Haurchefant’s Gravesite?

Hoping this doesn’t get washed out by all the end-maintenance threads, but does anyone know what Haurchefant’s gravestone in Coerthas Central Highlands says? I know it says his name, Haurchefant Greystone, but I can’t make out the three or four words below it. I’ve checked cutscenes, the site itself, looked out his popular quotes, and I can’t find any info. Please help!

Edit: I DEEPLY apologize if I managed to spoiler anyone with my previous title, it was not my intent at all and honestly did not cross my mind when typing it up. Ruining such a moment for a new player is one of my least favorite things to do, especially by accident, so I'm sorry.

Spoilers!!! I know it’s “old” content by now but it’s still not a good thing to put in the title on the general discussion forum. :(

That said, I also tried to read it but can’t make it out.

While I cannot answer your question (sorry about that :< ) I will say that the title of your thread is extremely spoilery for anyone who hasn't gone through Heavensward yet and should probably be changed if at all possible ><

I'm in an instance right now, but doesn't it have Greystone on it?

I’m sorry, I have no idea how to edit the thread

Can you delete it and start over maybe?

Or a moderator might be able to edit the title for you?

I can't find that option, either orz

EDIT: I found it through advanced settings and corrected it.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Can you delete it and start over maybe?

Or a moderator might be able to edit the title for you?

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Really? This upset over a thread title?

Does it just say his 1st name and then something else? Or does it look like it's supposed to be his last name? Where's Ethys or Annonymouse when you need em?

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Really? This upset over a thread title?

Does it just say his 1st name and then something else? Or does it look like it's supposed to be his last name? Where's Ethys or Annonymouse when you need em?

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Don't worry about it, I understand the frustration if someone where to get spoiled because I didn't put any thought into the title of my thread, and that is my fault.
From what is legible, we can see his name: 'Haurchefant Greystone'. However, there is more underneath that.

There's no way to edit the title of the thread.

That being said this isn't that big of a deal, the op will probably get their answer soon and then the thread will probably get washed off the first page anyway :P
On topic however, I never even noticed it said anything at all beyond his name. I've been there once and didnt pay that much attention. It's quite possible that it doesn't actually say anything underneath and they merely put scribble to make it resemble words. Or it could be written in another eorzean language.

Or its so badly textured like some other things in this game that no one will ever truly be able to make out what it says.

Edit: I've tried to find screenshots and it seems the closer the camera gets to it, the harder it is to read -_- seems like a textural issue beyond anything else. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150703022248

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Originally Posted by Cinno

There's no way to edit the title of the thread.

That being said this isn't that big of a deal, the op will probably get their answer soon and then the thread will probably get washed off the first page anyway :P
On topic however, I never even noticed it said anything at all. I've been there once and didnt pay that much attention. It's quite possible that it doesnt say anything underneath and they merely put scribble to make it resemble words. Or it could be written in another language.

Or its so badly textured like some other things in this game that no one will ever truly be able to make out what it says. who knows. :D

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AUUUGH! I'm trying to DRAW the gravestone and it's killing me that I have no idea what is says!!

Just go with his motto.

"A knight lives to serve. To protect. To sacrifice. There is no greater calling..."

Have fun. ^_^b

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Just go with his motto.

"A knight lives to serve. To protect. To sacrifice. There is no greater calling..."

Have fun. ^_^b

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I'd prefer to be as accurate as possible when it comes to fanart. It is a 5-6 worded sentence. orz

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Originally Posted by OkitaSouji

I can't find that option, either orz

EDIT: I found it through advanced settings and corrected it.

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Good effort, but even though you flagged it as spoilers, "memorial" still gives away the same plot point, right in the title. You just made sure that anyone who wasn't sure before, now knows it's a spoiler. Might I suggest something like '[Spoilers] Gravestone Text in Coerthas.' I'm sure anyone who has finished that part of MSQ will know which grave you are talking about.

On topic, it says nothing in English. All of the text that appears on signs/posters/etc. in the game is in some sort of weird runic alphabet. Idk if it's gibberish or if SE went to the effort of making an actual written language for Eorzean (doubtful) but it's possible it might be some sort of code. My money is on gibberish though. Just try to copy the symbols as best you can.

