Eureka confirmed for 4.25 - Anyone else disappointing its delayed again?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The Forbidden Land of Eureka - Anemos
We're planning to introduce this in Patch 4.25. This content will be a series, and will be released as we continue through the patches. We would like for players to enjoy this content with many players, and there are some leveling aspects here. We're planning to have players strengthen their weapons and gear inside Eureka. Within Eureka, players will encounter strong monsters, such as Notorious Monsters (NMs). We should be able to show more information in the next Letter from the Producer LIVE set for our visit to Sapporo.

We'll be implementing a new system we haven’t had before, so please look forward to the updates!

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While it nice that we have a confirmed patch for it now but I'm really disappointed that they delay it once again, for another what 4-6 weeks?

Are you?

No, there is a lot of stuff to do at 4.2 release.

No reason for them to release it right at the start of the new omega raid and tomes. It would only distract players.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

No reason for them to release it right at the start of the new omega raid and tomes. It would only distract players.

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But what about rest of us who don't really raid savage? Tomes is restricted to expert roulette anyway so how is that any new from how we grind it today.

MSQ is nice, but that will not last us a month.
PVP don't interest that many people.

I don't know man, feels like they still cater to the smaller population instead of drop content that been requested since 4.0 and it keep getting pushed back?

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

But what about rest of us who don't really raid savage?

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Honestly no idea. I guess they expect us to do our dailies yet again. I pretty much stop expecting them to make any sense, honestly.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Honestly no idea. I guess they expect us to do our dailies yet again. I pretty much stop expecting them to make any sense, honestly.

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I love this game, i really do but I can't find any reason to even login anymore. I have leveled almost every to 70 (got like 3 or 4 classes left and it just meh), I don't raid.

All i login every other day is just send out my airships. I would probably cancel my sub if I could but i have like 5 months of prepaid sub..

Eureka was something that could motivate me to login again daily but seeing it likely delayed to late feb is very disappointing.

Yes i"m very disapointed too. I have waited for eureka since the annoucement, hoping inside for raid at 4 people and they prefer add duty recorder and new bard performance instead of eureka

Sorry for my english

Yeah, definitely. Another new set of dailies is not overly exciting as a reason to keep playing regularly.

Again? The delay to 4.25 was mentioned a month or two ago, iirc. I vaguely recall YoshiP saying that Eureka would come during the 4.2 cycle, but probably not during 4.2 itself since they needed a little more time still.

Also: Relic lines have traditionally updated during X.y5 patches, to my reckoning, with few exceptions. While I'd have loved to have my relics (yes plural) by now since 4.15, I've learned to live with disappointment. My question, though, is if we'll be doing 4-5 steps at once now, or if we're starting off the bat with one big step for weapon and armor that will take any sane person a month and a half to complete? We'll see when it comes.

Still funny that we were told we were only getting 1 dungeon per odd patch for things like Eureka only for Eureka to nearly be delayed until 4.3 at this point. 4.1 was a pretty big ghost town since most of the patch's contents aside from Eureka was delayed too. Not that I'm super passionate about expert dungeons to run over and over again, but you get my point.

Well, maybe if they stopped putting so much damn focus on PVP we might have real content on a regular basis...

Please look forward to the delays.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

But what about rest of us who don't really raid savage? Tomes is restricted to expert roulette anyway so how is that any new from how we grind it today.

MSQ is nice, but that will not last us a month.
PVP don't interest that many people.

I don't know man, feels like they still cater to the smaller population instead of drop content that been requested since 4.0 and it keep getting pushed back?

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I don't want to be that guy but savage is the only place that relics, let alone gear, is necessary at all. If you don't do savage then upgrading your stuff is quite meaningless as you don't have anything to put your upgrades against. Imo, if you're not using the gear for savage you're grinding it for glamour. Which there's nothing wrong with that. What I'm saying is, is that if you don't raid, then it doesn't really matter when they release the content since the item levels have no virtual usage. The item level is for bigger show than the glamour is, if you don't raid. But that's my opinion and I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Aster_E

Relic lines have traditionally updated during X.y5 patches, to my reckoning, with few exceptions. While I'd have loved to have my relics (yes plural) by now since 4.15, I've learned to live with disappointment. My question, though, is if we'll be doing 4-5 steps at once now, or if we're starting off the bat with one big step for weapon and armor that will take any sane person a month and a half to complete? We'll see when it comes.

