Suggestion for Companion Chocobo for 4.1

Ok, so they've said we'll get a visual timer for chocobo on how much time remains for them to be out, that's great, but it doesn't help as much as it could.

I'm suggesting that we be able to feed our chocobo an additional Gysahl Green, similar to how we can have a food buff last for an hour, to let our chocobo be out for an hour. Half an hour passes by pretty quickly, and allowing us to feed them an additional green to extend the time up to a maximum of an hour would help us not be backed into a corner during fates we get caught up in/chocobo unsummoning during daily activities/hunts where we need the assistance.

I'd appreciate if they made them take reduced damage from all forms of AoE damage and made the healer chocobo AI prefer staying at max range.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'd appreciate if they made them take reduced damage from all forms of AoE damage and made the healer chocobo AI prefer staying at max range.

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I'm sure you're not the only one who'd appreciate it, but since they have said nothing about either of those things, I'm only focusing on what they said was going to be added and trying to add to that.

This would be great over all, but for me it wouldn't matter much since I send my bo away before the timer runs out quite frequently. Thanks to Naruto, I created a macro that summons my berd saying, "Katon! Kuchiyose-no-Jutsu!" and I use him similar to how summons are used in that anime, sometimes even sending him away mid-fight like he's some kind of boss that comes in and wrecks crap for a few, or heals me up then takes off ;p

I also had a big problem with always forgetting to send him away, and having to teleport outside somewhere and teleport back just so I can stable him, or summon a minion. That's something I really wish they would fix.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

This would be great over all, but for me it wouldn't matter much since I send my bo away before the timer runs out quite frequently. Thanks to Naruto, I created a macro that summons my berd saying, "Katon! Kuchiyose-no-Jutsu!" and I use him similar to how summons are used in that anime, sometimes even sending him away mid-fight like he's some kind of boss that comes in and wrecks crap for a few, or heals me up then takes off ;p

I also had a big problem with always forgetting to send him away, and having to teleport outside somewhere and teleport back just so I can stable him, or summon a minion. That's something I really wish they would fix.

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In 4.1 you can have the chocobo and a minion out at the same time.

i want something like this for a loong while now.

a general buff to the tank-chocobo would be nice, more enmity generation especially. and the fact that your chocobo disappears when the 30 mins are over and his enmity drops to 0 is another huge issue with the tank chocobo.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

In 4.1 you can have the chocobo and a minion out at the same time.

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That's awesome \oo/

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Originally Posted by Tint

i want something like this for a loong while now.

a general buff to the tank-chocobo would be nice, more enmity generation especially. and the fact that your chocobo disappears when the 30 mins are over and his enmity drops to 0 is another huge issue with the tank chocobo.

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The main issues that would fix that are spending time in the garden. There's chocobo food that increased their stances, but you can only focus on one at a time

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Chocobo_Raising

If you give them the food long enough, it'll become their favorite, further boosting the buffs from the food.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

The main issues that would fix that are spending time in the garden. There's chocobo food that increased their stances, but you can only focus on one at a time

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i have tried that, but the chocobo still had no chance to hold enmity against me. the problem is that the chocobo scales only with my level, not with my gear. so even when he can hold enmity against me at lvl 65 or 70 when i am wearing ilvl 290 gear, he has no chance when i am wearing ilvl 330 gear. and it only gets worse.

i would say the chocobo should scale with the gear, like the egis from summoner, but even then we need an enmity boost for the tank chocobo. even IF the chocobo can hold enmity with the enmity buffood - why does the tank chocobo need a buffood to fulfill it's core function, when the DD and healer chocobo don't? he should at least be able to hold enmity against a dpsing-healer without any sort of extra buff!

I'm with Tint! I raised my Bo to be a tank to help me, but I really wish I just opted for him to DPS since he can't hold enmity half the time. Poor bird practically spams it's emnity building skills, too!

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Originally Posted by Tint

i have tried that, but the chocobo still had no chance to hold enmity against me. the problem is that the chocobo scales only with my level, not with my gear. so even when he can hold enmity against me at lvl 65 or 70 when i am wearing ilvl 290 gear, he has no chance when i am wearing ilvl 330 gear. and it only gets worse.

i would say the chocobo should scale with the gear, like the egis from summoner, but even then we need an enmity boost for the tank chocobo. even IF the chocobo can hold enmity with the enmity buffood - why does the tank chocobo need a buffood to fulfill it's core function, when the DD and healer chocobo don't? he should at least be able to hold enmity against a dpsing-healer without any sort of extra buff!

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Was going to mentioned this but you got to it first. I think our chocobo should have a base stats scaling off our level, then boost accordingly to our ilvl. Or just increase the enmity and defense in tank stance by a crazy amount. Right now attacking and healing stance aren't great, but at least they are decent. Defense stance is just downright useless.

For healing stance I hope SE can just increase the duration of choco surge to a crazy amount so it doesn't keep spamming surge instead of heals. Something like 30 or 60 sec duration with 1 or 2 min cd. Just adjust the healing potency gain accordingly to maintain the balance. Also can we please get the ability to manually place chocobo like SMN/SCH pet please?

Lastly, chocobo LB please? >_<

Chocobos in general should really have a rework. They were a massive boon in ARR- their stats were much closer to our own. However, since Heavensward, and even more so now in Stormblood, the gap between us and them is widening, making our companions less and less useful. NPCs in MSQ are more useful in healing, dealing damage, and holding enmity than our companions, and you don't need to invest absurd amounts of EXP, onions or plants to get food buffs.