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Originally Posted by Rymm

Good effort, but even though you flagged it as spoilers, "memorial" still gives away the same plot point, right in the title. You just made sure that anyone who wasn't sure before, now knows it's a spoiler. Might I suggest something like '[Spoilers] Gravestone Text in Coerthas.' I'm sure anyone who has finished that part of MSQ will know which grave you are talking about.

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To be honest, at that point, once someone sees (SPOILER), they should probably stop reading...But I'll edit it again.

Well, seeing as we are discussing it now...

Who else has gone back there and got the short scene with Francel? And also if you go back and talk to him at his house near the Locks.

The last four words are: Forever yours, Violet Fire (my toons name)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Well, seeing as we are discussing it now...

Who else has gone back there and got the short scene with Francel? And also if you go back and talk to him at his house near the Locks.

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Seeing as he pops up every time you walk within the area, I'm sure anyone who has visited the site has seen him, lol.

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Originally Posted by PaalHenrik

The last four words are: Forever yours, Violet Fire (my toons name)

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Wha? What you said does not look like what is on the stone, lol. And how would they incorporate your character name onto it? I don't think that's right. The first word looks to be about only 5 letters, anyway.

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Originally Posted by OkitaSouji

Wha? What you said does not look like what is on the stone, lol. And how would they incorporate your character name onto it? I don't think that's right. The first word looks to be about only 5 letters, anyway.

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She was being sarcastic. And since you seemed to miss it-

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Originally Posted by Rymm

On topic, it says nothing in English. All of the text that appears on signs/posters/etc. in the game is in some sort of weird runic alphabet. Idk if it's gibberish or if SE went to the effort of making an actual written language for Eorzean (doubtful) but it's possible it might be some sort of code. My money is on gibberish though. Just try to copy the symbols as best you can.

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Originally Posted by OkitaSouji

Seeing as he pops up every time you walk within the area, I'm sure anyone who has visited the site has seen him, lol.

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Always possible that people haven't realised it's accessible. I mentioned it to my FC and not everyone had seen it.

It's also worth talking to people around Camp Dragonhead - quite a few have relevant dialogue after Hauchefant dies, and then it changes again after you pass Heavensward's credits.

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Originally Posted by Rymm

On topic, it says nothing in English. All of the text that appears on signs/posters/etc. in the game is in some sort of weird runic alphabet. Idk if it's gibberish or if SE went to the effort of making an actual written language for Eorzean (doubtful) but it's possible it might be some sort of code. My money is on gibberish though. Just try to copy the symbols as best you can.

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I'm not sure about *every* sign in the game, but the vast majority are readable. It's 90% English letters with a few reversed letters and odd shapes (eg. the "HQ" item symbol is actually an Eorzean 'S'). You can decipher it by looking at the maps and comparing the symbols to what you know the label should say.

My only other thought is that a Lalafell player might be able to get a closer look at the gravestone in first-person view.

I can follow up with what Iscah said, its definitely a version of english. Though its hard to read, most of the stuff in the game can be deciphered into what it says in english. The letters, although yeah they do look 'runic' to some degree, they are english letters, and can be deciphered. In this case however the texture is the root cause of the issues.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

My only other thought is that a Lalafell player might be able to get a closer look at the gravestone in first-person view.

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I hate to shoot this down, but.. due to how bad the textures are on the grave stone, the closer you get, the worse it looks and the harder it is to read.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150703022248

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Originally Posted by Cinno

Edit: I've tried to find screenshots and it seems the closer the camera gets to it, the harder it is to read -_- seems like a textural issue beyond anything else.

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I think it might be that the text is too fuzzy to read, but from a distance it just looks like it's fuzzy because you're standing too far away to read it.

Seems disappointing from a design level, unless they really *couldn't* make it display at any better resolution than that. A better readable version for the closeup in the cutscene would have been a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Rymm

On topic, it says nothing in English. All of the text that appears on signs/posters/etc. in the game is in some sort of weird runic alphabet. Idk if it's gibberish or if SE went to the effort of making an actual written language for Eorzean (doubtful) but it's possible it might be some sort of code. My money is on gibberish though. Just try to copy the symbols as best you can.