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You are correct it usually x.5 patches but since it was delayed from 4.15 (which i feel should been the reasonable patch to put it in) I thought they would had aimed to give it to us on 4.2. Maybe i'm alone with this but feels like they keep letting down the loyal players and it feels a little like a slap in the face and be like "Please look forward to it! -Yoshi"

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I don't want to be that guy but savage is the only place that relics, let alone gear, is necessary at all. If you don't do savage then upgrading your stuff is quite meaningless as you don't have anything to put your upgrades against. Imo, if you're not using the gear for savage you're grinding it for glamour. Which there's nothing wrong with that. What I'm saying is, is that if you don't raid, then it doesn't really matter when they release the content since the item levels have no virtual usage. The item level is for bigger show than the glamour is, if you don't raid. But that's my opinion and I could be wrong.

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Even If I don't raid the top tier savage don't mean i want to try keep my iLevel highest possible to my ability.
I don't raid cause it doesn't interest me but that doesn't mean i enjoy grinding for relic weapons. Give me something to do

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

I don't raid cause it doesn't interest me but that doesn't mean i enjoy grinding for relic weapons. Give me something to do

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So basically you're complaining that you have nothing to do because they pushed back something you don't enjoy and aren't interested in doing anything else?

I don't see the problem. 4.25 will come 5 weeks after 4.2. It is not much time.

Just let them take their time and put out something good.

What happened to Deep dungeon though? How is that we still havn't got that or a update on what they planing.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

So basically you're complaining that you have nothing to do because they pushed back something you don't enjoy and aren't interested in doing anything else?

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Where did I say I dont find enjoyment in building a relic? My complaint is they keep delaying Eureka and SB relics and it's getting tiresome they keep cater to small majorities in this game instead of the bigger mass.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius

Just let them take their time and put out something good.

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Good eh? We thought Diadem was going to be good. We know what happened to that.

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Originally Posted by Xlantaa

I don't see the problem. 4.25 will come 5 weeks after 4.2. It is not much time.

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Do we even know a date? Seeing how it been delayed so many times already what say it wont be pushed to 4.3? 4.35? scrap it?

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

I don't know man, feels like they still cater to the smaller population instead of drop content that been requested since 4.0 and it keep getting pushed back?

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I'm not trying to be mean, but as a PvPer in this game, that statement is so laughably untrue.

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Originally Posted by Rosalynd

Well, maybe if they stopped putting so much damn focus on PVP we might have real content on a regular basis...

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History lesson time:

Wolves Den (Arena PvP)
Introduced: 2.1
Updated (to the Feast): 3.25
Removed (as the Wolves' Den, the Feast remains): 4.0

Frontlines
Introduced: 2.3, as The Borderland Ruins (Secure)
The Borderland Ruins (Slaughter): 2.5
Seal Rock (Seize): 3.1
The Fields of Glory (Shatter): 3.3
Updated: 4.0 (until then, Secure and Slaughter sat dead at level 50, still only offering level 50 rewards as well. Slaughter was unceremoniously removed with no explanation.)

Now, tell me which one has gotten regular, frequent updates to both content and rewards, as well as (fairly) timely support of player issues and concerns; PvE or PvP?

They're only FINALLY starting to make actual efforts with PvP lately, however questionable those might be. Find another scapegoat for your dissatisfaction.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

Where did I say I dont find enjoyment in building a relic?

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Right about here.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

I don't raid cause it doesn't interest me but that doesn't mean i enjoy grinding for relic weapons.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

I don't raid cause it doesn't interest me but that doesn't mean i enjoy grinding for relic weapons.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

but that doesn't mean i enjoy grinding for relic weapons.

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Gear is the only form of vertical progression in this game beyond leveling your character to max level. It's important that everyone can improve their characters at max level, so Square Enix gives layers of gear to satisfy that quintessential hallmark of an MMO.

Casual's item level is not going to be raider's end game, and raider's item level is not going to be casual's end game. Everyone has a different end game in this game relative to what they want to do.

To deny vertical progression for casuals is to deny progressing their jobs at level 70. That would kill the game because any feeling of meaningfulness improvement would be given to raiders, and that'd be unequivocally unfair.

