Stagnant Housing

Hello, I know this is an issue that has been brought up before but I would like to readdress it. I was hoping the SE would have taken some time since their last housing update in 3.2 to make some changes. I understand that Servers have been highly congested and additional room for housing is not available yet. Yet they have not seemed to address the issue that some players have quit and are not coming back. Sad to say I have some friends that have done so. No matter what I try they will and are not coming back. So there their house sits month on end taking up precious server space, for what? I do not know how hard it would do a purge of the housing but I think SE should try to do one before Shadowbringers. With the new database coming out and 5.0 I'm sure it will allow new housing district to be built but until then let's clean out some space and not make players wait 5 months for a chance at a location that is not being used in the first place. I feel like housing is a strong aspect of FF14 and more players should have a chance to experience it. Anyone have any thoughts, Should long gone players lose their homes or not?

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Originally Posted by Roseblood_Tharvin

Hello, I know this is an issue that has been brought up before but I would like to readdress it. I was hoping the SE would have taken some time since their last housing update in 3.2 to make some changes. I understand that Servers have been highly congested and additional room for housing is not available yet. Yet they have not seemed to address the issue that some players have quit and are not coming back. Sad to say I have some friends that have done so. No matter what I try they will and are not coming back. So there their house sits month on end taking up precious server space, for what? I do not know how hard it would do a purge of the housing but I think SE should try to do one before Shadowbringers. With the new database coming out and 5.0 I'm sure it will allow new housing district to be built but until then let's clean out some space and not make players wait 5 months for a chance at a location that is not being used in the first place. I feel like housing is a strong aspect of FF14 and more players should have a chance to experience it. Anyone have any thoughts, Should long gone players lose their homes or not?

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The houses normally have a natural purge process when they are not accessed within 45 days. See this. The NA servers currently have this process paused due to natural disasters, but when it turns back on we'll see houses auto-demolished on a regular basis.

The demolition timers were paused for last October's hurricane season.

Best thing you can do is keep an eye open for the announcement of the timers being re-activated THEN count 45 days after that because that is when a lot of housed will explode at once because if a player enters the house during the suspension period the timer starts at 45 days when it recommences. It was how I got my Shirogane medium last February.

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Originally Posted by Septonyte

The demolition timers were paused for last October's hurricane season.

Best thing you can do is keep an eye open for the announcement of the timers being re-activated THEN count 45 days after that because that is when a lot of housed will explode at once because if a player enters the house during the suspension period the timer starts at 45 days when it recommences. It was how I got my Shirogane medium last February.

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Houses will start "exploding" on the day the timer re-commences, however you are correct in thinking the big purge will be 45 days after the timer re-starts.

I can understand this concern on larger servers, but Midgardsormr isn't exactly hurting for houses. Last I checked we had over 200 open plots in Goblet alone.

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Originally Posted by Beckett

I can understand this concern on larger servers, but Midgardsormr isn't exactly hurting for houses. Last I checked we had over 200 open plots in Goblet alone.

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9 times out of 9, it's "but the plot I want isn't open". /shrug emoji

I posted in the other thread about auto-demolition about my opinion on the current housing design. Summarizing it I feel housing has stagnated heavily and doesn't encourage social interaction due to there being so many zones splitting up the player base. I feel to get over this instanced housing needs to be implemented.

Ideally there should be a complete redesign (Mist, Goblet, Lavender Beds and Shirogane) and make plots equally viable or at least not put a huge rock or other players houses directly in front of a house. For example imagine if you had a row of plots all facing the beach and close to market boards & NPCs. There also needs to be a combining of wards in some manner so that people can interact with each other more easily in a housing location. This would then make mannequins somewhat useful since you would actually have customers who didn't stumble on your house by accident. Why does everyone congregate in Limsa Lominsa for example, this would be because its a centralized hub with easy access to market boards, its basically what I wanted housing to be but housing is a far cry from this.

Speaking of this there will always be the players who prefer to not interact with other players with their housing and there could be the option of being completely separated from other players housing via instances e.g. Apartments but with the perks of being able to show friends and FC members your garden and house exterior/interior.

There's so much they can do with housing, they just need to prioritize it higher than content such as Eureka which to me felt like a mistake since they had to link Stormblood Relic progression to it directly in order to get people actively using it.

I want housing to be useful (as a crafter I would eventually like the ability to have customers purchase some items from my retainers directly without needing a market board middleman stealing money if I happen to have a message on the noticeboard saying I sell armor sets [yes I want a noticeboard too]), allow for more socializing by having more players in the one area and have an improved aesthetic design of the wards especially if instanced housing is introduced which would need a complete redesign anyway due to certain plots being favored over the others e.g Mist Plot #6.

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Originally Posted by Losara

I posted in the other thread about auto-demolition about my opinion on the current housing design. Summarizing it I feel housing has stagnated heavily and doesn't encourage social interaction due to there being so many zones splitting up the player base. I feel to get over this instanced housing needs to be implemented.

