Drop some hardware in the middle of the U.S. and in the EU.

And I'm curious, what hardware do they use to host this game on? I would cringe at the idea of the hardware being anything BUT Cisco.

So please SE, get the bugs, and the lag out.. that should be your next project manager's priority.

To add:

Please do NOT tell me it has anything to do with my computer nor my internet connectivity.. THAT claim is a damn joke.

After this server merge.. if the lag gets any worst than this, I quit. I don't need to pay to play a broken game with new content on it, that is simply illogical.


And by the way, I can even see the lag problem when I'm crafting for goodness sake.. that's BARELY any animation involved. To add.. I've played one too many MMOs of all sorts to know better than to believe it's a problem on my end.

Edit: With my system I should easily handle 60fps

Your computer is the issue and your internet is too slow! :P
SE knows about that stuff. They said it will be better with 2.0 (lawl as if anyone believes that)

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Originally Posted by Coldfire

Your computer is the issue and your internet is too slow! :P
SE knows about that stuff. They said it will be better with 2.0 (lawl as if anyone believes that)

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I don't understand why it has to take more than a year to fix this issue. I know everyone wants new content.. but we shouldn't have to pay for a service in which isn't optimized. Why is it that every other gaming company that exists whether it's for the Wii, PS3, XBOX360, and PC... they are always quick to patch the game even if it takes a full day or more of down time, yet SE refuses to fix the performance issue.. We pay a monthly service while many other games out there it's a 1 time fee.. the purchasing of the game, yet they get better service.

SE needs to take a good look at their history and what made them successful... otherwise the prosperity of their game will come to an early end.

Just sayin, SE needs to get their priorities straightened out.