A serious case of house scam in [Zodiark].
Today, one of my friend got scam for buy house.
Old story.
They are selling the best plot in this game, we both know which one it is.
He deposit the 70m gil to the company chest, then get kicked. Then he desperately ask them to not do this and promise to add another 100m.
Then my friend added another 50m, then, get kicked again.
Really old story.
What different is that, this kind scam has been continually happened in same FC for more than one year.
From the chest gil transaction history, he saw that. Every month, every day, there is a ppl got scam.
Then the new lv1 character will join the FC take the money then leave.
New green character will join the FC , become the FC leader and continue to scam. From the history, that more than 2 billion gil has been involved.
So many ppl’s hardworking.
Just because they got the best house in this game. The house that everyone dreams for.
We know its grey zone, what can we do? If the only thing left is this game for him is just the house?
When can we got an official market board for house? Market is the best hand to deal with the economic? Isn’t that right?
Can we get market board for house pls?
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03-22-2019, 06:15 AMshantaniCan we get market board for house pls?
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03-22-2019, 06:25 AMEli85
While this kind of scam is deplorable, if you fall for it, you only have yourself to blame. When you're asked to deposit money into an FC chest, with naught but a promise from the other person that the agreement will be fulfilled, that should be a red flag right there. If you still deposit it, yup, you only got yourself to blame.
Buy and selling plots on the market board would be a good idea, but not for the reason you describe. People really just need to use their brains more. -
03-22-2019, 06:25 AMDustytomeI'm sorry, but if they stole 70m, why would your friend not only offer more but repeat the exact same mistake? Report the scammer immediately, especially if anything was said in game in regards to the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by shantani
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03-22-2019, 06:42 AMshantaniQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli85
The point is there is no such function in this game but ppl do need this function.
And I am talking about an organized crime in this game is happening for one year, and it should be ended now.
My friend may lost his mind at that time. Not everyone can keep their intellent when they saw what they are dreaming for years.
There are ppl getting scammed each month, each day. None of them are foolish. Especially they have earned so much Gil in this game.
They just have no way but only trust. -
03-22-2019, 06:52 AMElazulHP
Sounds like a front for RMT. I'd report them immediately.
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03-22-2019, 08:47 AMNessaWyvern
I think it's actually against ToS to buy and sell houses from players in game (that's what I have heard at least).
EDIT:
I found a thread with a screencapped GM response that reselling houses IS against ToS.
"To clarify, the resale of estates and land via Party Finder or any other means is a Prohibited Activity as it falls into the category of Inappropriate Behavior."
Visit this thread for more info: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-this-thread
So guys, stop buying and selling houses, you could get scammed and it's against ToS.
Just wait around and check each individual ward like the rest of us to get houses. It's how I got mine :P
Another Edit: Lots of conflicting GM responses, I wouldn't do it just to stay on the safe side. -
03-22-2019, 08:59 AMTroySoFab
I'm just curious to know which plot you say is the best plot in the game.
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03-22-2019, 09:55 AMGomJabbarIt's not, but in this case the person was buying the FC that happened to have a house attached. If you detail the arrangement in GAME chat, the GM's will absolutely get involved with the person scamming. If you make arrangements through discord or reddit (or however people do this now), and say nothing in game chat, then yes, there is nothing the GM's can do to help.Quote:
Originally Posted by NessaWyvern
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03-22-2019, 10:24 AMDustytomeI would still report the user. If they have a repeat offense for this sort of thing the GMs may decide to take action anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by GomJabbar
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03-22-2019, 11:23 AMRosa_Frandlia
This brings up an interesting thought, in-game realtor NPC! You put your house up for sale with the realtor, then the realtor acts as a go between. You can also see the realtor about empty lots too and not have to check every ward in every city. If Ishgard housing is added, that is nearly 100 wards to look through manually. Right now it is at 72.
I agree though, OP's friend really should report the person. -
03-22-2019, 12:38 PMEli85Need? No. You are very much misusing that word. There is very, very little anyone truly needs in a video game.Quote:
Originally Posted by shantani
If you are so blinded by your "ideal plot," that you are willing to trust a complete stranger with that much gil, there is not much to say that's nice. Nothing needs to be changed to remedy that problem; people just need to think more. -
03-22-2019, 06:23 PMshantani
The GM is suggesting that we should put a post in the forum. Since they seems like aware of this issue, but they have no ability to stop the scams.
All the trade was happened in game without anything else involved. My friend got the full copy of the conversation.
The scam is still happening, that ppl is still active in the game and try to scam more ppls. As long as they keep that FC, this kind scam will keep going. Not everyone will read and dig the threats. -
03-22-2019, 07:13 PMtdb
There's only so much you can do to prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. Sure, a sanctioned way to trade houses would be nice, but what's to say these scammers would not just ignore it and continue to scam anyway? If it's the "best plot in the game", not many players would be willing to part with it and there would be no offers on the MB. Would your friend have been able to smell the fish with someone selling the house outside of MB? I suspect not.
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04-03-2019, 11:38 PMshantani
What happens to our GM group and ToS? That guy who scammed more than 10 ppl, got 1 billion illegal, is still active?
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04-04-2019, 12:09 AMLambdafishSo the first problem here is that it wasn't you who got scammed, its like how SE will ignore a report if it didn't happen to you specifically. There is also not a lot that can be done here on the forums. Those 10 people should report the individual and move on. Like with real life scams, all you can do is report the fraud and move on with your life putting measures in place to protect yourself in future. Sometimes you get lucky and the scam is reversed, and sometimes you are unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by shantani
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04-04-2019, 12:54 AMMinerva-Redwater
Houses were never meant to be sold for 3x+ the amount the person bought it for and I'm pretty sure it's against the rules. If you fall for scams like this or pay this much money for a house, people have themselves to blame.
I disagree with having houses being sold on the market board as making profit out of them is not their purpose. -
04-04-2019, 01:26 AMBright-Flower
I wouldn't mind it if there was a single board that listed empty plots you could buy from instead of having to go to the plot.
But selling plots to other players directly is against the terms of service, and is the reason why they added the random timer whenever someone vacates a plot. To the best of my knowledge, buying FCs to get around this is also against the rules.
The scam is deplorable, but at the same time buying the houses is against the rules. I'd suggest your friend report the scammer, but any in game evidence that you agreed to do this could just get the scammer and your friend in trouble, so I'm not sure there's any recourse for it.
Unfortunately there isn't really any way I can think of to stop people from selling FCs with plots because if you just lock a FC with a plot to its current owner that means FCs where the header quits the game or something are just stuck in a bad spot with them unable to pass leader on in legit circumstances.