As long as casuals don't get the highest level of gear like raiders do, it shouldn't matter what gear casuals acquire. Relic weapon might not be your end game, but it might be end game for somebody else.

Furthermore, you are discussing the end game of a raider and applying it to a casual. That's not how it works. Casual's end game, as I explained, is not the same as a raider's. You shouldn't, then, apply the standards of a raider to a casual and say that gear doesn't matter to them. It does matter but in a different context.

Edit: I can only post 1000 characters, so I made two posts to make my point clear.

Delay was announced 2 months ago. We ALREADY knew this. Stop spreading nonsense.

I'm no disappointed in the slightest. I'm looking forward to Ananta tribe , submarines thingys and new gear.

Doesn't bother me one bit. It was expected really. There's plenty to do in this game. Not choosing to do certain aspects of it is a personal problem for people.

Honestly if it gets delayed again they may was well scrap it and overhaul it for the next expansion. At this point we're already likely losing a step in the weapon/armor's empowerment or they're going to nerf the first few steps to create a sort of "catch up" to where we should be.

4.3/4.3.5 would be pretty far into the expansion's life to start this.

Considering I was originally expecting Relic in 4.15, then 4.2, and now 4.25 yeah i'm a bit disappointed. Thankfully, there will be other stuff to occupy my time.

Not disappointed in anyway with this. We are getting so much content already on 4.2 release that we will be busy for a while anyways. Just don't rush through things and you will be fine.

They said they are aiming for 4.25 which in SE terms means not bloody likely

I don't mind. I would rather them take their time and make it great than releasing something half-baked like Diadem was.

I am happy that they are taking their time with it. Players can be harsh when it comes to judging content so there is nothing wrong with them wanting to get it just right.

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Originally Posted by Oscura

Still funny that we were told we were only getting 1 dungeon per odd patch for things like Eureka only for Eureka to nearly be delayed until 4.3 at this point.

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The new thing, that replace a dungeon in 4.1, is the new PvP mode.
Nowhere they said it would be Eureka

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I don't mind. I would rather them take their time and make it great than releasing something half-baked like Diadem was.

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They took their time and delayed diadem 2.0, and look how it ended.

They really need a public test server for stuff like this.

Naw I expected it to be 2.5 so don't bother me.

So the complaint is that they should be rushing Eureka to please you, instead of doing what they need to do with Eureka in order to ensure it doesn't become another Diadem after they realized what a mess they made with that system?

Seems legit.

Definitely disappointed. /sigh

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Originally Posted by alimdia

They took their time and delayed diadem 2.0, and look how it ended.

They really need a public test server for stuff like this.

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I've heard a rumour that Eureka (or 'test content for FFXIV') might be similar to Dynamis Divergence. If that turns out to be true, would that kinda count as 'public test?'

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Originally Posted by Felis

The new thing, that replace a dungeon in 4.1, is the new PvP mode.
Nowhere they said it would be Eureka

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No the new pvp mode was a delay from 4.0

I am not surprised, just losing more and more interest to log in :/ Everything is rinse repeat over and over for years, and with the delays, makes it just too hard to log in, luckily I have month to month sub, so I can just cancel.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

Right about here.

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Sorry typo, i dont speak english as main language so i have troble with gramar sometimes. What i was trying to say is even if i dont like do raids i still have a good time working on relics.

I thought my response to your previous comment would give you that idea...

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

So the complaint is that they should be rushing Eureka to please you, instead of doing what they need to do with Eureka in order to ensure it doesn't become another Diadem after they realized what a mess they made with that system?

Seems legit.

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I'm probably not alone of wanting it now or 4.15..
This system most likely been in dev for at least a year and they still have nothing to show?
That scares me, it gives me the idea it was being Diadem 3.0 and they freaked out when they noticed how the community responded to Diadem

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Originally Posted by Mature

Delay was announced 2 months ago. We ALREADY knew this. Stop spreading nonsense.

I'm no disappointed in the slightest. I'm looking forward to Ananta tribe , submarines thingys and new gear.

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They been saying 4.2 or later iirc, if that the case it doesnt automaticly means it was a guaranteed delay to .25?
How is this spreading nonsense, i'm voicing a opinion.