The /emotes we need.

Can please add in the following emotes

/smoke
/drunkstance
/bite
/pipesmoke
/evil laugh

Just some of the emotes we should have in sb shes smoking mostly so why cant we.

Because it's gross?

Uh smoking.
Not in this game im afraid.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Can please add in the following emotes

/smoke
/drunkstance
/bite
/pipesmoke
/evil laugh

Just some of the emotes we should have in sb shes smoking mostly so why cant we.

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Of those listed /bite and /evil laugh could be reasonably added for the smoking/drunk ones the game would need to update its rating to allow them which can only be done for expansion's launch it is one thing to show drinking and smoking it's another to allow the possibility for player controlled characters to binge smoke/drink and require separate ratings i'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Of those listed /bite and /evil laugh could be reasonably added for the smoking/drunk ones the game would need to update its rating to allow them which can only be done for expansion's launch it is one thing to show drinking and smoking it's another to allow the possibility for player controlled characters to binge smoke/drink and require separate ratings i'm afraid.

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It wouldnt need a update rating lol the rating says drugs,alchol lol...

We got drunk npcs and some that smoke even primal that smokes so they are all reasonable lol

I dunno, the ESRB is weird about adding more references to that sort of thing and may want to 'reevaluate" the rating. Basically nothing would likely change, but they'd waste a lot of time.

Also never doubt the Australian gov't to censor the ever loving crap out of it.

Heh. Joe Camel says hi. It's one thing to have npcs smoking, it's another to have kids playing characters doing the same. I doubt SE really wants to open that can of worms.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

It wouldnt need a update rating lol the rating says drugs,alchol lol...

We got drunk npcs and some that smoke even primal that smokes so they are all reasonable lol

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First off it's hard to take you seriously when you pepper your speech with lols. Second, there is a fine line between drug use being referenced and actually being used by the player, which does have an impact on a game's rating.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

First off it's hard to take you seriously when you pepper your speech with lols. Second, there is a fine line between drug use being referenced and actually being used by the player, which does have an impact on a game's rating.

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Not rlly even if that were true the games current rating is mature so honestly its fine if females almost all armor is nude lol

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Not rlly even if that were true the games current rating is mature so honestly its fine if females almost all armor is nude lol

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The current rating is for Teens in the US.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Not rlly even if that were true the games current rating is mature so honestly its fine if females almost all armor is nude lol

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http://i64.tinypic.com/1zzjcbo.jpg
It's at the bottom of the webpage on the Lodestone.
And there is no nudity in the game.

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Originally Posted by linay

The current rating is for Teens in the US.

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Doesnt matter lol still rates mature even if it did matter..

If we could eat candy cigerates years ago and was fine we can have a smoke emote

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

It wouldnt need a update rating lol the rating says drugs,alchol lol...

We got drunk npcs and some that smoke even primal that smokes so they are all reasonable lol

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Guide to how things are classed in ESRBS
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.aspx

Stormblood's ESRB:
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...yfkGTqIjUg.png

While it does say use of alcohol and tobacco it is still a teen rating so 13+ having a /smoke emote or a /drunk emote would absolutely require the rating to be upgraded to Mature 17+ possibly adult as it is illegal to serve alcohol in any establishment to anyone under the age of 18 (in UK at least) There is no way SE is going to allow minors to make their playable characters drunk or smoke you cannot have these emotes till the rating has been increased which can only happen with an expansion's launch. Shadowbringers has yet to have an ESRB so depending on that your /smoke and /drunk emote ideas may be possible

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Guide to how things are classed in ESRBS
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.aspx

Stormblood's ESRB:
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...yfkGTqIjUg.png

While it does say use of alcohol and tobacco it is still a teen rating so 13+ having a /smoke emote or a /drunk emote would absolutely require the rating to be upgraded to Mature 17+ possibly adult as it is illegal to serve alcohol in any establishment to anyone under the age of 18 (in UK at least) There is no way SE is going to allow minors to make their playable characters drunk or smoke you cannot have these emotes till the rating has been increased which can only happen with an expansion's launch. Shadowbringers has yet to have an ESRB so depending on that your /smoke and /drunk emote ideas may be possible

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Its a game if ppl are letting kids play grand theft auto and COd i doubt they would have any issue with it overall no matter what the rating is

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Its a game if ppl are letting kids play grand theft auto and COd i doubt they would have any issue with it overall no matter what the rating is

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You're starting to sound like you might not be old enough for an M rating anyway...

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Its a game if ppl are letting kids play grand theft auto and COd i doubt they would have any issue with it overall no matter what the rating is

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And it's entirely up to those parents if they want to let their kids play mature games, but there are also plenty of parents out there who would have their kids' accounts cancelled over a re-evaluation in rating. It's still something that SE would have to weigh the pros against the cons and make a calculated decision on whether to go in that direction.

That being said, there are other games that have such emotes, and a 'drunk' emote would be fun to play around with. As is, however, the closest we have to one is the 'charmed' emote you get from the ananta beast tribe quests which is more comical than anything.

