FFXIV Teamcraft - Collaborative crafting made easy

Hello there,

I just released a tool made to help crafters and free company: FFXIV Teamcraft

The purpose of this tool is to create a crafting list and "flatten" the required items, meaning that every required item will be listed, even if it's required by a required item, etc.

It's inspired from ffxivcrafting.com and I added features that I was missing on this website, such as proper i18n support (the website autodetects your language but you can correct it, list links are language-independa,t if you share it to a player who is not speaking your language, it will be displayed in his own language).

UPDATE:

Here is the list of current features as of 2.3.2:

• Search any recipe of the game.
• Handle Free Company crafts (airships, houses, etc).
• Realtime recipe progress management.
• A lot of details on how to get items, including hours of spawn for timed nodes.
• Map marker for npc/gathering node positions.
• Profit computing, know how much a recipe costs you or makes you earn.
• Node timers for timed ones.
• Handle large amount of crafts with exact precision.
• Filter a list for items that you can obtain by yourself, based on your lodestone profile (requires an account).
• Create a full list from a single search (eg. full i320 set for NIN).
• Copy a list, so you can use lists like "full 60-70 leves for WVR" by simply copying them to have your own progression on it.
• Everything except airship sectors is translated in the 4 ingame languages.

The full website code is available on Github, feel free to report issues, feature requests or to contribute (it's made with angular, but far from optimized as I created the base version in a week).

To follow the latest features, please refer to the Changelog.

You can talk with me about new features, bug reports etc on discord: https://discord.gg/r6qxt6P

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ffxivteamcraft

One time donation: https://donorbox.org/ffxiv-teamcraft-funding

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Originally Posted by M1uu

Reserved for future content, 1k chars is not that much :eek:

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You can just edit your first post to avoid the character limit. :-)

I just search for "Grimoire of the True Griffin", and it led me to http://xivdb.com/recipe/32349.
I can't see the "flat out" requirements...

I'm gonna be honest, this just feels like Crafting As A Service, but reskinned. It does the exact same thing, with the exact same layout as that website on the material page. The only thing that is unique are the Lists; if you can make an account and save them, that would be useful. It's also nice that it shows more sources, such as actually displaying that something is purchasable with GC seals.

A bit of feedback:

The icons for mining/botany are just confusing, having them as a plant and then another plant isn't very intuitive, even more confusing when the icons are the same as an item.

It's a bit of a pain to navigate. When I make a list of items, I normally put a whole bunch of things on. I have to first make a List, search for the item, add it to the list by clicking that icon and then clicking on the list I want to put it in, search for the next one, etc. (Also, making a list from the addition window doesn't seem to work) Then, once I have all the items added, I need to click on the menu button in the corner, click on list, change quantities if I need to make more than one, and then finally generate my list. That's an awful lot of clicking.

There's also no way to see the recipe from within your website. I have to navigate to an outside one, which is somewhat frustrating. The layout just overall feels very unintuitive in the name of being very clean. Was it perhaps designed with mobile in mind? I particularly feel that the eye icon you click on to generate the list of materials doesn't really jump out at me as being what I need to click to get the list.

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Originally Posted by Xehmnus

You can just edit your first post to avoid the character limit. :-)

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Oh my god didn't thought of that, that's such a strange thing xD Like "oh you can't add 1k+ chars messages because of... things. But if you edit it and paste the whole bible in it, it's okay.

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Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino

I just search for "Grimoire of the True Griffin", and it led me to http://xivdb.com/recipe/32349.
I can't see the "flat out" requirements...

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That's because you need to add it to a list before seeing the requirements, here is an example list with your item in it: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/list/oTdq...MwzdI9zZyqn4q8

To add an item to a list, search for the item and click the "add" icon on the right side of the element row, then choose the list you want to add the item in or simply create a new one.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

I'm gonna be honest, this just feels like Crafting As A Service, but reskinned. It does the exact same thing, with the exact same layout as that website on the material page. The only thing that is unique are the Lists; if you can make an account and save them, that would be useful. It's also nice that it shows more sources, such as actually displaying that something is purchasable with GC seals.

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As I said, the base inspiration is from Crafting As A Service, but I added missing features to me such as saved progression in realtime (if another player is on the same list as you, he'll see your progression and he'll be able to check items if he is giving you some). I also added FC workshop crafts support, meaning that you can plan your airship/house crafts before you even start them, to have everything needed before you start the craft, example list for that: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/list/oTdq..._sqHUUUHu9uiG_

The ability to create an account is actually on the way, it'll be the next feature for Beta 7 ;)

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Originally Posted by Elamys

The icons for mining/botany are just confusing, having them as a plant and then another plant isn't very intuitive, even more confusing when the icons are the same as an item.

