Can we get children?

There should be a system where married couples can either have or adopt children. It would be so cool! it'd bring a whole new level in to the marriage system; having a family is an important part in a marriage.

I'm not certain about the details, but maybe they could act as retrainers when they get about a certain age. They could start off as infants and grow up to a certain point over time. Any other ideas would be great!

Edit: I can see where having children would cause an issue. I didn't intend it to be something inappropriate in the game; merely something like the two parents decide to have a kid and a little bit later, poof! They have a child! Thank you for all your feedback.
Now I'm leaning more towards adoption. I do see that a lot of you know that this could be turned upside-down and have a lot of issues with it, but I think if they made it right, so that those issues could not even come up, like dressing the child up (maybe kids could only use pre-made sets of clothing so that no issues could come from that), then the system could possibly work out.
I didn't consider what would happen in the case of a divorce because I never really anticipate such happenings, but that's why I asked for more suggestions to help polish the idea.

Thank you all for your feedback, especially do those of you who are being polite and understanding on this matter. And for those of you who keep saying this is not Sims, please rethink what you're saying and what that really means. As someone has posted in here, we buy houses in this game, and that's something that's in simulators. And I'm sure that's not the only thing.

This concept is cool. I'm not sure though if SE will implement it, especially story-wise.

But there's already plenty of lala-...

-clears throat- It'll be a neat idea.

This is not The Sims.

I can see something on the lines of it working out were we get an extra retrainer or something on those lines. We already get to train and level npc's and send them out to do quest's in our squads from the grand company and yes we can also count our retrainers since we can give them roles to gather mats and random loot wouldn't kill to give something to the married folk. It seems kind of sad that after doing the marriage quest you get a ring and outfit (mount if you buy the higher tiers). Would be kind of nice were we do a quest like light farming or gil farming to get an adoption document or the rings summon out a new born. But i do see some complication in it and hopefully we get something.

Only way this would work; and even then it's unlikely, is if they are untargetable. There exists an unfortunate group of people that would abuse this system for improper/lewd reasons that the Dev team wishes not to be associated with. I believe that much has been stated before.. or so I remember anyway.

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Originally Posted by Notomi

I'm not certain about the details

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When the mama Roe stares at the papa Roe and tells him to give it up.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

This is not The Sims.

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Ragnarok Online is not the Sims and still has that system. The difference here is that, instead of adopting an actual player, you'll be adopting an NPC. As for the idea, I'm neutral about it.

No, Lordy Lord, no.

Why would you want this? This isn't Harvest Moon, Stardew Valley, or Tomadachi Life. FFXIV isn't a life-sim.

What happens if you break the engagement of the rings, does this little NPC vanish? Do you both or one of you get saddled with them?

Plus, what would it do? Would you really want SE to deal with the implications of making the fake daughter/son NPC act just like a retainer? "Yes, I'll make this 8 year old looking NPC carry all my junk and go hunt monsters and call me Mommy."

:/ Not weird at all!


Besides, are people so cheap yet so bad at inventory management that the idea of implied child labor to skirt around buying a new retainer, or, I dare say, cleaning out your stacks of materials and unused glamours, seems appealing?

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Originally Posted by Anienai

When the mama Roe stares at the papa Roe and tells him to give it up.

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Just thought I'd point out that, I do believe, you have taken my words out of context. When I mentioned how I wasn't certain about the details, I meant the details as a whole. Like what the children would do or if they could be helpful to the parents someway. I do realize you may have purposefully taken my words out of context (in which case I ask you not to do again), but I've decided to assume it was a mistake due to my poor wording.

So who pays for the child support when the couple breaks up? Shared custody?

What happens to the child when the house gets demolished? Do they track you down and throw a tantrum about sleeping on the streets? Do we get to chuck them into an orphanage?

Do we get to drag them around with us so they can see us butcher people & monsters?

Do we get to put them to work and take all the money they earn?

Will they get sick if we don't change their diapers?

Will they die if we don't feed them or give them something to eat?

What would the child of a Lala & a Roe look like?

No children please.

This is not the sims.

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Originally Posted by DeaconMoore

So who pays for the child support when the couple breaks up? Shared custody?

What happens to the child when the house gets demolished? Do they track you down and throw a tantrum about sleeping on the streets? Do we get to chuck them into an orphanage?

Do we get to drag them around with us so they can see us butcher people & monsters?

Do we get to put them to work and take all the money they earn?

Will they get sick if we don't change their diapers?

