5.0 New Game Plus — Let me re-level

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12-24-2018, 11:32 PM
Lalarrific

5.0 New Game Plus — Let me re-level

First, I'm just happy that New Game+ is going to exist, since I've been wanting to replay the MSQ. Having said that, I'd like the option to start New Game+ with just my main class at level 1, rather than with all classes fully leveled (creating a new character isn't feasible, due to my MogStation and event items.)
12-24-2018, 11:46 PM
DrWho2010

what? that makes absolutely no sense. that's just the same as creating a new character. how is creating a new character not feasible. you don't need any of that stuff if you're just doing msq on a new char.
12-24-2018, 11:52 PM
Nalien

I'd want this solely so I can unlock Dark Knight/Astrologian/Machinist/Samurai/Red Mage/Soldier/Dancer and set them to Lv1 to level them from that like God intended.

A shame they're missing gear options IIRC, Samurai and Red Mage at least have no weapons at low levels outside Lv1 glamour pieces. So reseting such jobs would render them unplayable.
12-24-2018, 11:59 PM
SturmChurro

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

what? that makes absolutely no sense. that's just the same as creating a new character. how is creating a new character not feasible. you don't need any of that stuff if you're just doing msq on a new char.

Exactly, my thinking.. Just to have the cosmetics in cutscenes?
12-25-2018, 12:11 AM
Seraphor

Just give us world level sync.
12-25-2018, 02:06 AM
RyuDragnier

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Just give us world level sync.

Party sync still needed, badly. I want to help friends without making them unable to get experience.
12-25-2018, 03:16 AM
SannaR

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I'd want this solely so I can unlock Dark Knight/Astrologian/Machinist/Samurai/Red Mage/Soldier/Dancer and set them to Lv1 to level them from that like God intended.

A shame they're missing gear options IIRC, Samurai and Red Mage at least have no weapons at low levels outside Lv1 glamour pieces. So reseting such jobs would render them unplayable.

Then why not all jobs? No job starts at level 1 at the moment because they're jobs and not classes. Blue is a different animal that is linked to a new system. Sorry just can't think of any Square game that had new game + that made you go back to level one.
12-25-2018, 03:59 AM
Kurando

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Sorry just can't think of any Square game that had new game + that made you go back to level one.

Final Fantasy X-2. You could use New Game + to start the story over from level one, but keep all your abilities, items, gear etc. XV also has NG+ now as well though not sure how that works as never utilised it.
12-25-2018, 04:20 AM
Derio

No. I want new game plus so I can level SAM and RDM.
12-25-2018, 04:29 AM
Awful

I'm not trying to damper on anyone's parade but I don't really get New Game+ to me this is an MMO and if you want to relive the story why not make an alt? If people like the OP are only worried about cosmetics then it's very particular on their end. I'm the weirdo that when I see an awesome moment from say the Drk storyline it's like "wow that's amazing I hope everyone gets to live this out" kinda like a one and done deal, something you got to experience through your own story.

I get people wanna re-live it but I just don't really see the big hype for it I know in some FF games mentioned above the New Game+ feature and that makes sense maybe I'm missing something because this is an MMO and I'd just make an alt if I wanted to do the story again.
12-25-2018, 04:47 AM
Final-Fantasy

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Originally Posted by Derio

No. I want new game plus so I can level SAM and RDM.

This new feature will be great if it allows EXP reward from the MSQ again, so you can use it to also level up alternate jobs!
12-25-2018, 05:45 AM
Sandpark

New Game plus for me is being able to start at the beginning with all the stuff you unlocked available from the get go for the previous playthrough. All the skills, gear, mounts, dungeons, glamours, emotes, mount speed upgrades, etc, with all the MSQ resetting(with content unlocks already done). New game plus in an mmo? It would be cool if they did it like Dark Souls where you get stronger and stronger and every monster gets stronger and stronger with rewards increasing each playthrough.

That would probably require special new game plus servers to not break balance though lol.