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It's a runic alphabet, but it transcribes directly to the modern English alphabet. Some of the in-game texts do appear to be non-English or gibberish, yes. But, these are mostly in ruins or things like the Demon Book. Signs in the civilized parts of Eorzea can be read as English when they are legible enough. Given that this tombstone was written by Ishgardians and is very recent, we should be able to read it if anyone can make out the letters.

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Originally Posted by Pells

It's a runic alphabet, but it transcribes directly to the modern English alphabet. Some of the in-game texts do appear to be non-English or gibberish, yes. But, these are mostly in ruins or things like the Demon Book. Signs in the civilized parts of Eorzea can be read as English when they are legible enough. Given that this tombstone was written by Ishgardians and is very recent, we should be able to read it if anyone can make out the letters.

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Whoops, I’ve been so distracted I forgot to check on this thread, but yeah, the Eorzean alphabet is literally English with a different style of stroke in writing. The most obvious example is “NO ENTRY” seen on a lot of blocked-off doors, and the Gold Saucer posters

I would take a crack out it.. but can't log into the game at the moment. But looking at the image on gamerescape, and then looking at the runin alphabet: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Alphabet

Lots of lowercase letters with the long stem are used.

https://i.gyazo.com/6fb2dc4ba1feec5e...18b947bd52.png
https://i.gyazo.com/064762e1604d7457...87c42e30f2.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/06f4fa3d4d41a7db...108aa8647b.png

Sadly, the texture is really too low to make it out. Got close using /gpose. The sideview looks the clearest, but still hard to read, if at all.

That's not too bad to make a start on... up to a point, after which I'm stumped again.

Third line:
- first letter seems to be a capital "L"
- second word starts with "r" (no other tailed letters curl that way)
- alternately the second word, first letter isn't readable, but the second letter is "c"
- both words end in "g" (or possibly "c", but that's unlikely)

Fourth line:
- if the two lines are a single phrase and the first letter is lowercase, then it must be "b", "d" or "h" because they're the only 'tall' letters. The word could be "his" or "him".
- no other tailed or tall letters, leaving a choice of: a, e, i, l, m, n, o, s, u, v, w, x, z
- is that the word (not letter) "a" in the middle?


It's so annoying. Clearly it's been made, at a game level, especially for this - so surely they wouldn't have put gibberish on it when every street sign in the game is legible if you look at it closely enough.

Third line:
The first word might be "Living".
The second word also looks like it ends in "ing". I agree that's an "r" at the front, but I'm not sure it's the first letter.

My best guess at the fourth line is "Died in honor".

you all trying to get in close, might try turning off the texture depth. It might look a bit more legible that way'

I've tried manipulating the texture levels the best I could in PSP X9... The first word in line one is his name. Line 2 is hard to decipher. The word "Living"(Loving is another candidate however) is the most readily obvious word in line 3, along with the r and the g in the next word. The words in the remaining line are far too distorted.

So I just got back from the 30th Anniversary FF exhibition in Roppongi. In the FFXIV section they had a little memorial to our dear fallen friend, including a replica of his grave.

I present to you, the words you have all been searching for...

http://i66.tinypic.com/16jfnsl.jpg

Haurchefant
Greystone

Until then,
my friend

Well, it looks a bit different to the in game image, but maybe this is what they intended it to say and it just came out a hot mess?

...If anyone needs me, I'll just be over there crying about this for the next few days...

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Originally Posted by Lukha

...If anyone needs me, I'll just be over there crying about this for the next few days...

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*hugs*

:_____;


Well, the text isn't what's on the in-game version, but it's probably the most canon answer we're going to get.


I was thinking earlier today though - it's practically a cruel joke (and/or a spoiler hidden in plain sight) that his surname is very nearly "Gravestone"....


I've also been thinking about it because I've been doing the Heavensward machinist quests, and that story never did tie back to the MSQ but I felt like it should have. Stephanivien would have known Haurchefant, and I feel like they probably would have gotten along well. (Though I guess ultimately it would have been too hard to bring it up when the player could be doing the job quest a long time apart from the intended-to-be-concurrent MSQ events.)