Duty Joining.

For crying out loud, 'fix' this godd***** necessity to switch to a class you queued up for a duty with. I just lost a duty because I entered into a battle as a tank just as the queue popped and I did not finish the battle until there were only three seconds left on it. And I couldn't change class!

I lost half an hour of waiting (queued as a samurai) just because the stupid game needs me to manually switch, which cannot be done in many situations that players tend to be in when waiting for it to pop in the first place when waiting.

And why?! Because the developers don't care to auto-change?! I can be in the middle of a fight when accepting the queue. I can be in the middle of playing triple triad. In the middle of shopping, using retainers...anything. But if I'm on the right class. Because, for some stupid reason, the game doesn't even attempt to do the switching.


I suggest the game try and put on the top-most gear-set from the list for the respective class. If it can, great. It will put you in the duty and, when switching out, ideally switch back to the original, but that's not necessary. I prefer to die than lose half an hour of waiting for a duty, and if I don't want to die, I can still ignore the pop-up like I'm FORCED to do right now. If it cannot be done due to inventory issues (often being a bug, but whatever)?! Then just return an error. No job switching, no nothing. Simple. Then players don't have to waste time only for the sake of avoiding to waste even MORE time.


And no, I could not avoid it by not entering a fight with low queue. It popped straight from 5. When I once sat at 2 for 15 minutes, 5 is way too much to depend on.

You could have ran from the fight. I've seen people 'complain' about this, when they could have just ran from the fight, and queue'd with no problem at all.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bacent

You could have ran from the fight. I've seen people 'complain' about this, when they could have just ran from the fight, and queue'd with no problem at all.

---

I tried, and I regret it, cause I'd have few seconds spare otherwise. Running is not always an option.

EDIT: Now that I have a bit more time, sometimes running is not really possible or likely, for whatever reason. There may be many mobs around, the terrain may be restricting, the mobs may chase for some distance. And when they "drop", you still cannot change class until THEY get back to their spot and for few seconds after (just like how I was locked out after killing the mob this time around too).

And, besides, why should players, especially DPS which are already hurt by the queues, get hurt even more by it when a system change would remove the issue entirely?! There is no reason why the system shouldn't work like that. It is one of these quality of life changes that should be welcomed by every player out there, and I can think of no detriment to it.


I know that I can run, and when possible, I will. I know that it sucks to change class if I'll start the battle already, so if the queue is low, I will not enter one in the first place. I prefer to spend those extra 3-5 minutes doing something that I can cancel at any time/do with the class I queue with. However, sometimes neither is an option, and then it's back to the queue again.

Run the moment it pops then? More than ample time.

So let me get this straight?You decided to spend your 40 seconds you had to kill a monster instead of walking away hitting the accept button.You've just made those other 7 people wait longer in df and somehow you're the victim?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Metalwrath

So let me get this straight?You decided to spend your 40 seconds you had to kill a monster instead of walking away hitting the accept button.You've just made those other 7 people wait longer in df and somehow you're the victim?

---

No. I tried to run, but the mob did not want to 'latch off' by the time I reached a spot I could run no further...cause you know, terrain and stuff. I can't just take a mount and fly away in battle.

And I'm not talking victims or anything. I am (though yes, at the time I did write the original post I was quite irked) posting this as a suggestion for a very useful quality of life update that would affect almost every person in the game, unlike the quality of life updates that they give which mostly affect small groups of people.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by kikix12

No. I tried to run, but the mob did not want to 'latch off' by the time I reached a spot I could run no further...cause you know, terrain and stuff. I can't just take a mount and fly away in battle.

And I'm not talking victims or anything. I am (though yes, at the time I did write the original post I was quite irked) posting this as a suggestion for a very useful quality of life update that would affect almost every person in the game, unlike the quality of life updates that they give which mostly affect small groups of people.

---

I also get annoyed when you’re doing sidequests or beast tribes and your queue pops...but at the same time, you have 40 seconds to disengage, switch, and accept. I just try to keep an eye out on the queue number (even though in-progress can make it pop before you ever reach the top) and refrain from doing much when I’m around #4 or so.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I also get annoyed when you’re doing sidequests or beast tribes and your queue pops...but at the same time, you have 40 seconds to disengage, switch, and accept. I just try to keep an eye out on the queue number (even though in-progress can make it pop before you ever reach the top) and refrain from doing much when I’m around #4 or so.

---

Same...but as I said, it did enter #5 at the time. I expected to be able to finish one battle on time, and if not for trying to run, I would. In the last seconds, but hey.

I had the queue pop at 8 and once even at some number over 10. 12 or 14 or something like that. As a DPS, solo. That was when the queue popped in about a minute, shortly after the queue numbers were even retrieved, for leveling roulette (and was "under 5min"), so I guess it was just that super-rare perfect timing. But hey, it happens.

Hence why this post. I know that I did make use of it to vent on the side as well, since the queue popped exactly when I entered the combat and class switching became unlocked literally when the queue closed, but that doesn't mean it's all about that.

this is why when I am in queue, I just dont do anything, especially if its a queue shorter than 15m. Just stand there, play a phone app or something then click accept when it pops.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Canopia

this is why when I am in queue, I just dont do anything, especially if its a queue shorter than 15m.