So I am pretty sure it won't turn out like my wish. I guess a good reason for new game plus in an mmo if the above never happened. Is the ability to enter any content that normally had group restrictions was lifted so I could go help out a low level friend. Maybe there could be a merit point type system for doing all that stuff with other people, keeping all the lower level content more relevant.

But yeah if I still have to unlock everything then I will just roll an alt like I have been.
12-25-2018, 08:22 AM
WellFooled

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Originally Posted by Awful

I'm not trying to damper on anyone's parade but I don't really get New Game+ to me this is an MMO and if you want to relive the story why not make an alt? If people like the OP are only worried about cosmetics then it's very particular on their end. I'm the weirdo that when I see an awesome moment from say the Drk storyline it's like "wow that's amazing I hope everyone gets to live this out" kinda like a one and done deal, something you got to experience through your own story.

I get people wanna re-live it but I just don't really see the big hype for it I know in some FF games mentioned above the New Game+ feature and that makes sense maybe I'm missing something because this is an MMO and I'd just make an alt if I wanted to do the story again.

To make an alt on the same server (with your friends) you have to pay a higher subscription fee to allow more than one character slot. I for one also want to relive the story as MY Warrior of Light and I can't do that with an alt. Doranaux Wavemet can't be the name of two different characters. An alt would also need to level up (which mind you, is what the OP is asking for) and that means you couldn't -just- relive the story, you'd also have to do some grinding. That grinding is wasted if its on a throwaway alt you've made just for the story. Making an alt also means you don't have your gil stockpile or vanity items that you might want to take part of.
12-25-2018, 08:55 AM
worldofneil

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I'd want this solely so I can unlock Dark Knight/Astrologian/Machinist/Samurai/Red Mage/Soldier/Dancer and set them to Lv1 to level them from that like God intended.

SE intended them to start at 30/50, there are no weapons with a lower level than that. As such you literally cannot start them at 1.
12-25-2018, 01:19 PM
Lalarrific

I don't see the problem with giving players the option to start over from level 1, but keep their houses (accessible again once they finish the level 10 quest) and their stuff. I like my current character, and want to replay the game using her. But I don't want to feel overpowered while I'm doing early quests. New Game+ should still feel like I'm starting a new game.
12-25-2018, 01:38 PM
Aylis

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Final Fantasy X-2. You could use New Game + to start the story over from level one, but keep all your abilities, items, gear etc. XV also has NG+ now as well though not sure how that works as never utilised it.

Parasite Eve comes to mind too. Near the end of the game the player could choose a name for their favorite armor and favorite gun. When the game ended the player could then select "New Game" and both the armor and gun as well as anything the player put into the police station storage carried over to the next game at the start.

I only remembered it cos it was the only way I got through the Chrysler Building >_>
12-25-2018, 02:39 PM
Dustytome

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Originally Posted by Lalarrific

I don't see the problem with giving players the option to start over from level 1, but keep their houses (accessible again once they finish the level 10 quest) and their stuff. I like my current character, and want to replay the game using her. But I don't want to feel overpowered while I'm doing early quests. New Game+ should still feel like I'm starting a new game.

You still get level synced for a lot of the solo-instance quests at least as well as any dungeons you choose to queue for normally.
12-25-2018, 03:52 PM
MsQi

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Originally Posted by Lalarrific

I don't see the problem with giving players the option to start over from level 1, but keep their houses (accessible again once they finish the level 10 quest) and their stuff. I like my current character, and want to replay the game using her. But I don't want to feel overpowered while I'm doing early quests. New Game+ should still feel like I'm starting a new game.

Save your character's appearance, Start a new character and load the appearance. You can always come back to your original character and have all your stuff.
12-25-2018, 04:10 PM
NessaWyvern

I guess new game plus would be good for all the out of cutscene interactions, I always wondered what the other multi choice question responses were.
12-25-2018, 08:14 PM
RukiaFae

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Originally Posted by MsQi

Save your character's appearance, Start a new character and load the appearance. You can always come back to your original character and have all your stuff.

