Was going to go with tech support originally, but it's not really a technical issue per se. I usually play on a PS4 Pro on a 55 inch 4K TV. I have a desktop built specifically for FFXIV but haven't played much on it until today. The graphics are so much smoother and more crisp. The problem is, my monitor is a 32 inch, and everything is so smashed together. Lowering HUD size just makes the text nasty looking.
What size do you guys play on? I run dual monitors for school, 32/2x for research on one side typing on other. But I have a spare 42. I'm wondering if I should trade off the dual for the 42, or just buy a bigger one all together.
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03-05-2018, 03:36 PMSBC12PC Monitor Size
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03-05-2018, 03:52 PMValkyrie_Lenneth
I play on a 24 inch. How is everything smashed together on 32 lol. I just use 100% scaling in the options. Never had a problem.
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03-05-2018, 04:01 PMSBC12
I also play on 100%. I noticed it when the mining node screen overlaid the level bar for the node itself. That made me start looking, and I also noticed my right side cross bar for my CDs also overlaps the quests on screen. There's just not enough room on screen at 100% with a 32 inch.
Also, when I lowered it down to 80, it made the text nasty looking and scrunched up. -
03-05-2018, 04:05 PMKhanscott
I run 3x 27" monitors. Needless to say, learning to keep track of the mouse cursor takes as much skill as my rotations when I'm raiding. Generally speaking, I will always use IPS panels for gaming as TN panels make the red water come out of my eyes. IPS is super sharp and has good colors for the most part.
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03-05-2018, 04:08 PMSBC12I wouldn't even attempt to try and maintain concentration on 3 monitors at once. But I don't care for explanations on color or anything. The size is what I am wondering about. I feel there isn't enough room on screen for a 32. Everything overlaps each other. Is this something you guys just have become used to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Khanscott
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03-05-2018, 04:16 PMValkyrie_Lenneth
You can move them. Just adjust your hud. I have my hotbars at 80%, because they don't need to be big.
Screen size doesn't matter, a 1080p display will have the same amount of "room" at 16 inches and at 55 inches. You are used to playing on a 4k monitor, you have 4x the screen space on that VS 1080p. -
03-05-2018, 04:29 PMSBC1280% actually made everything fit nicely, but most of the text is just super washed out and nasty looking now. I guess I'll either have to get another 4k or get used to it.Quote:
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03-05-2018, 04:38 PMKhanscottIt depends on how far you sit from the monitor. From my desk, 27" is perfect. The rest is HUD adjustment, ala what Lenneth said. However, if things are blurry you may need to mess with the monitor settings. Could be the game, could be the panel, could be the driver settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBC12
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03-05-2018, 04:41 PMhynaku
I play on a 40" 4k monitor.
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03-05-2018, 05:09 PMPandaMonium
Playing on 24'' ISP for years, including raiding and such. I was playing a bit on a 27" but it felt like everything is too big with 100%UI or has too much space that I don't pay attention at on the sides with the 80%UI size. So I keep 27" for work only :)
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03-05-2018, 06:15 PMSebazyA little more detail would help here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBC12
Native resolution is the big factor here, not screen size. Using a 32" TV with 1080p output but a native panel resolution of 720p will give drastically inferior results to a proper 2560x1440 display and will result in the blurry interlaced text you are experiencing.
If your 32" display is actually a repurposed TV, get shot of it and get a proper monitor on the go. As mentioned by many, QHD (2560x1440) is the sweet spot for most.
Personally I use a 34" ultra wide alongside a 27" in portrait with the secondary display bi-wired to both the PC and Mac. -
03-05-2018, 06:27 PMSBC121366 is the only resolution I can run where it doesn't look like crap. I guess that's where the problem lies. I'm used to console where all of this is done for me. I did about an hour worth of moving around the HUD since it wants to push everything towards the center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sebazy
These replies are not what I expected. Such small monitors...which does make sense to me considering how close you are to it. I like to lean back into the chair and play with a controller due to shoulder and wrist injuries (thanks Army), so I'm probably a good 5-6 feet away from my screen. -
03-05-2018, 06:28 PMSebazy
1366x768?
