We interrupt your current server woes to talk about casting

Have fun.

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A spell will be canceled if the character moves while it is being cast.

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This annoyed the crap out of me in XI, cuse I would run into battle then cast, on my screen i stopped, had a picnic, tied my shoe laces, then begn casting, but on the server I was still running for 2 seconds thus the server goes NO and interrupts me.

Be that, all over again... yay....

PS. Video shows Black Mage icon woo! (and odd gear lol)
http://xivpads.com/-up/i/wutsthis.jpg

inb4 ifrit's too hard can't run from cracks in cast at same time.

Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble!


http://i43.tinypic.com/xefd5.jpg

yea that adds the dynamics and "realism" we were all hoping for.

I never cared for it in FFXI and was extremely happy that it wasn't an issue in FFXIV. Now that it's coming... ugh. But... meh.

Hopefully this "H" business will override the stupid 3-4-second wait before being able to cast in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

inb4 ifrit's too hard can't run from cracks in cast at same time.

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This actually helps alot more in Ifrit because most of the times u were stuck in animation is because you can't cancel it in time, hence the community develop 'wait-for-ifrit-to-use-skill' strat.

Faces the target with "H" key.

Defeats target with Burst (Combo).

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

This actually helps alot more in Ifrit because most of the times u were stuck in animation is because you can't cancel it in time, hence the community develop 'wait-for-ifrit-to-use-skill' strat.

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I know. But look at the people we are dealing with in this game.

Edit: What I'm mainly talking about though is people not being able to cure tank because the a running from cracks and can't cast and run back like most do. And/or the back wave move will cause interruptions now causing it harder to heal. I won't and you won't but many people will like always,

doesnt seem to be animation lock when a spell is cancelled by running. yum!

Burst

/10char

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Originally Posted by viion

This annoyed the crap out of me in XI, cuse I would run into battle then cast, on my screen i stopped, had a picnic, tied my shoe laces, then begn casting, but on the server I was still running for 2 seconds thus the server goes NO and interrupts me.

Be that, all over again... yay....

PS. Video shows Black Mage icon woo! (and odd gear lol)
http://xivpads.com/-up/i/wutsthis.jpg

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Yes finally fkin clicking the spell a second time to stop casting was retarded. Also anyone notice those 2 blue arrows next to the hp bar to show when your moving and not moving :)

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Originally Posted by Answa

I never cared for it in FFXI and was extremely happy that it wasn't an issue in FFXIV. Now that it's coming... ugh. But... meh.

Hopefully this "H" business will override the stupid 3-4-second wait before being able to cast in FFXI.

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Yeah, at this point with all the soul destroying changes they have made to mages and crafting, I'm just like:

http://i43.tinypic.com/minc5t.jpg

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Yeah, at this point with all the soul destroying changes they have made to mages and crafting, I'm just like:

http://i43.tinypic.com/minc5t.jpg

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Quoting for truth.

____________Damage___Recast______MP

Thunder________761 - 6 seconds -___210MP

Thundara(combo) 1233 - 15 seconds - 378MP

Burst(combo)____1973 - 15 MINUTES - 252 MP

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Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful

____________Damage___Recast______MP

Thunder________761 - 6 seconds -___210MP

Thundara(combo) 1233 - 15 seconds - 378MP

Burst(combo)____1973 - 15 MINUTES - 252 MP

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Hopefully that recast is just messed up from testing purposes or something.
Seems way high.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

Hopefully that recast is just messed up from testing purposes or something.
Seems way high.

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Yeah, that is what I was thinking as well.

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Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful

Yeah, that is what I was thinking as well.

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Think that might be right look @ mp cost /dmg that's pretty good but could be wrong XD

blm also has only 2k hp but no mp increase as far as i can tell.

Looks like they listened in part...they showed the enemies dying with a spell/ability which is a finisher. :D

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

inb4 ifrit's too hard can't run from cracks in cast at same time.

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You get double the punishment when you are locked out temporarily before and after you are interrupted, oh joy !!

I like the fact we don't have to confirm spells twice now though, i can nuke my ass off as THM yay !

bah and here I was just recently used to playing a MMO where I could cast a spell without getting it interupted at 99% cause my character sneezed.
Oh well least animation lock problems will be partialy solved for casters.

Btw is it just me that feels that the spell animations and impacts are realy underwhelming, and a 15min recast isn't realy gonna fit well for XIV, feels more like a recast time from XI.
I'd rather see they balance it with longer cast time or higher mp cost, or a mix of both, we already have so few spells to cast that long cooldowns isnt realy going to add any form of enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

You get double the punishment when you are locked out temporarily before and after you are interrupted, oh joy !!

I like the fact we don't have to confirm spells twice now though, i can nuke my ass off as THM yay !