Ideally there should be a complete redesign (Mist, Goblet, Lavender Beds and Shirogane) and make plots equally viable or at least not put a huge rock or other players houses directly in front of a house. For example imagine if you had a row of plots all facing the beach and close to market boards & NPCs. There also needs to be a combining of wards in some manner so that people can interact with each other more easily in a housing location. This would then make mannequins somewhat useful since you would actually have customers who didn't stumble on your house by accident. Why does everyone congregate in Limsa Lominsa for example, this would be because its a centralized hub with easy access to market boards, its basically what I wanted housing to be but housing is a far cry from this.

Speaking of this there will always be the players who prefer to not interact with other players with their housing and there could be the option of being completely separated from other players housing via instances e.g. Apartments but with the perks of being able to show friends and FC members your garden and house exterior/interior.

There's so much they can do with housing, they just need to prioritize it higher than content such as Eureka which to me felt like a mistake since they had to link Stormblood Relic progression to it directly in order to get people actively using it.

I want housing to be useful (as a crafter I would eventually like the ability to have customers purchase some items from my retainers directly without needing a market board middleman stealing money if I happen to have a message on the noticeboard saying I sell armor sets [yes I want a noticeboard too]), allow for more socializing by having more players in the one area and have an improved aesthetic design of the wards especially if instanced housing is introduced which would need a complete redesign anyway due to certain plots being favored over the others e.g Mist Plot #6.

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wouldn't it be sorta boring if the wards were redesigned to not have plots in scenic locations? when the wards were expanded i was online early to snag my fc's spot in goblet because i wanted us to be seen as soon as you enter the goblet(shoutout to plot 4), it's special and a sorta power spot.

I wouldnt have minded if we ended up somewhere else but I feel thats what makes housing special is aiming for the prime locations, you may not get one this year but you never know when an fc may die or someone never comes back and that spot opens up

If everyone can't have access to housing then nobody should have access to housing. The housing acquisition system is pathetic.

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Originally Posted by AbandonHopeTD

If everyone can't have access to housing then nobody should have access to housing. The housing acquisition system is pathetic.

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Everyone has access to housing. It's just not what you want because you feel entitled to more.

The only argument I can agree with is lack of gardening for apartments. If gardening is super important to you, I can see how you would want a plot.

But you wanting to feel special with the same amount of space as everyone else is not the same as you not having access to housing. Not to mention most people don't even hang out in their homes, decorate them or use them. You can pretend on the internet that you will but the data is different.

Frame your "argument" correctly. It's better to be like "im salty because I can't get my perfect house exactly where I want it" and then propose ways in which that can be remedied. Add value to the conversation.

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Originally Posted by AbandonHopeTD

If everyone can't have access to housing then nobody should have access to housing. The housing acquisition system is pathetic.

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Not a good argument really, however I think that SE should've done something like this:

1. All houses restricted to FCs only and apartments for personal use.
2. Provide individual gardens for players to grow plants in (I'm aware there's coding issues regarding this.)
3. All houses start as small and can be upgraded to large (yes I know it's not possible to do now as there isn't enough room to allow for house expansions but this is something SE should've thought of at the very start.)

As for what can be done now all SE can do is keep releasing more wards but that uses more server space, puts more strain on the game, and there will always be people either still without a house because they didn't get there fast enough or people with multiple accounts snapping them up and holding them for ransom at a much higher value especially the large and medium plots.

Does anyone know if they’ve started the count down for the 45 days yet? I’ve got a character on Sargatanas but zero housing plots are free. I don’t want to get too far with this character on this server, work hard to build up over 1 mil gil - which is hard to do when you only have 1 hour or so to play the game every now and then each week after work and life is taken care of - and then zero houses are freed up. I’d have to start a new character on another new server and start all over again...

No, they havent restarted the timer yet. Nor have they said when they would. With that said, you dont have to abandon the character yet. Theyve announced that when they reorganize the data centers this spring there will be free transfers available. So just play and save for now, and when that gets close you can consider doing some research on a good landing spot. The timer will also go back on at some point, with many players speculating that the 4.56 patch will be the time(since that should give some houses time to expire in time for the server transfer window).

Once the timer gets turned back on there should be smalls readily available on Sarg. I used to post in the housing census thread every few weeks for the server and before the timer freeze there was normally a good amount of smalls and the occasional medium. That said you are probably going to have to pay full price or close to it, especially if you want anything outside of the Goblet, so keep saving.

I agree with this post. My FC is on Cactuar and we've been looking for a house for a month now. Bout 3 and a 1/2 weeks ago a house came open on the server and we lost out to one of the multiple players and FC's camping on it. Then 2 came open and we lost those. Then there hasn't been an open house for sale on the server since. Can we at least get separate districts for FC's to make it easier for free companies to obtain a guild house? That or turn the timer back on.