Will they die if we don't feed them or give them something to eat?

What would the child of a Lala & a Roe look like?

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If they really add Adoptation system then they must add new DOH "Attorney" as well.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

This is not The Sims.

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Hey, The Sims is fun..well not four.

This doesn’t seem practical in any way and I’m actually surprised some have said that the children could act as retainers. If such a system is to be used in this way, just ask for a free retainer instead

Ragnarok Online had a player adoption system (as far as I can tell anyway, going off the wikis, since I've never played it myself). It had a few caveats though, like if you adopted a player they couldn't get married themselves, you had to be married to adopt a player, etc. There is precedent of it in an MMORPG setting. Now, whether or not it would work here remains to be seen, but I think if they implemented it, it'd have to work through that sort of system. But what rewards would there be for adopting? Since there's rewards for getting married, what about for adoption? RO had a system where teleports were freely available AFAIK. Perhaps that could be a guideline?

You are welcome to adopt me and send me stuff.

This is not The Sims.

This sounds awful. No, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Notomi

There should be a system where married couples can either have or adopt children. It would be so cool! it'd bring a whole new level in to the marriage system; having a family is an important part in a marriage.

I'm not certain about the details, but maybe they could act as retrainers when they get about a certain age. They could start off as infants and grow up to a certain point over time. Any other ideas would be great!

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only if it comes with /sex

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

This is not The Sims.

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

This is not the sims.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

This is not The Sims.

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Very astute, however I don't think this suggestion is asking for the sims. They asked for possibly having kids from a marriage.

I think it'd be neat to have the whole relationship aspect between two characters be deeper. Maybe have them be like a really involved plant or chocobo: they need mats to grow and learn and if you miss so many checkins or provide poor items they become delinquent or if you give them really good resources and advice they become elite members of society and give you little perks. Maybe if they start work with the airship fleets your airship flights are a little cheaper, maybe if they become alchemists you get pots a little cheaper or can buy certain items from the alchemist guild that others cannot.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Very astute, however I don't think this suggestion is asking for the sims. They asked for possibly having kids from a marriage.

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Adopt the kids is kinda sensitive.
How about adopt some "Egg" ?
Player can tend it different ways and when it hatches it will become mammals,insects,birds,Fish etc. etc. depend on how we take care of it (RNG involved).
After hatched then we send the monster to nursery and got rewards up to how good we took care of it.

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Adopt the kids is kinda sensitive.
How about adopt some "Egg" ?
Player can tend it different ways and when it hatches it will become mammals,insects,birds,Fish etc. etc. depend on how we take care of it (RNG involved).
After hatched then we send the monster to nursery and got rewards up to how good we took care of it.

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This would also be fun, but really why would you need to be married to have a pet? I understand the implications of suggesting kids are just items to have for benefits.. but I think the OP is mostly looking for a way for a marriage to be more than just a "ok.. now we're married.. now what?" thing.I'm mostly spitballing at how it could be added since it's been done in other games: I was someone's "kid" in RO. It was cute, I got xp buffs from partying with them and we could teleport to each other.. it did kinda suck when i got "orphaned" and since kids had reduced stats it was even harder for my character to level.. but while it was happening it was a cute little addition.

I think a lot of people are reading wayyy to deep into the morality of it. It's still just a game. Do you also think of the hundreds of sentient beings you've murdered just for the XP? We've killed gods, kings and footsoldiers and abandoning a kid is where you draw the line?

Maybe put them in houses like the other npcs we have.

what about what they did with tesv:skyrim where you can adopt orphans...there are plenty orphans around aorzea and other places

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Adopt the kids is kinda sensitive.
How about adopt some "Egg" ?
Player can tend it different ways and when it hatches it will become mammals,insects,birds,Fish etc. etc. depend on how we take care of it (RNG involved).
After hatched then we send the monster to nursery and got rewards up to how good we took care of it.

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I LOVE this idea :o

This is not a life Simulator

You are free to adopt me, I will gladly accept your love and adoration and I'll even get you a cheap tie / perfume on your birthday.

I think the issue that is stopping SE from adding this feature to the game, is the same reason why we can not play as children. There are people who will use the NPC s to act out something that SE does not want their brand to be associated with.

My advice, find a Lalafell and ask them to roleplay with you.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I think the issue that is stopping SE from adding this feature to the game, is the same reason why we can not play as children. There are people who will use the NPC s to act out something that SE does not want their brand to be associated with.