Yeah that's a TV. Get a proper monitor and things will be significantly better. -
03-05-2018, 07:10 PMSBC12This isn't sarcasm, but how would a smaller monitor provide better resolution?Quote:
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Or even the same size for that matter? -
03-05-2018, 07:14 PMHikki_
27" TN screen... But it doesn't matter ^^
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03-05-2018, 07:16 PMKhanscottIt's not the size, its the resolution of the panel. Minor technicalities aside, monitors and flatscreen TVs are essentially the same nowadays. Basically, if it has a slot for the video cable, it will display the the image. You would want a... well, anything that has a resolution of at least 1920x1080. Although TVs tend to come more so in 4k nowadays than not. Either way will easily fix the blurriness of UI.Quote:
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03-05-2018, 07:25 PMSBC12I set it to that resolution and it was terrible. Extremely bloated and fuzzy =\Quote:
Originally Posted by Khanscott
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03-05-2018, 07:58 PMSebazyBecause your 32” TV likely has a native panel resolution of 1366x768 or thereabouts. Thus why 1920x1080 looks bad, because the TV doesn’t have the resolution to display that natively. Instead you’re getting an interlaced image, thus horrible text. Until you go high end, many TVs (4k included) make poor monitors due to a lack of 4:4:4 chroma and resolution differences, as well as any undefeatable picture processing that will also play havoc with things.Quote:
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A 27” 1440p monitor will blow your 32” TV away for clarity because it has enough raw pixels on the screen to do a 1:1 display without interlacing or tonemapping meddling with your picture. -
03-05-2018, 08:06 PMTridusResolution has nothing to do with screen size. Resolution is how many pixels are in the display. My phone has higher resolution than your 32" display, and that's less than 6".Quote:
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I game on a 28" 4k monitor. The resolution on that is 3,840x2,160, and if your PS4 Pro is hooked up to a 4k TV, that is what you're used to getting. Dropping down to a small fraction of that is going to look awful and cramped. It doesn't matter how big the screen itself is, if it's 1366x768, it just can't fit very much stuff and also look crisp. A bigger screen just means each individual pixel is bigger.
You need to base your screen size on how far away from the display you plan to sit, as bigger = farther away comfortably. But for resolution, you just flat out need one that has more. The game looks great at 4k on PC with the UI size at 150%. -
03-05-2018, 08:15 PMPandaMonium
I was checking some monitors for myself recently, thinking about getting something newer than my 5 years old 1080p Samsung (which is still good enough, but you know...) and the details I'm paying attention are: ISP (I'm working in graphic and do think that ISP is better in colors than TN), 1440p, QHD.
I personally don't think you should use a TV monitor when playing on a PC in case you can afford a proper PC monitor and will play using a standard distance from it (about 2 feet). But it's your call really :) -
03-05-2018, 08:18 PMSBC12
Ok the pixels on screen for resolution actually makes sense to me. But ya my PS4 is hooked to a 4K, so it's that large resolution I'm used to. I'll have to look into getting an actual monitor that's worth something.
But like I said, I have to lean back into the chair due to injuries, so I don't know if the 20s would cut it for me. -
03-05-2018, 08:55 PMViertStil
I am using a 29" ultrawide monitor and play with 2560x1080 resolution. Able to place the HUD with less obstacle in the middle of the screen.
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03-05-2018, 09:37 PMSebazyYou can get true 1080p 32” monitors quite cheaply, I don’t especially rate them but if you are leaning back then a 4K display is likely going to be a waste unless you go huge. Personally I’d recommend a 32” 1440p and a good monitor arm for the easiest all round solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBC12
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03-06-2018, 12:32 AMMalzian
The general rule I tend to use when deciding on a monitor size is 1' away for every 7" on the diagonal. You can adjust this for your own preference, but I tend to find that this ratio gives the optimal viewing area.
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03-06-2018, 02:14 AMenthauptet
FYI the game text scaling is utter shite and is not actual text scaling it is like pre-rendered. (this is why the chat box looks good, it is actually rendered text) That is why it looks like garbage at certain % of the size adjustment options.
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03-06-2018, 02:26 AMYeol
Used to play on 85-inch (1080p) TV, now i'm playing on 34-inch UltraWide (3440 x 1440) monitor. Never going back to TV.
Screen Mode: Borderless Windowed
High Resolution UI Settings: 150% (Full HD) - 1750x984 or higher
Default UI Size: 100%
With these selections, use HUD Layout to change the size of elements/bars on your screen. I also changed chat log text size to 24 for all.