Suggestion thread: What do other MMOs have that could improve/enhance FFXIV

This is something of a revamp of a prior post I made. Thought about some things, handled some issues that occurred during my last rather large thread I made. Maybe in my ignorance, I jumped the gun with that post. So, let’s try this again. Rather than a post about why we shouldn’t pull things from other games, what do you think would work towards making the already good FFXIV even better. I saw some glam log ideas and I fully support that. I want to add on, after doing some research, I think housing like what’s in Wildstar would be awesome. Obviously, it isn’t going to happen, not with the way the our servers are currently holding up, but it would still be pretty nice, don’t you think?

I also made this comment in another thread, and while I like how squadrons is for its first iteration, it can definitely use improvement. I’m leaning towards a battle system similar to what is in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Minus the ability to pause of course, but if we have LoV, I’m sure we could probably get something similar.

- An active battle system from TERA online.
- Glamour book from Guild Wars 2
- Raids from Wildstar
- Housing from Wildstar
- Big open world like Archeage (ability to sail to different places etc)
- PvP zone from The Elder Scrolls online.
- Character customization from games like Black Desert Online or Bless Online

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Originally Posted by Laerune

- Character customization from games like Black Desert Online or Bless Online

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Being that I am an Au Ra, I would love this. There's only so much customization you can do when your face is already preset by horns. Changing skin color, eyes, and hairstyle doesn't really grant me a particularly huge opportunity when I can tell that Au Ra's with the same horns pretty much have similarly shaped faces.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Being that I am an Au Ra, I would love this. There's only so much customization you can do when your face is already preset by horns. Changing skin color, eyes, and hairstyle doesn't really grant me a particularly huge opportunity when I can tell that Au Ra's with the same horns pretty much have similarly shaped faces.

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I would love it if all the face options were disconnected from things like Au'ra horns or facial customization options(like only certain male faces can have full beards or a scar on one eye or a particular tattoo, etc). Just open the whole thing up and let me choose which face I want and have more than 4 options for facial customization.

Besieged from FFXI, random large scale city attacks where a certain amt of people need to defend (Had a limit of like 500 players in XI or some crazy thing when these happened)

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Besieged from FFXI, random large scale city attacks where a certain amt of people need to defend (Had a limit of like 500 players in XI or some crazy thing when these happened)

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Didn't 1.0 have something similar to this with leves? Or was that something in development hell

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Didn't 1.0 have something similar to this with leves? Or was that something in development hell

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That was at the end of the 1.0 game when the meteor was about to come down yes. Exactly like that basically.

-Besieged type battles from FFXI
-Campaign battles from FFXI
-Content heavier raids like dynamis in FFXI
-Account stash or storage accessible to all characters on the same world like seen on PSO2/PSU
-Thriller dance for Halloween event (multiple games) >.>
-The ability to send mail to your other characters (multiple games)
-Humorous commercials with well known celebrities (WoW) I lost interest in the game quickly but got a laugh from the commercials with Mr. T and Ozzy :P (This doesn't directly effect the actual game itself but would bring in more new players)
-PvP mode similar to the faction war they did in Pandora Saga

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Didn't 1.0 have something similar to this with leves? Or was that something in development hell

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Only thing that comes close to it is Hamlet and that was in 1.0, do you mean this feature?

Fair, active, and better support for PvP.
Community reps that engage in two-way communication with the community, and are thus better informed of what they want/need.
Endgame content with difficulty that doesn't set the bar incredibly low.
Butt sliders.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Only thing that comes close to it is Hamlet and that was in 1.0, do you mean this feature?

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I think so. I've only seen it mentioned in a 1.x documentary that I watched a while back. It looked interesting, so I figured this might've been it. It actually looked pretty fun too.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

-Besieged type battles from FFXI
-Campaign battles from FFXI
-Content heavier raids like dynamis in FFXI
-Account stash or storage accessible to all characters on the same world like seen on PSO2/PSU
-Thriller dance for Halloween event (multiple games) >.>
-The ability to send mail to your other characters (multiple games)
-Humorous commercials with well known celebrities (WoW) I lost interest in the game quickly but got a laugh from the commercials with Mr. T and Ozzy :P (This doesn't directly effect the actual game itself but would bring in more new players)
-PvP mode similar to the faction war they did in Pandora Saga

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SO yeah...I really have little clue about how FFXI was. Lots of people hold it in a pretty good regard, though. What are these campaign battles?

LOTRO Music System (I'm well aware we'll be getting one soon but it pales in comparison compared to what you can do in LOTRO)
LOTRO Scaling Dungeons - We Get synced down in FFXIV but these dungeons in LOTRO also sync up. The rewards are the same but the stats on them increase in value too depending on your level.
LOTRO Smaller Group Content - In LOTRO you can do three man mini dungeons. I'm aware we have a party limit of 4 in regular dungeons but even being able to duo stuff would be fun.
WoW Mythic + system - Scalable dungeons which give random modifiers. Yes please.
Either something similar to WoW or LOTRO legendary weapon that grows with you.
Gear sets which unlock useful traits to use. (I know they've said no but still..)
Any wardobe function - This speaks for itself.
GW2 style events. - Improve the FATE system and make it more worthwhile to do. There's so much potential but it falls flat.

