Limitation of usable items in the house

Hey community,
Hey developers,

since SE gave us customizable walls for the houses the things with the limitation just got more real. We totally like them and we really want to use them but the limitation just makes it useless.

Are you willing to remove/raise the limitation? Or is there a technical limitation?
If so, would it be possible to make walls usable and unuseable while they getting placed?

I. e. i place the wall, decorate it, then go to the housing menu and make it unusable so it doesnt count in the limitations?

Not gonna cry about it, but i bought gold walls from the mogry store for 42,- € to decorate the walls with, and since a big house has so much room we used them a lot, not knowing about the limitation since its not written anywhere in the game.

Now stuff just randomly disappears - i can't be the only one who isnt amused about this limitation, am i?

This is the main reason I will never use those walls. The fact they're invisible to me until I run right up to them is frustrating. I already have enough items that are invisible because of the limit ( the toy statues, the crafting tables, paintings, musical instruments, NPCs, company chest, armoire, planter pots, flower vases, and countless lamps / other decor ). I feel like the limit has to be super super low.... ( does anyone have an exact number? ) Because I don't feel like I even have that many interactive items but its a persistent problem.

Think the limitation that was mentioned was 40. If there is a technical factor to it, I really think SE should put a hard cap on the items and make players pick and choose what they actually want to display. Otherwise, yeah, being able to change the state of a useable/interactable item into a non-interactive one would be nice.

Yes the limit is 40.

You can probably get away with slightly higher depending on your setup, but there's really no guarantees. It doesn't choose what to load based on proximity or based on line of sight, so there's really no telling what is going to load or not. I'm at 43 items I believe, and I don't have any issue with invisible items, because the extra ones load before I can see them, but if I add 1-3 more then one of my partitions starts disappearing.

lol>< I just made a thread on this issue:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...12#post4440112

They are wonderful furnishings and I'm so happy to have them! But please do address the issue of them disappearing^_^)!

Being able to 'lock' and 'unlock' the wallpaper to them so they are no longer usable on demand might be a good solution.

Same with flower pots! ^^

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Originally Posted by Freyt

Yes the limit is 40.

You can probably get away with slightly higher depending on your setup, but there's really no guarantees. It doesn't choose what to load based on proximity or based on line of sight, so there's really no telling what is going to load or not. I'm at 43 items I believe, and I don't have any issue with invisible items, because the extra ones load before I can see them, but if I add 1-3 more then one of my partitions starts disappearing.

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I dont think it has something to do with your PC, i for myself have an AMD Ryzen 7 1700X with 32GB RAM and an AMD Radeon Pro Duo, FFXIV installed on an Kingston HyperX M.2 SSD, another FC member has something like 7th Gen i7, GTX 1080 Ti and its the same for him.
So i think it's hardcoded like "if more then 40 items remove random items until the player gets close"

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Originally Posted by Eckelein

I dont think it has something to do with your PC, i for myself have an AMD Ryzen 7 1700X with 32GB RAM and an AMD Radeon Pro Duo, FFXIV installed on an Kingston HyperX M.2 SSD, another FC member has something like 7th Gen i7, GTX 1080 Ti and its the same for him.
So i think it's hardcoded like "if more then 40 items remove random items until the player gets close"

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Yes... that is what I was saying.

The hard limit of interactive items, without the game refusing to load them all, is 40 interactive items.

Whether you have an apartment, a cottage, a house, or a mansion, it's 40 items. Whether you have a shit PC, or you're on PS4, or you have a phenomenal PC, it's 40 items.

However if you go just a few items above the 40 item limit, then you do stand a chance of not being adversely affected, as you're not likely to be within line of sight of all 40 items. If you go any more than just a few items, however, the odds of being adversely affected shoot way up.

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Originally Posted by Freyt

Yes... that is what I was saying.

The hard limit of interactive items, without the game refusing to load them all, is 40 interactive items.

Whether you have an apartment, a cottage, a house, or a mansion, it's 40 items. Whether you have a shit PC, or you're on PS4, or you have a phenomenal PC, it's 40 items.

However if you go just a few items above the 40 item limit, then you do stand a chance of not being adversely affected, as you're not likely to be within line of sight of all 40 items. If you go any more than just a few items, however, the odds of being adversely affected shoot way up.

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Ah, i missunderstood you then sorry. After reading your post for the, like, 5th time i got it. English is not my mothertongue though :D

same problem -_- pls Help SE

At the very least this limitation should be based upon house size, with larger houses having a slightly higher limit. 40 clickable wallpapers and paintings don't go very far in a Large house, especially when that is shared with other absolutely gorgeous furnishings, like Gubal lamps.

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

At the very least this limitation should be based upon house size, with larger houses having a slightly higher limit. 40 clickable wallpapers and paintings don't go very far in a Large house, especially when that is shared with other absolutely gorgeous furnishings, like Gubal lamps.

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At the very least we need an explanation of why this issue exists as well as solutions to get rid of the cap or lower the interactive item count if that's not possible. For example they could have something similar to a paint furniture menu for interactive furniture that lets you change the painting, swap flowers, change wallpaper, etc and then there's no interactive nature to these objects out of that menu. Given the limited number of larger sized houses, we don't need more limitations based on house size added.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

At the very least we need an explanation of why this issue exists

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We actually had an issue in our FC house recently where too many interactive items (our upstairs 'inn room' was full of food, flower vases, and lamps) made large interactive items (fish tank, cooking stove, etc.) disappear at any distance farther than a few character-lengths away. This even happened to our members with the best graphics cards (and one of them almost had an aneurysm, which was kind of amusing.) As soon as we took out a couple of the food items, everything went back to normal. While I assume that this won't happen everywhere or to everything, I bet this is why there's a limit.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

We actually had an issue in our FC house recently where too many interactive items (our upstairs 'inn room' was full of food, flower vases, and lamps) made large interactive items (fish tank, cooking stove, etc.) disappear at any distance farther than a few character-lengths away. This even happened to our members with the best graphics cards (and one of them almost had an aneurysm, which was kind of amusing.) As soon as we took out a couple of the food items, everything went back to normal. While I assume that this won't happen everywhere or to everything, I bet this is why there's a limit.

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The thing is: This happens BECAUSE of the limitation - there is not really a hard cap wehere the game says "you placed 40 interactable items, you cant place more"
You just can place as much as you want and after you placed more then 40, random items will disapear regardless of how much power your rig has or not - without any warning or whatsoever (and if someone of SE is reading this: No we surely do NOT want just a warning message for the cap)

Maybe this limitation is an legacy to the old PS3 which - maybe - wasnt powerfull enough to show all them. But on the other Hand: Why would a interactable item cost more ressources then a non-interactable? Has to be rendered in any case. Still there is the cap on 400 Items per big house which is totally ok for me.

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Originally Posted by Eckelein

But on the other Hand: Why would a interactable item cost more ressources then a non-interactable? Has to be rendered in any case. Still there is the cap on 400 Items per big house which is totally ok for me.

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because you not only have to send the position of the item from the server to the client but also if the lamp is on or off, if the food decoration is still there or if it's all eaten and just the empty plate is left, what picture is in the frame, wich decoration is on the wall, is the shower running or not... and if the game asks about this aaaall the time, since anybody can easily click on something and change the status of the item at any time, this could cause some server load.

As cool as interactive items are, I hope there are fewer of them going forward. The majority of new furnishings lately have been interactive, which means I can't use them due to the limit.