Eureka Character & Mob load

First off let me start by saying, I actually enjoy Eureka. I think it's nice alternative content than what we currently have!

However my main issue is the load. Or lack thereof.

Why oh why, do my party members become untargetable, when my screen is saturated by other players. My party surely should take priority loading? I've lost count of the amount of times I go to clutch heal, and suddenly they wink out of existence and are therefor untargetable. It's especially more irksome when you want to raise.

Again another issue I find is mob load. Why do other players NOT in my party, take precedence being loaded on my screen over mobs and fate NM's. Countless times literally having to stand on top of the NM or the mob, just to hug it and poke it.

Please SE is there not a way you can change priority order? Or something.... This is my only gripe about Eureka. What you want to kill and your party, should be visible and targetable AT ALL TIMES.....

It's actually really upsetting, as well as the fact skills like infuriate, flamethrower and barrel stabaliser that are enmity based seem to refuse to just not work if you arent high enough in the aggro chain I would realllly like to see Eureka get some much needed rendering changes.

It be nice if games let us chose priority. I have a pretty decent pc with graphic tablet but ive had to turn down everything for eureka. (Not helped ive move to a place with lower internet) but cause of this ive found randies have had priority load over the boss and my party members and seeing i mostly eureka as a scholar its annoying that i have to sometimes spam succor to be counted...

It be nice if i could set priorty 1 nm and mobs 3. Party members 3 dead randies 4 randies 5. Randie pets so then if its limited load it will priorty load 1 and 2

The priority for this game is pretty screwy. I'm pretty sure chocobo, pets, minions, and whatever else are higher on the list than what is actually more important unless they finally changed it

They haven't, minions loads while their masters don't

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I have no clue what SE was thinking with the way it prioritizes whats displayed and whats not.

It's simple --

Party > Monsters > other players -- that simple...

Maybe they don't have a priority scale, but the system simply loads what has the least amounts of data

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Originally Posted by Kogekigami

It be nice if games let us chose priority. I have a pretty decent pc with graphic tablet but ive had to turn down everything for eureka. (Not helped ive move to a place with lower internet) but cause of this ive found randies have had priority load over the boss and my party members and seeing i mostly eureka as a scholar its annoying that i have to sometimes spam succor to be counted...

It be nice if i could set priorty 1 nm and mobs 3. Party members 3 dead randies 4 randies 5. Randie pets so then if its limited load it will priorty load 1 and 2

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Yes. If they can't, at least giving us an option to do so would help. XI has an option within its in game configuration on how many people to draw/load. Back in the day, especially when wotg came out it was a godsend.

As it stands the best we can do is turn off outside effects, and limit party displayed effects. Which only helps with the lag. Not the load issue.

It's a server/netcode problem. Because the server has to tell every player what every other player in an area is doing, as you add players you create a non linear growth curve in server load. Ie: One group of 100 in one spot is more server load than two groups of 50 at opposite sides of the map, despite having the same number of players. Severely so, in fact. Every MMO has this problem at some level of concurrency (it's just an inherent reality of how concurrency works), but XIV's limit is low enough that we hit it a lot more often.

On top of that, the servers don't prioritize traffic. It'll lose track of half my party but is still sending combat log data on 90 other people who I don't need that data for at all. This could be significantly improved both by making Eureka instances have fewer people (the faster fix) and by reducing the traffic load between server and client, thus pushing the limit higher before gameplay is affected (the much harder but better fix).

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Originally Posted by Tridus

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I'm assuming they will be adding to Eureka with continuation of the relics. If this is the case they really need to sort this issue now, rather than later.

Like I said, even if they just give us an option to filter out the amount of players displayed.

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Originally Posted by Lollerblades

I'm assuming they will be adding to Eureka with continuation of the relics. If this is the case they really need to sort this issue now, rather than later.

Like I said, even if they just give us an option to filter out the amount of players displayed.

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Filtering the displayed ones on the client side would help framerates and such, but if the server can't keep up, that won't help. It needs to be a server side fix.

I agree with you entirely, it needs to be a priority. But it's been a problem since 2.0. Ixion still does it today on my server, although it's less severe than the Eureka train because there's fewer people there. It's not something that can be a quick fix given the code in question affects the entire game and any bug would be literally game breaking for affected clients.

I hope they make it a priority for 5.0, but I'd honestly be very surprised if anything happened before that except perhaps lowering the population cap.

I have a beefy computer, no lag issues even in a capped eureka instance. That being said, the priority in which the game loads mobs/people is ridiculous. I will sometimes run around in circles trying to just be able to target my party member who needs healed/rezzed, and I can't find them because the game decided that random person No. 23789273129 took priority over my dead party member.

I am getting fustrated by this too. I am also wondering if when under stress the game stops reading your settings because I have turned off battle effects except for me own yet they're still getting displayed and making FATEs impossible. The boss/NM hardly ever loads and thus doesnt show any AoE imprints on the ground in time to move away.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

Filtering the displayed ones on the client side would help framerates and such, but if the server can't keep up, that won't help. It needs to be a server side fix. I agree with you entirely, it needs to be a priority. But it's been a problem since 2.0. Ixion still does it today on my server, although it's less severe than the Eureka train because there's fewer people there. It's not something that can be a quick fix given the code in question affects the entire game and any bug would be literally game breaking for affected clients.

I hope they make it a priority for 5.0, but I'd honestly be very surprised if anything happened before that except perhaps lowering

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I fear you may be right. Even just an answer from a com rep or developer on the matter would be nice. I mean I'm still doing Eureka, it's just highly infuriating at times when I'm the only one up in a wiped party and can't target any of them, as outsiders are priority being loaded.