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Except, there are plenty child NPC's...This have nothing to do with morality or anything of the sort. We don't get to play children simply because it's not the sort of game where a child saves the world. It's a different design. There are games with playable characters being children and there are no such problems...but it's simply that they are designed with child main characters to begin with. Heck, there were Final Fantasy titles with playable children...

As for the child NPC from marriage, it may be cause they simply didn't think of that...or just cause they think it's unnecessary/a waste of resources. They may not be particularly against it. Just that they're not particularly for it.

As for those talking about it not being a life simulator/sims...I hope you never bought a house/appartament/guild house or any housing items. If you did, then you are simply hypocrites. Fact is that this game have some (extremely limited but...) life simulator options. They are simplified, but that's what the original poster asks for. A "token" character to symbolise the marriage past the wedding and the rings.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

This is not The Sims.

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popular kmmo already do this actually even mobile mmo do this. No harm in it, people love virtual pet systems.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I think the issue that is stopping SE from adding this feature to the game, is the same reason why we can not play as children. There are people who will use the NPC s to act out something that SE does not want their brand to be associated with.

My advice, find a Lalafell and ask them to roleplay with you.

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fireworks in ff11 let you take the form of child version of the races.

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Originally Posted by kikix12

Except, there are plenty child NPC's...This have nothing to do with morality or anything of the sort. We don't get to play children simply because it's not the sort of game where a child saves the world. It's a different design. There are games with playable characters being children and there are no such problems...but it's simply that they are designed with child main characters to begin with. Heck, there were Final Fantasy titles with playable children...

As for the child NPC from marriage, it may be cause they simply didn't think of that...or just cause they think it's unnecessary/a waste of resources. They may not be particularly against it. Just that they're not particularly for it.

As for those talking about it not being a life simulator/sims...I hope you never bought a house/appartament/guild house or any housing items. If you did, then you are simply hypocrites. Fact is that this game have some (extremely limited but...) life simulator options. They are simplified, but that's what the original poster asks for. A "token" character to symbolise the marriage past the wedding and the rings.

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There are children, but what can you do with them? You can click on them, get a text bubble and that is all.

SE wont add them as retainer type of characters, because people might dress them up in a certain way, do stuff that might bring bad press to SE, so to avoid they limit our interaction with them. I am always a supporter of more content and if SE wants to add interactable children to the game, I will support it, just like how I support your suggestion. But this question has been asked before (both a child as a retainer type or playable child/teen avatar and both times Yoshida said in a Q&A that, because of legal reasons they wont add these features to this game.

I wish you alot of luck, but children in mmorpg is one of those things that companies rather avoid, because of the mess that it can bring.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

I wish you alot of luck, but children in mmorpg is one of those things that companies rather avoid, because of the mess that it can bring.

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It's not my suggestion, and I won't even be affected by it.

And it's Square Enix that decised what can be done with the NPC's. There is no reason why they would make risky clothes for them if they don't want them to be fitted with risky clothes, right?! I'm going to say that if Yoshida did say that, it was more of an excuse to prevent people from asking for something that he personally doesn't feel like adding to the game cause he doesn't care about it. I noticed that in terms of FFXIV that strategy is used extremely often, for basically everything. Either that it's "hardcoded" and the "engine doesn't allow it"...or that there are legal issues with it. These two arguments are used for even the smallest things that are absolutely no issue.

Please, no. For the sake of all children, virtual and real, no. I can already imagine the threads if this gets implemented.
How to Make a Child
How to Adopt a Child
Best Child Stats
Returning Players: How to Reclaim Your Child from the Child Protection Service
Therapy Lounge for Parents

This is not Fire Emblem Awakening

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

fireworks in ff11 let you take the form of child version of the races.

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I think Laerune was talking about playable children in the sense that they could actually do something (fight and all that). The "Costumes" you're talking about couldn't do anything (can't emote I think, can't fight, can't change gear).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I think Laerune was talking about playable children in the sense that they could actually do something (fight and all that). The "Costumes" you're talking about couldn't do anything (can't emote I think, can't fight, can't change gear).

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You are correct, that is what I meant.

I'm not sure why this would be tied into marriage, specifically. It's demonstrably possible to have a marriage with no kids and kids without a marriage (both in reality and in Eorzea). An adoption system would make more sense, especially since it would require less dancing around the evergreen issue of Roegadyn/Lalafell procreation and would allow more players to become involved.

I'm not against it, but I also don't especially mind if they decide it's too risky. I'm happy looking after my Squadron, retainers and wife.