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I don't get what you're talking about, I used the MIN/BTN icons from the game to make it intuitive, but I don't get the "and then another plant" part. I'll update the website soon to add a trade icon button, which will display trade details when you click on it. This will avoid icons that are the same as an item.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

It's a bit of a pain to navigate. When I make a list of items, I normally put a whole bunch of things on. I have to first make a List, search for the item, add it to the list by clicking that icon and then clicking on the list I want to put it in, search for the next one, etc. (Also, making a list from the addition window doesn't seem to work) Then, once I have all the items added, I need to click on the menu button in the corner, click on list, change quantities if I need to make more than one, and then finally generate my list. That's an awful lot of clicking.

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I'll update UX soon following your feedback, what I'm planning on doing is to add a number input field just before the "add to list" button to be able to add a certain amount in the list, then i'll add a "sow list" button to the bottom notification that spawns when an item is added to a list, and I'll also change this eye icon to make it more intuitive (like a "SHOW" button in the pane title).

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Originally Posted by Elamys

There's also no way to see the recipe from within your website. I have to navigate to an outside one, which is somewhat frustrating. The layout just overall feels very unintuitive in the name of being very clean. Was it perhaps designed with mobile in mind? I particularly feel that the eye icon you click on to generate the list of materials doesn't really jump out at me as being what I need to click to get the list.

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Adding a recipe details popup instead of a simple xivdb link is definetly in the roadmap (I should create a roadmap on github ^^), because as you said, it's unintuitive to open an external website while everything is already here. I'm in need of UX feedback like this, even if it's not designed for mobile at the moment, I'm using a material library to ahndle design for me, because css is definetly not my best skill :D

I'm open to any suggestions regarding the overall design of the website, the User eXperience and everything in general, that's also why I create such topics, to gather user feedback :)

Ok, I get it now! A bit more complex than I thought, but it works. This can be useful when a non-crafter asks us to craft things, and wants to know what mats are needed. Thanks!

As said using the announcement system, I'm currently applying a little UX and design patch, following Elamys's feedback because I find his recommendations really useful.

Don't hesitate to give more feedback on it, using either this topic, /r/ffxivteamcraft or github.com/supamiu/ffxiv-teamcraft

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Originally Posted by M1uu

I don't get what you're talking about, I used the MIN/BTN icons from the game to make it intuitive, but I don't get the "and then another plant" part. I'll update the website soon to add a trade icon button, which will display trade details when you click on it. This will avoid icons that are the same as an item.

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I wonder if it was a glitch then. Last night, the icon on the Lists page was a picture of Rosemary's icon, and the one for Mining was a picture of Mandrake. But today, it's the normal icons. Weird.

Anyways, now that I kind of get what you're going for (collaborative crafting) this will be really useful for my FC.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but when I search a recipe and add it to a list, going to the list it'll show 0 items... am I doing something incorrect? Is there an extra step?

There is no extra step but I've found a bug regarding this recently, it should be fixed now but if it's not, please tell me :D

Beta.7 just started, adding user authentication and personal filters (show only what you can craft/gather uppon one button click).

Can you add the ability to make "group listings" for example i want to get a list of all mats required to make a full set of ironworks by "chaining" list items together. Maybe a "add another item" button with a search filter to select the items. Then a final button to "generate list" and a text entry for the list to be named. E.g. I need a lv 70 Crafting Set. I can just go on a tab and find a list of all the mats rather than doing it one at a time. Just an idea to make it more Useful.

I haven't registered yet but it would be nice to see a feature where you can create an online group and have "private" and "shared" tabs for lists so i can just say to my FC members Check this out. Maybe even have a Crafting Rotation Tab to help new crafters out :)

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Originally Posted by pkminer30

Can you add the ability to make "group listings" for example i want to get a list of all mats required to make a full set of ironworks by "chaining" list items together. Maybe a "add another item" button with a search filter to select the items. Then a final button to "generate list" and a text entry for the list to be named. E.g. I need a lv 70 Crafting Set. I can just go on a tab and find a list of all the mats rather than doing it one at a time. Just an idea to make it more Useful.

I haven't registered yet but it would be nice to see a feature where you can create an online group and have "private" and "shared" tabs for lists so i can just say to my FC members Check this out.

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^^This!!! As far as group crafting goes most of the time multiple crafters are doing complete sets so a method of adding more recipes to a set list and having the required mats cascade for the various pieces would be awesome!