---

Same here. Queue pops always like to happen when it's most inconvenient for you as you do something else while waiting.

I wish they'd do this too. I more often than not find myself in the middle of a gathering node or in a fight and have to try and get done fast enough.

On the same note, why can't the darn thing just switch crafting classes without having to close the crafting log every time you need to do a recipe on a different job? That gets super frustrating when crafting higher level stuff where it takes several classes to make all the components.

I try to keep my activities to a minimum when I queue as a dps. I don't do levequests or anything that might "lock me in" until its done. If I'm crafting, I make sure its something I can use quick synthesis or an easy craft. If I'm sidequesting, I avoid the multi-arc ones (they usually have cutscenes and whatnot.)

The shorter my queue, the less I do.

EDIT: I mean ideally, yes it'd be nice if the game had a feature that auto-switched you once you click yes. I'm definitely not against such an idea and I would welcome it with open arms. But until then, I'd rather take cautionary steps to avoid losing my spot.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Driskus

On the same note, why can't the darn thing just switch crafting classes without having to close the crafting log every time you need to do a recipe on a different job? That gets super frustrating when crafting higher level stuff where it takes several classes to make all the components.

---

The most logical reason: the crafting "station". You can't very well cook on a Leatherworking table now can you? :p Also it takes only a few seconds tops to close the log, change classes, and bring it back up. If that annoys you I hate to see what something that takes several seconds does o.o

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Joe777

Same here. Queue pops always like to happen when it's most inconvenient for you as you do something else while waiting.

---

When I would run as DPS, I would sometimes hop into a FATE to 'make' the queue pop :p For some odd reason, the queue pops up when you don't want it to (doorbell, phone rings, engage a mob, etc.)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gemina

When I would run as DPS, I would sometimes hop into a FATE to 'make' the queue pop :p For some odd reason, the queue pops up when you don't want it to (doorbell, phone rings, engage a mob, etc.)

---

I try to make a cup of tea.... Never fails :p

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gemina

For some odd reason, the queue pops up when you don't want it to (doorbell, phone rings, engage a mob, etc.)

---

Precisely, and always :p

Queue Popped when crafting is kinda worse than your caes,OP.

Like another poster said on another "problem", this is a lot of hot air over a non-issue.

Anyone ever go to the Kitchen to make something and count to around 40 seconds while you're making whatever and then go back and check if queue popped and repeat? :3

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ErryK

Like another poster said on another "problem", this is a lot of hot air over a non-issue.

---

If wasting a lot of time, either doing nothing or risking the auto-withdrawal if you won't make it in time, is a non-issue to you, then I'm not sure I share your definition of an "issue" is. Especially since the time it takes for you to finish whatever you are doing is wasting further time for those waiting on you, even if you WILL manage to finish on time.

It is something that have workarounds, yes. But so did glamour all this time, so do the past mounts that didn't have flying, so did the timer on chocobo companion being called, the colorblind mode for astral fire/umbral ice, even the extra inventory. All of these are more "quality of life" updates that could be bypassed by one way or another. You could use the old glamour system repeatedly using prisms, one for each type of clothing, instead of using a unified prism for anything or using the new glamour. You could use a different mount that could fly in places where it is available. You could have opened the companions screen to see the time left. You could remember the last action you used thus keeping track of what you actually have on as a black mage. And, last but not least, you could continue maintaining your inventory by getting rid of useless trash or selling what of it can be sold, using market board to buy the crafting items as need arises instead.

And all of these were dealt with because they could help. Because there was no reason not to implement them. Some were smaller, some were larger updates. Some will never affect majority of the players (chocobo companions aren't as widely used, most people are not color blind and even some of those won't ever use black mage, there are players that don't even care about glamour, or even if they do, it's just setting on one every few months, and there are players that have LOADS of inventory space open cause they don't care about crafting and glamour, the two major space-takers).

So yes, it's not a game-breaking issue, but it IS an issue. And updating this system will help making the gaming experience feel smoother.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Joe777

The most logical reason: the crafting "station". You can't very well cook on a Leatherworking table now can you? :p Also it takes only a few seconds tops to close the log, change classes, and bring it back up. If that annoys you I hate to see what something that takes several seconds does o.o

---

And yet when I can cook my gear in a frying pan real quick to repair it. :p

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Canopia

this is why when I am in queue, I just dont do anything, especially if its a queue shorter than 15m. Just stand there, play a phone app or something then click accept when it pops.

---

Same here except I usually pop onto the forums.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Canopia

this is why when I am in queue, I just dont do anything, especially if its a queue shorter than 15m. Just stand there, play a phone app or something then click accept when it pops.

---

This. Even if it says 20m i just watch netflix or something, or just craft easy stuff since I've sometimes had long queues pop faster.

Sure it may be an issue but at the same time, you choose to enter a fight you couldnt easily run from. *shrugs* It is what it is.