People want to redo certain quests and story lines without having to relevel. Some people don't want to waste time doing that. I have an ALT at 60 and I don't want to waste time leveling to 70 just to replay SB story line. It was a pain getting back to 60 when I wanted to redo the HW story. Now I will be able to redo any story line I want without slogging through hours of boring low level dungeons.
12-25-2018, 08:25 PM
MsQi

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

People want to redo certain quests and story lines without having to relevel. Some people don't want to waste time doing that. I have an ALT at 60 and I don't want to waste time leveling to 70 just to replay SB story line. It was a pain getting back to 60 when I wanted to redo the HW story. Now I will be able to redo any story line I want without slogging through hours of boring low level dungeons.

I understand that but you see I was talking to the OP who specifically stated she wanted to relevel. The new game+ system may give you what you want.
12-25-2018, 10:07 PM
Iscah

What about picking a different class? Do you have any left at level 1 that you'd be interested in playing? (Maybe if they let you play blue mage? I assume you can, especially if you've unlocked it before resetting your progress, however it exactly works.)
12-25-2018, 10:18 PM
Ilan

I know i might be alone on this but i have to say: Again a waste of resources that could've been put into more important things like creating new dungeons for the endgame.
12-25-2018, 10:37 PM
Iscah

It depends how much work it is, I guess.

I think they've said in the past that they can't let people replay individual solo instances, apparently because it will mess up story flags or something. So maybe it's simple to reset everything - perhaps it only stores one piece of information about where you are in the story, and replaying Quest #1 makes it forget that you were ever anywhere else. But your EXP levels are separate to story progress, so they're not affected.
12-25-2018, 11:54 PM
Lalarrific

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Do you have any left at level 1 that you'd be interested in playing?

I might choose a different city-state to start in, so I could see their early story branch. Another reason is because I'd be able to level in rotation while there are still quests to break up the grind. There's nothing worse than completing all the low level story quests, but half a dozen classes still need leveled. It leads to burnout.

Honestly, I'd be satisfied if there was a way to transfer purchased MogStation outfits (and preferably event outfits) to a new character. Really, a lot of it is about sunk cost.
12-26-2018, 01:03 AM
RukiaFae

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Originally Posted by MsQi

I understand that but you see I was talking to the OP who specifically stated she wanted to relevel. The new game+ system may give you what you want.

Oh ok. I'm sorry I thought this was in response to what is the purpose of feature.
12-26-2018, 10:42 AM
odintius

I just wonder if you start over can you change you city state?
12-26-2018, 10:52 AM
KadaRemnant

Because the items of events and stuff bought in mog station. Don't really want to buy everything all over again and lose everything.
12-26-2018, 02:00 PM
SannaR

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Final Fantasy X-2. You could use New Game + to start the story over from level one, but keep all your abilities, items, gear etc. XV also has NG+ now as well though not sure how that works as never utilised it.

Sorry my mind didn't go there as it could only think of Crono Triger where if I remember right you kept everything as I remember being able to use Crono's highest spell on the robot guy at the fair if you really wanted to waste the mp instead of just having Merle attack the poor thing as Crono tends to be super overkill.
04-09-2020, 03:42 AM
Chaotikali

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Final Fantasy X-2. You could use New Game + to start the story over from level one, but keep all your abilities, items, gear etc. XV also has NG+ now as well though not sure how that works as never utilised it.

You talking the remastered version of X-2? Haven't beaten the remaster but all my save files from the ps2 version when I use NG+, I start out at whatever level they left off on, just loose all key items. The only FF game I've seen do that version of NG+ so far was the remaster of 12 TZA, and they also added a NG- where you stay at level 1 through the whole game.

My whole 2 cents on this however, is I think it is awesome they are adding it and making it like traditional NG+ that they introduced back in Chrono Trigger. Just curious how it works though since I'm still playing through Stormblood.