I have a few other ideas like getting node.js running and implementing the lokyst simulator into the site for new crafters (maybe collaborate with the owner of it). Make it a 1 stop shop so everything is one place and helps every body :)

A request - if you can, add flat list for entire tiers of the crafting log, e.g. you need XYZ for all entries in 20-25.

As I'm not very active on this forum, if you want to submit feature requests or issues, please use either github: https://github.com/supamiu/ffxiv-teamcraft, the dedicated subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivteamcraft/ or the discord server: https://discord.gg/FjAqC7R.

However, even if I'm a bit late, I'll answer the previous posts :D

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Originally Posted by pkminer30

Can you add the ability to make "group listings" for example i want to get a list of all mats required to make a full set of ironworks by "chaining" list items together. Maybe a "add another item" button with a search filter to select the items. Then a final button to "generate list" and a text entry for the list to be named. E.g. I need a lv 70 Crafting Set. I can just go on a tab and find a list of all the mats rather than doing it one at a time. Just an idea to make it more Useful.

I haven't registered yet but it would be nice to see a feature where you can create an online group and have "private" and "shared" tabs for lists so i can just say to my FC members Check this out. Maybe even have a Crafting Rotation Tab to help new crafters out :)

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I don't understand what you mean by a group listing, currently, you can create a list and add every ironworks item for instance, it'll be your list with all required materials, eg: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/list/N9iJ...V3glcTQhDl48B9

Having a public list system is planned for the future, but I don't have any release date for that, we're currently working on design improvements and new features will come later on (check github issues for a list of planned issues with milestones)

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Originally Posted by pkminer30

I have a few other ideas like getting node.js running and implementing the lokyst simulator into the site for new crafters (maybe collaborate with the owner of it). Make it a 1 stop shop so everything is one place and helps every body :)

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Lokyst simulator implementation can be an idea but it has to be done in full browser Javascript, as teamcraft has 0 backend and the goal is to have none, you can check the github for more informations about how it's written, everything is open source :)

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Originally Posted by Sunspawn

A request - if you can, add flat list for entire tiers of the crafting log, e.g. you need XYZ for all entries in 20-25.

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This is a good idea that might come with the "fork list" feature, this feature will allow you to "copy" a list to your account, coupled with the public list features, it will allow for such things. Adding all recipes for a range of level is a specific feture as it won't be used by a lot of people, but adding job/level filters to the current recipes search field is an option that could maybe be done (not sure tbh, I have to double check this).



If you want to track changes, discuss new features, contribute, etc, feel free to join the discord server, I'm online like 90% of my non-sleeping time.

Re: upgrading and paying for the infrastructure - Patreon is by far the best solution. People already adblock by default and regular donations (paypal and such) are too erratic/people will forget. Patreon is, imo, the best way. It also gives you a platform to communicate to the users of the site.

Your link to the discord above has expired.

I just updated the thread by adding patreon link to it and adding more features, even if we made a lot of fixes since the release.

Features like gathering path optimizer (for costs) are on the way, refer to github issues for more informations about what's planned ;).

EDIT: advanced search is coming too, as Sunspawn requested :D

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Originally Posted by Sunspawn

Re: upgrading and paying for the infrastructure - Patreon is by far the best solution. People already adblock by default and regular donations (paypal and such) are too erratic/people will forget. Patreon is, imo, the best way. It also gives you a platform to communicate to the users of the site.

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I just created a patreon for the resons you listed :D here it is: https://www.patreon.com/ffxivteamcraft

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

Your link to the discord above has expired.

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Sorry, here is a permanent link: https://discord.gg/r6qxt6P

2.0.0 just went live, with new features such as advanced filters (you can filter on ilvl, required lvl to equip, required lvl to craft, etc), bulk import (add every search result to a list) and more details on items !

Didn't take more than a cursory look so far, but seems awesome. Going to take a closer look once I finish getting all DoH to 50.

I updated the main topic. I'm glad to see that people are actually using and enjoying the tool :D

It is also linked on xivdb, the main goal being to change xivdb's list manager by a link to mine, as it's a lot of work for a single person to handle such a tool + a full database and other features.

2.4 is live ! Here is the changelog for it:

Bug Fixes

- adding a recipe to a list breaks after garlandtools changes.
- first list view with cleared cache makes the app crash.
- null uid after registration.


Features

- add amount of craft details next to the amount of items.
- add map markers for every location display.
- add more gifs for new features in home page.
- add more informations about fishs.
- add new counter for the amount of lists created using the tool.
- comments on list rows.
- configurable recipe links.
- IE 10 & 11, Safari 7 & 8 support.
- requirements popup now shows the amount of items required for the remaining crafts.