[Devs]Are We Ever Going To Get More Outdoor Furniture Slots?

Will we ever get more slots for items that can be placed outside in our yards? The inside cap was doubled. Will we ever see the outside cap raised? 20 -> 30 -> 40 is very restrictive....

Yes please, considering also that every other patch we get new outdoor furninshing and we have to get rid of things in order to place the new ones. i get it, server load, blabla. But come on... it's 2017.

At the very least please remove the teleport crystal and the mailbox from the items counted toward placement. 20 slots for a small house are way too little for any creativity so I hope we get some relief with addition item placement soon. I know they mentioned they'd look at it after Shirogane and relocation goals were achieved.

They said they'd look into it, but have other changes that will be coming first.

You have to keep in mind that an increase of just 10 to each front yard would increase the potential amount of objects in a single housing ward instance by 300. That's 100 more than the previous increase to mansions.
I'm comparing the two, since a housing interior is one instance, while the entirety of the outdoor part of a housing area is also one instance.

When walking around in a housing ward, have you ever experienced stuttering even though your PC has like a 1080 in it and all? That's the effect of all the items in a radius around you needing to be loaded, displayed and unloaded from your system's memory. Also, if you had one of certain older network cards in your PC it would also frequently DC you inside housing wards (I know I had that problem with my older PC and the drivers just weren't getting any updates anymore).

The problem with adding items to the housing ward is less about SE being able to store things database side and more about the graphical problems that will occur with the game-engine's stability and properly displaying things around your character. If they add slots to gardens of our houses as it is now we'll experience more constant loading stuttering and a lot more objects just popping into existence as you walk around and get close to them, or even worse, constantly crash the game. :(

I thought Yoshida said they would struggle because 32-bit PCs would explode trying to load the wards (exaggeration but it was along those lines and I'm sure he cited the 32-bit support as an issue).

Removing the mandatory aetheryte is a good idea though. Everyone has one and most people just try to hide it inside something because it clashes with their garden design anyway. Just make it a visual-only thing for those who genuinely want to have one in their garden and let everyone else throw theirs away?

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Originally Posted by Serilda

Removing the mandatory aetheryte is a good idea though. Everyone has one and most people just try to hide it inside something because it clashes with their garden design anyway. Just make it a visual-only thing for those who genuinely want to have one in their garden and let everyone else throw theirs away?

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Yes, could def do without the forced crystal. A mailbox by each of the marketboards would be nice too since we only have two mailbox designs.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You have to keep in mind that an increase of just 10 to each front yard would increase the potential amount of objects in a single housing ward instance by 300. That's 100 more than the previous increase to mansions.
I'm comparing the two, since a housing interior is one instance, while the entirety of the outdoor part of a housing area is also one instance.

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This right here is one of the big issues they have to tackle. As of now you have 730 pieces of furniture loading in each ward if everyone has used up all their slots. Each slot in addition for all the plots would be 30 more pieces on top of that, and they'd likely want to add more slots to the larger plots so even more than that.

They could use a weighed system, like for example you get "80" value of things, something basic as flower petals on the ground could be 1 weighed, a big tree could be 5, so on.

It's entirely possible that flower petals are more complex than a tree, though, which is why the leaf piles are quite small. I would guess that the modellers try to do what they can with the polygon/texture limitations per slot already. Though the 'one per estate' items are blatantly extra complicated so maybe there's something they can adjust there.

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Originally Posted by Valenth

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I'm on PS4 so I never had any of that. I have noticed that when I enter a housing zone that the PS4 fans make more noise than usual meaning it's working harder..


I think what they could do is only load things that's on your screen. It may not be pretty when you walk up to a house and see it pop up in front of you but it's a good way to save energy.

I agree! I have several trees AND leaf piles in my yard and they all count each as an item. Even an increase of 5 would go a long way.

Yes please!, I would love to have 10 more slots.

I would like see more slots. This however is more justification for moving to instanced housing. The yard can become part of the house's instance removing the limitations of the housing ward instance.

I do not support the idea of increasing the number of outdoor items. I do not want my housing ward zoning times to be similar to zoning into Kugane / Rhalgar's Reach / insert other end game zone here.

I do support moving the Aether Crystal and mailboxes to the market boards, that would be great.

I know this is an old thread but we're still waiting for more slots outside!! I would even be happy with 5 extra slots but would prefer at least 10. Please devs please!!! I hope it comes with SHB.

Yea, there's improvement needed to expand the slots for the outside. So many nice items to display yet we are limited by choice.

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Originally Posted by ern815

Yea, there's improvement needed to expand the slots for the outside. So many nice items to display yet we are limited by choice.

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Or limited by other things like the servers trying to render the 730 items people currently have placed in their yards (plus the houses with the different skin options as well as the random NPCs that walk around). Example:

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

I'm on PS4 so I never had any of that. I have noticed that when I enter a housing zone that the PS4 fans make more noise than usual meaning it's working harder..

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

I do not support the idea of increasing the number of outdoor items. I do not want my housing ward zoning times to be similar to zoning into Kugane / Rhalgar's Reach / insert other end game zone here.

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There's a reason it's so much harder for them to give us more outdoor furniture slots. Yoshida has said they're looking into how to give us more outdoor slots, but it could be a lot for some people's computers or PS4s to handle.