So while having the timer is a nice touch, it'd be great to see some care go back into them again (like stat/growth adjustment).

As crazy as this sounds, would anyone be keen on other mounts being given the companion treatment at this point?

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

As crazy as this sounds, would anyone be keen on other mounts being given the companion treatment at this point?

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Midgardsommr, Fenrir, Behemoth, Yol would be nice companions, let's go for those. Now let's see, I'm trying to picture the egg, the broom and the yokai mounts....

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

As crazy as this sounds, would anyone be keen on other mounts being given the companion treatment at this point?

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I'd rather the retainers be given that treatment myself.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I also had a big problem with always forgetting to send him away, and having to teleport outside somewhere and teleport back just so I can stable him, or summon a minion. That's something I really wish they would fix.

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There's a companion action you can bind to a hotbar "return" or something like that, that dismisses them, in town or not. I have it on a side hotbar JUST for this reason.

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

I'd rather the retainers be given that treatment myself.

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Yes, this is also a good idea, retainers and chocobo. So that they can help with non-dungeon fights like FATEs, since squadron members will be utilised in dungeons by 4.1 if I'm not mistaken.

Double cost for Gysahl Green and double time for chocobo, we will spend the same but we will not need to use item so often.
The easiest solution for me.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

As crazy as this sounds, would anyone be keen on other mounts being given the companion treatment at this point?

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There's been many threads about that already. I don't know why people are so keen on trying to change the topic of the intended thread.

Let's add some mounted combat on that choco. Bow, Spear, Slingshot, Shield
Unlockable traversal skills for that chocobo. Jumping, Swimming, Flying, Digging, &climbing specialty maneuvers
Let's add Squadron/retainers useful in the open world.
Give us a few story arcs/quest based around fostering a bond and empowering our companions.(Artifact Quest for npcs)
Add some emotes for interacting with companions.
Give humanoid companions some banter, voiced or quest bubble.
Color-able highlights, beaks, feet on that choco.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Chocobos in general should really have a rework. They were a massive boon in ARR- their stats were much closer to our own. However, since Heavensward, and even more so now in Stormblood, the gap between us and them is widening, making our companions less and less useful. NPCs in MSQ are more useful in healing, dealing damage, and holding enmity than our companions, and you don't need to invest absurd amounts of EXP, onions or plants to get food buffs.

So while having the timer is a nice touch, it'd be great to see some care go back into them again (like stat/growth adjustment).

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They aren't nearly as bad as you make it sound. I've found that their healing is just fine when in healing stance (their late reaction time to healing in free stance has always been the same). The only level I'd consider them "bad" is lvl 60 to 61, since they're still at HW stats against SB mobs. I'm not sure how the enmity part is, since I've never bothered using it as a tank.

As for food, I don't really think it's that much of an absurd amount. Feeding it 10 times through training at a chocobo stable for it to turn into the chocobo's favourite feed, and then it'll stick around until you decide to feed it a different non-krakka root feed.
That said, a nice QoL change would be to be able to summon the chocobo with (for example) a curiel root, so I don't have to bring both gysahl greens and curiel roots.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

There's been many threads about that already. I don't know why people are so keen on trying to change the topic of the intended thread.

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We're keen on it since the topic in question is on fixing up the companion chocobo, and there are plenty of players, myself included, that would enjoy seeing other mounts worked into the companion system.

TLDR: If they plan to put more work into the companion system, this is one request that we have for it.

Sorry if my playful approach wasn't good enough for you. On topic of the Chocobo companion, I already noted my regrets in going for a tank bird as it can no longer hold aggro from me in content I can take him. That is a massive problem that needs addressing as it fully defeats the purpose of going for the tank skills.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

We're keen on it since the topic in question is on fixing up the companion chocobo, and there are plenty of players, myself included, that would enjoy seeing other mounts worked into the companion system.

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This is trying to improve the chocobo its self, not making it interchangeable with other mounts like has been suggested in multiple other threads. It's improving what's already there/has been confirmed that will be there, not making them add something that isn't there at all. And as I said before, there's been multiple threads in the past that were about giving us different things besides the chocobo to fight with us in combat, plus this would take much more work than what I've suggested.

I'm all for this idea. More often than not the thirty minute timer just is not that great when you're focused and while they are adding the timer to the chocobo to see when its about up it still would be nice to have the option of having it around for more than the thirty.

If you're gonna afk in the openworld.
Don't forget to hop on the mount
Or you just waste your chocobo timer.

what they need to do is remove the timer completely, make it so when you use a Gysahl Green the chocobo will stay summoned untill you dismiss it manually or you log off, you will still need Gysahl Greens but will no longer have to worry about the timer

not sure if anyone else has mentioned this yet or not didnt feel like reading 3 pages to find out

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

what they need to do is remove the timer completely, make it so when you use a Gysahl Green the chocobo will stay summoned untill you dismiss it manually or you log off, you will still need Gysahl Greens but will no longer have to worry about the timer

not sure if anyone else has mentioned this yet or not didnt feel like reading 3 pages to find out

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Or just remove Gysahl Greens and make summon chocobo cost gil directly. Make it cost like 1k gil per summon and make it last indefinitely. The 3 chocobo food should summon our feather friend directly with the respective buff if it happens to be their favorite food.