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Look @ the vid its an icon next to the hp bar that shoes when your char is moving and not moving. So if you mess up its your own fault <.<

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Originally Posted by Firon

Look @ the vid its an icon next to the hp bar that shoes when your char is moving and not moving. So if you mess up its your own fault <.<

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Doesn't matter if it's their own fault or not they will still complain.
See world merge threads for an example.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Look @ the vid its an icon next to the hp bar that shoes when your char is moving and not moving. So if you mess up its your own fault <.<

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I think thats bullshit, half the time I can't tell what Ifrit is doing cause im looking at his ass end.

I was kind of being sarcastic anyway, seems there is no stop to cast animation lock when you move after a spell which as someone above said was the main issue.

Besides I've seen you get caught in plume plenty /grins

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

Doesn't matter if it's their own fault or not they will still complain.
See world merge threads for an example.

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That's true I'm having a field day with the server merger thread, so gooood to read. They deserve it too for all the bashing they gave the dev team for working hard.

I like how the casting bar is still messed up even for SE, who are in Japan, playing on localhost lolzzz

Moogle is gonna be fun.
And by "fun" I mean "Good thing I'm mostly nuking instead of healing when I do it"

what exactly does this fix and or how does it enhance the gameplay?

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Originally Posted by TheRac25

what exactly does this fix and or how does it enhance the gameplay?

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Basically it will make PVP fair .. when its added, cause Yoshida thinks its not fair for casters to have an advantage in PVP.

Or something like that :S

I'm hoping the Burst cooldown is wrong and only 15 minutes for some weird testing purposes. Another thing is they removed the cooldown on sleep, so who knows what any of the actual cooldowns will be. Although its possible that the crowd control changes they were talking about for 1.21 involve eliminating the cooldown of sleep. Or maybe they were using sleepga and it has a shorter cooldown.

I guess my point is that speculation is... pointless. Wait a week and find out.

so pvp, an afterthought in se mmos, is responsible for this?

It makes sense that Burst is 15 mins, although I would expect ancient magic to do more damage especially with that cooldown.

I assume we still have Thundaga somewhere if we want to use that, but we all know how much it sucks.

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Originally Posted by TheRac25

so pvp, an afterthought in se mmos, is responsible for this?

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That or
"because it was in XI"
"It makes the game more immersive for me"
"It makes the game more challenging you casuals need to go find a new game"

Take your pick

*disclaimer
these are not my personal thoughts.

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Originally Posted by TheRac25

so pvp, an afterthought in se mmos, is responsible for this?

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Actually, Yoshi-P explained that he felt it was to balance both PvE and PvP.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post506046

I'm most excited to see that we'll now have the option to turn off sub-targeting. That extra enter-key confirmation only creates a redundancy for many keyboard/mouse players. Finally, now I can just click my target, choose my spell and it casts. <3

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I'm most excited to see that we'll now have the option to turn off sub-targeting. That extra enter-key confirmation only creates a redundancy for many keyboard/mouse players. Finally, now I can just click my target, choose my spell and it casts. <3

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Im curious if this will work for gamepad users also, Ie target ifrit and just cast spells with no conformation, will have to try it :D

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I'm most excited to see that we'll now have the option to turn off sub-targeting. That extra enter-key confirmation only creates a redundancy for many keyboard/mouse players. Finally, now I can just click my target, choose my spell and it casts. <3

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I am so blind to not realise that was happening lol even after reading it, love this as i hated the extra 42 button presses i had to do!

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Im curious if this will work for gamepad users also, Ie target ifrit and just cast spells with no conformation, will have to try it :D

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Yea I don't know what they are smoking saying turning off sub-targeting will be bad for gamepad users. If you ask me this is a godsend. We have targeting modes, it's easy to switch between them. We don't need subtargeting.

I am still against this change. I still say that in a game that is about adjusting to the situation at hand. forcibly locking people into place is a step in the wrong direction.

And the whole /facetarget (h-key) thing is a bit confusing. While it will be great for full and part time meat heads. Does this mean that we will have to be physically facing a target to cast on it now? I can see that becoming an issue. The you are moving icon is kind of nifty i will admit, how ever the servers are still in mother may I mode. It does not mater what your client says only what the server dictates.

Though I think the people most effected by these changes are going to be lower level mages who are out solo. crowd control abilitys early on are almost non existent. And my way of coping with that was to kite my ass off.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

I know. But look at the people we are dealing with in this game.

Edit: What I'm mainly talking about though is people not being able to cure tank because the a running from cracks and can't cast and run back like most do. And/or the back wave move will cause interruptions now causing it harder to heal. I won't and you won't but many people will like always,

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Also, you're not taking in factors like server lag, life sucks when three plumes appear under you all at once, being able to cancel on the run may not save you, but it will improve your chances.