One more Pagos ranting...

After reading this:

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

There should have been someone at some point saying "Are players going to like this?" and they should be taken seriously. That they aren't isn't a good sign.

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I really really just cant imagine how you guys testetd that... like, did you even get one weapon without any dev/GM cheats...?

I do not mind heavy grind, i DO mind it this late at this patch since the rewards will be replaced by crafted or new primal stuff in less then a month, or even less depending on how bad the grind actually is.

Anemos was painfull too, at first, but it wasnt this bad...

At least some daily "oh the xyz water mobs destabilize the ather, go and kill a 30/60/90 of em!" quest with some reward, a "kill 30 mobs of each element for bonus exp" or anything... it literally feels like pagos is jsut there to stall us for 4.4. Yet i do not expect logos before 4.4.35-36 either...


Dunno i love this game but smt its just depressing...

Edit: Literally that xD

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

Definition of Pagos:
There's a 3m high wall that needs painting, here's a 5mm brush for you to do it.
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- what do you mean you're not having fun?

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you do realize that by the end of the expansion the relic will be the best weapon to have (even perhaps over the final raid tier weapon)? It should last quite a while seeing as 5.0 is still a year away.

I'm having fun.
Maybe you guys just need a proper winter glamour.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I'm having fun.
Maybe you guys just need a proper winter glamour.

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Are you ever not wearing a winter coat? How do you deal with heat waves in that coat? :P

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Originally Posted by Thamorian

Are you ever not wearing a winter coat? :P

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The world isn't ready for what's under this coat.

All can say about Pagos it is a total failure and waste of space. It could been something enjoyable instead they made changes that no one wanted. Just hope they replace the ones who came up with the changes. Eureka Anemos is way more fun to be in. Pretty sure they cut the exp. get from NMs and monsters along with the crystals get from the NMs. Friend told me even japanese player base is calling Pagos dumb and don't like it.

I did do a relic, though nerved, it wasnt nerved that heard yet. And i did most the Anime stuff way pre nerf, even did another one right before it was nerfed even more xD

It just... even now ppl get more and more unfriendly day by day. Not all ofc, but still...

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Originally Posted by Canadane

The world isn't ready for what's under this coat.

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I...... am curious. lol I wanna find out hah

My biggest problem is there's no party sync. I level with some FC friends and I'm already 28 but I have one other really good friend who doesn't get to play as much so they are WAY behind. I can't even play Pagos with them now because I'm to high level. Now they just don't really want to do the zone.

I would be more than fine with an optional sync down to +3 levels higher than the lowest level person in the party. I might be getting less exp over all but at least I'm not trashing my friends exp and I can help them get caught up.

Also, when 5.0 comes out people going back to get their 4.x relic will be near impossible unless they do away with the sync. I doubt they will though.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you do realize that by the end of the expansion the relic will be the best weapon to have (even perhaps over the final raid tier weapon)? It should last quite a while seeing as 5.0 is still a year away.

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Yes, but why spent hours on a boring grind when the Pagos equivalent step will be rendered utterly meaningless in a month? I suspect that was the OP's rationale. Normally, I grind things like this because they can be relevant for the patch they release in, especially if you play multiple jobs. The SB relics seem to only have a possess at the very end of the expansion. That just makes people more willing to wait for the subsequent nerfs that come than bother grinding.

Eureka had a lot of problems and I am shocked they took no feedback and just released the same thing they did the first time, except with nerf exp from fates and a challenge log. Overall it is a waste of space, it is not fun, I do not like the idea of hearing someone grinding since patch off four hours sleep because they want to rush a badly thought out grind. FFXI style of EXP simply cannot work in this game because in FFXI your not jaming buttons every 2 seconds while that 2 seconds is in downtime, other off global cooldowns.

I m really shocked they took no feedback from the first time, like level sync and the worry of the first zone being empty, so how do newer players climb to the current one? How did that let that oversight happen?