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

And it's entirely up to those parents if they want to let their kids play mature games, but there are also plenty of parents out there who would have their kids' accounts cancelled over a re-evaluation in rating. It's still something that SE would have to weigh the pros against the cons and make a calculated decision on whether to go in that direction.

That being said, there are other games that have such emotes, and a 'drunk' emote would be fun to play around with. As is, however, the closest we have to one is the 'charmed' emote you get from the ananta beast tribe quests which is more comical than anything.

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Or be reasonable and create a win win situation they could create 18+ worlds only

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Or be reasonable and create a win win situation they could create 18+ worlds only

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Likely would be far more costly to implement than would be worth it in the long run. Same reason they haven't given us 1.x-era servers or level-cap 75 ffxi servers, which are things that the playerbase of both these games have asked for before. More than likely, whatever they give us will be added in an update to all servers at once, exactly as they've been doing for years.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Or be reasonable and create a win win situation they could create 18+ worlds only

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I really do not know if adding these emotes will change the rating, but if it will, then I don't think creating 18+ only worlds would make a difference because as soon as it's part of the game (and not entirely player created), then it will affect the regulation for the entire game. Also, in the Q&A session in Paris, they mentioned they couldn't even show a particular scene of someone being shot by an arrow even though this game already has violence and death.

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Originally Posted by linay

I really do not know if adding these emotes will change the rating, but if it will, then I don't think creating 18+ only worlds would make a difference because as soon as it's part of the game (and not entirely player created), then it will affect the regulation for the entire game. Also, in the Q&A session in Paris, they mentioned they couldn't even show a particular scene of someone being shot by an arrow even though this game already has violence and death.

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Well they can give they had a thicker backbone and said screw the rating and make it anyways..

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Well they can give they had a thicker backbone and said screw the rating and make it anyways..

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It's not about courage, it's about marketability and profit. They will go for whichever rating they think will bring the most profit.

Ive posted this before but theres plenty we could use:

An option to let an certain emotes play indefinitely
/drunk emote
/smoke emote
/sleep while sitting emote where you sit there and sleep, and not wake up
/sleep emote on any flat surface where you actually go into the sleeping emote
sitting emotes with weapons drawn - Such as polishing your samurai sword, or reading from your book as a scholar while seated
/eating emote while seated
/drinking emote while seated
More weapon stances for all weapons


Im drawing a blank atm but I am sure there are more that would be nice.


Id also like to point out, FFXIV has a T rating, the same rating WoW has. You can get drunk in WoW. Claiming you cant do a drunk emote (and even a smoke emote) doesnt hold weight if we have T rated games that do both as it already is. Also, keep in mind that we see characters actually smoke in both games, and one of the housing items is a cigar. A lit one, gently smoldering. So yes, we could have one as far as I can tell, and no it shoudlnt change the games rating.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Well they can give they had a thicker backbone and said screw the rating and make it anyways..

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If they ignored the ESRB rating system the game would end up banned in every country that uses it. That's not how it works, not even remotely close.

Look, if you want to smoke, go do it in real life. It's not cool, it never has been, and never will be. It doesn't belong in the game, end of story.

Collab with Epic Games and give us the Fortnite /defaultdance. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

If they ignored the ESRB rating system the game would end up banned in every country that uses it. That's not how it works, not even remotely close.

Look, if you want to smoke, go do it in real life. It's not cool, it never has been, and never will be. It doesn't belong in the game, end of story.

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Expect it does when a npc does it lol

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

If they ignored the ESRB rating system the game would end up banned in every country that uses it. That's not how it works, not even remotely close.

Look, if you want to smoke, go do it in real life. It's not cool, it never has been, and never will be. It doesn't belong in the game, end of story.

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If you don't like smoking then don't smoke. This is a video game. Digital characters having a cigarette isn't going to give you cancer. This is a fantasy game that has already established usage of tobacco and alcohol in its setting. Allowing players to use emotes to smoke or drink doesn't change anything ratings wise. You apparently missed the part where it says "Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB". Your opinion doesn't dictate what belongs in a game enjoyed by thousands of other people. You're entitled to your opinion but keep it at that. Its not a fact or some holy grail everyone else has to abide by.

As much as I abhor smoking irl, I have no moral issues with a smoking emote. We already have NPCs that smoke, as well as strong indicators that the players smoke, in the form of cigar and cigarette furnishings.
Fair point about the potential Ratings Board issues though.

What could definitely get around ratings issue is a /drunk emote, as long as you obfuscate it just a little bit. If it were just called /stupor and none of the flavor text outright said it was from being drunk, it could easily pass.

Come to think of it, our characters can literally consume alcohol by partaking of the Chilled Red and other alcoholic furnishings and meals, so maybe not fair point about the ratings board issues. If "kid" players can already drink in this game, why can't they smoke?

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Originally Posted by Beckett

Come to think of it, our characters can literally consume alcohol by partaking of the Chilled Red and other alcoholic furnishings and meals, so maybe not fair point about the ratings board issues. If "kid" players can already drink in this game, why can't they smoke?

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It depends on context though. Chilled red behaves like any other consumable food item in the game would; it gives your character buffs but otherwise does nothing. If it gave any sort of drunken effect, SE would probably have to consider rating and whether or not their fan base would generally consider it appropriate or take issue with it. Not saying that it couldn’t be done without issue though.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Well they can give they had a thicker backbone and said screw the rating and make it anyways..

