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  1. #1
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Eureka Character & Mob load

    First off let me start by saying, I actually enjoy Eureka. I think it's nice alternative content than what we currently have!

    However my main issue is the load. Or lack thereof.

    Why oh why, do my party members become untargetable, when my screen is saturated by other players. My party surely should take priority loading? I've lost count of the amount of times I go to clutch heal, and suddenly they wink out of existence and are therefor untargetable. It's especially more irksome when you want to raise.

    Again another issue I find is mob load. Why do other players NOT in my party, take precedence being loaded on my screen over mobs and fate NM's. Countless times literally having to stand on top of the NM or the mob, just to hug it and poke it.

    Please SE is there not a way you can change priority order? Or something.... This is my only gripe about Eureka. What you want to kill and your party, should be visible and targetable AT ALL TIMES.....
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    Crescents's Avatar
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    Kana Hisashi
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    It's actually really upsetting, as well as the fact skills like infuriate, flamethrower and barrel stabaliser that are enmity based seem to refuse to just not work if you arent high enough in the aggro chain I would realllly like to see Eureka get some much needed rendering changes.
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  3. #3
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    Kogekigami's Avatar
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    Lark Weaver
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    It be nice if games let us chose priority. I have a pretty decent pc with graphic tablet but ive had to turn down everything for eureka. (Not helped ive move to a place with lower internet) but cause of this ive found randies have had priority load over the boss and my party members and seeing i mostly eureka as a scholar its annoying that i have to sometimes spam succor to be counted...

    It be nice if i could set priorty 1 nm and mobs 3. Party members 3 dead randies 4 randies 5. Randie pets so then if its limited load it will priorty load 1 and 2
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    Sekkei's Avatar
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 70
    The priority for this game is pretty screwy. I'm pretty sure chocobo, pets, minions, and whatever else are higher on the list than what is actually more important unless they finally changed it
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  5. #5
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    They haven't, minions loads while their masters don't
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Agree,


    I have no clue what SE was thinking with the way it prioritizes whats displayed and whats not.

    It's simple --

    Party > Monsters > other players -- that simple...
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  7. #7
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Maybe they don't have a priority scale, but the system simply loads what has the least amounts of data
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  8. #8
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kogekigami View Post
    It be nice if games let us chose priority. I have a pretty decent pc with graphic tablet but ive had to turn down everything for eureka. (Not helped ive move to a place with lower internet) but cause of this ive found randies have had priority load over the boss and my party members and seeing i mostly eureka as a scholar its annoying that i have to sometimes spam succor to be counted...

    It be nice if i could set priorty 1 nm and mobs 3. Party members 3 dead randies 4 randies 5. Randie pets so then if its limited load it will priorty load 1 and 2
    Yes. If they can't, at least giving us an option to do so would help. XI has an option within its in game configuration on how many people to draw/load. Back in the day, especially when wotg came out it was a godsend.

    As it stands the best we can do is turn off outside effects, and limit party displayed effects. Which only helps with the lag. Not the load issue.
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  9. #9
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It's a server/netcode problem. Because the server has to tell every player what every other player in an area is doing, as you add players you create a non linear growth curve in server load. Ie: One group of 100 in one spot is more server load than two groups of 50 at opposite sides of the map, despite having the same number of players. Severely so, in fact. Every MMO has this problem at some level of concurrency (it's just an inherent reality of how concurrency works), but XIV's limit is low enough that we hit it a lot more often.

    On top of that, the servers don't prioritize traffic. It'll lose track of half my party but is still sending combat log data on 90 other people who I don't need that data for at all. This could be significantly improved both by making Eureka instances have fewer people (the faster fix) and by reducing the traffic load between server and client, thus pushing the limit higher before gameplay is affected (the much harder but better fix).
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  10. #10
    Player
    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
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    I'm assuming they will be adding to Eureka with continuation of the relics. If this is the case they really need to sort this issue now, rather than later.

    Like I said, even if they just give us an option to filter out the amount of players displayed.
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