XI's glamour system
GW2's material bank, dye system, crafting system, shared account inventory
Archeage's open world (truly, their world alone is amazing..)
XI's world depth - something to make XIV feel more than a glorified waiting room
Wildstar's housing

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Didn't 1.0 have something similar to this with leves? Or was that something in development hell

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Yes and no. It didn't have anything large scale city attacks related in the whole of 1.0 except at the very end when the game was coming down as a special event thing where Ul'dah was invaded by monsters. It was fun really and it should be possible to do. I don't see it happening though again due to the disruption it would cause since cities are a trade, questing and crafting hub.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

- An active battle system from TERA online.

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This and this alone. If FFXIV and TERA made a baby mmo I would play that nonstop.

The CC of bdo is a little far fetched but just something better...
Also I absolutely love the housing/cities in bdo. You can just be in the city, it feels so nice and lively.

WoWs Mythic+ Dungeon system
GW2s Dye System
PvP like TERA/TERAs Battle System
Glamour Book from GW2 or Transmog System from WoW
Bank from WoW where we can purchase addtional slots
Open world PvP like World VS World in GW 2

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

SO yeah...I really have little clue about how FFXI was. Lots of people hold it in a pretty good regard, though. What are these campaign battles?

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Campaign is an ever-running server-wide system that involves all players, whose actions will influence items sold by NPC, access to teleportation, access to some battlefield, and more. Campaign battles is the main, or most visible, part of it. There isn't anything comparable in FFXIV (both 1.0 and ARR), but FFXI has 4 systems of this type (conquest, besieged, campaign and colonisation)

In Campaign, the 3 city-state and 4 beastmen tribes are at war. Every area is susceptible to hold a battle and can be conquered by a camp depending on the outcome of the battles.
Each camp has statistics like Supplies, Reconnaissance, Morale, etc. that influence its power in battle (if a camp has a low morale, its troop will retreat more easily). Players can influence these statistics with small repeatable quests of various kind (kill an enemy, craft some weapons, plant a bomb, etc.)
Each camp has multiple troops of NPC and will send them to the areas (players can vote for the strategy to adopt : conquer new area, or protect what we have, etc.). Each troop has a powerful leader.
With all these parameters, battles are always different. There are easy battle against one lone enemy troop, or long battle with multiple reinforcements.

There are also special mercenary NPC that players can persuade to join their camp (for example, there is a Dragoon NPC, and if a lot of windurstian players set their job to Dragoon and talk to her, she will join Windurst)

To summarize the good points :
- It involves everyone. Low level player can do the quests to build the nation's supplies, and middle to high level players fight.
- Everyone wins. Quests and battles mainly give xp, but the whole server "wins" when a beastmen stronghold is conquered.
- Every day can be different. When you log in, something may have happened when you were away that makes you change what you were planning to do.

What FFXIV can bring to make it even better :
- The UI. I've said battle is the most visible part of campaign in FFXI because a lot of the other things are "hidden" in its old interface with tiny windows.
- Even more importance to craft and gathering, since they're full-fledged class.

What wouldn't work so well in FFXIV :
- Open world content is currently anecdotal in FFXIV, everything important is in instance, so it may be hard to make it relevant.

Server shared storage like the SWTOR legacy storage - not using a retainer but a system like the guild bank

Crafting interface links with retainer inventories and can use items held by retainers

A wardrobe function like LOTRO or the outfit facility from GW2

Multiple dye slots and the same sort of dye system as GW2 (pay once to unlock and use that colour as many times as you like)

More companions - why limit it just to your Choco?

ESO comes to mind.

Beef up local exploration to make more interactive environmental objects.

I like being able to go in every building in ESO and check the drawers and find items, search barrels, pots, drawers, etc. I'd like to see all buildings in ffxiv be accessible with more object interaction, maybe at times even have locked doors and at some point find or get a key from a drop etc to open them, maybe find a random treasure chest once in a while.

I think FFXI has a better glamour system. you can save as many outfits as you want and change them whenever you want. No need for prisms, no need to have the item in your inventory, no need to re-glamour a slot because you got a gear upgrade. It's just a book with all your favorite outfits saved, and you can switch through them all at the press of a button anytime.

FFXIVs gear upgrades faster than milk expires, I finally get my glamour all set, then I get a piece upgrade... wasting more glamour prisms and forcing me to hold more stuff in my inventory. Plus I cant save my favorite sets. :(

I think this game would be better with more mini-games. Like capture the flag, and blitzball, but make them huge things that you can do as alternatives to pveing all the time.

More detailed character customization (thinking like ESO, I almost never met anyone who looked like me in that game) and more broadly just more interaction with the dev team.

On the ESO forums there are a couple mods who's job seems to be to respond to player inquiries and pass relavent info on. You can tag them like twitter (so like @ZOSGinaBruno was the one I knew of) and if it's a question they get you an answer or if it's a request they seem to bounce up the reasonable ones as I've seen quite a few particularly around job balancing become reality. I think having a middleman between us and the devs basically would be nice.