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I've seen some things on the forum but this is the dumbest post I've ever read.
Do you understand how ratings work? Do you know anything about game development at all?
It's not about a "backbone", it's about laws. They give their game to a rating's board and the board gives them a rating based on the kind of content that's in it. If they include any kind of content that goes over the rating then they're subject to fines or even having the game pulled from sale.

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Originally Posted by Corue

I've seen some things on the forum but this is the dumbest post I've ever read.
Do you understand how ratings work? Do you know anything about game development at all?
It's not about a "backbone", it's about laws. They give their game to a rating's board and the board gives them a rating based on the kind of content that's in it. If they include any kind of content that goes over the rating then they're subject to fines or even having the game pulled from sale.

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Im well aware of laws but who cares lol laws are man written only has power if you let it. As for that you can sell games just in a store concept

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

Id also like to point out, FFXIV has a T rating, the same rating WoW has. You can get drunk in WoW. Claiming you cant do a drunk emote (and even a smoke emote) doesnt hold weight if we have T rated games that do both as it already is. Also, keep in mind that we see characters actually smoke in both games, and one of the housing items is a cigar. A lit one, gently smoldering. So yes, we could have one as far as I can tell, and no it shoudlnt change the games rating.

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Interestingly enough, aside from gore and crude humor, WoW seems to have either equivalent or milder content descriptors compared to FFXIV.

Our characters have to have some degree of fitness to defeat primal and run as long as they do. Characters being drunk, or being smokers who can just kill a primal easily right after seems a little immersion breaking.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Im well aware of laws but who cares lol laws are man written only has power if you let it. As for that you can sell games just in a store concept

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Oh my god, you're just bullshitting at this point. So laws are optional now? I don't know how anyone's taking you seriously anymore.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Our characters have to have some degree of fitness to defeat primal and run as long as they do. Characters being drunk, or being smokers who can just kill a primal easily right after seems a little immersion breaking.

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Lol say that 2 masters of drunken boxing lol hell you can be fit and smoke in fact you can be better fighter drunk

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Oh my god, you're just bullshitting at this point. So laws are optional now? I don't know how anyone's taking you seriously anymore.

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Laws that are made by over protective parents like federal laws 4 games,movies radio are optional if people had a backbone they could force those ppl 2 not be so up tight business in the entertainment industry have more power than those who make those unreasonable guidelines

Also ps idc if ppl take me serious are not your not my proplem or a friend so ya


You can believe whatever you want I'm not here to suck up to random ppl i care nothing about I'm just stating facts

This conversation again...

The ESRB rating for the game would go unchanged in the US if these emotes were to be included. You can make a case about the rating potentially changing in other countries as every country has their own standards, but here in the US it wouldn't necessitate a ratings change.

For example, drinking Alcohol in WoW shows your character drinking said beverage, blurs the screen the more you drink, will end up puking if drinking too much, and while drunk the player character will swerve during movement, even while in direct control of the player. It's still rated T.

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Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6

Lol say that 2 masters of drunken boxing lol hell you can be fit and smoke in fact you can be better fighter drunk

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You do realise that masters of the drunken boxing style arent actually drunk, they just imitate the movements of drunk people. The style is all about deception and catching people off-guard.

If you can't see straight, walk straight, hit straight or even keep your balance, you probably wouldn't be the better fighter.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

You do realise that masters of the drunken boxing style arent actually drunk, they just imitate the movements of drunk people. The style is all about deception and catching people off-guard.

If you can't see straight, walk straight, hit straight or even keep your balance, you probably wouldn't be the better fighter.

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That wasnt what i ment

I cant give you a number but some ppl fight better drunk ive only known one ... and trust me the biggest person you know would be scared to fight him when he was drunk lol

Also being drunk effects ppl different i for example have no balance when sober i get drunk and i am completely balanced in fact due 2 a physical condition sober wise i have issue walking straight i get drunk i can walk straight lines non stop

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Our characters have to have some degree of fitness to defeat primal and run as long as they do. Characters being drunk, or being smokers who can just kill a primal easily right after seems a little immersion breaking.

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Emotes are highly appealing to role-players. Many of whom choose to ignore the whole 'Warrior of Light' thing and settle instead on playing regular adventurers or civilians.

Ah, I see. It was actually the WoD who started the great wood fire, they were so drunk they fell over a tree branch and their cigarette fell out of their hand and started the blaze! What Y'sholda actually meant was that she was going to staunch the blaze and keep back the Viera while the WoD staggers off to find a bucket to staunch the flames. Sadly they were so drunk, they fell over again, passed out and somehow found themselves in Mhor Dohna walking along a barren tundra while having a major hangover.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Our characters have to have some degree of fitness to defeat primal and run as long as they do. Characters being drunk, or being smokers who can just kill a primal easily right after seems a little immersion breaking.

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You wouldn't expect a slayer of gods to /blowkiss or /tremble either, but there you go.

You've got to expect some narrative dissonance between cutscenes and player interactions.