Expanse Baleen, Synced or Unsynced?

I am trying to get Expanse Baleen so I can craft Endless Expanse Astrometer.

Does anyone know if Expanse Baleen drop from unsynced The Limitless Blue (Extreme)? or do I have to be synced to drop?

you must be synced for it to drop. it's an item that goes into someone's inventory not a loot item. Same goes for Ravana EX and Sephirot EX. After that the crafting items were placed in the treasure chest.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you must be synced for it to drop. it's an item that goes into someone's inventory not a loot item. Same goes for Ravana EX and Sephirot EX. After that the crafting items were placed in the treasure chest.

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This seems like a weird oversight on SE's part. They had previously adjusted the loot of the ARR primals by adding their synced drops to their respective treasure chests, so it's weird for them to not have applied that to those three primals.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you must be synced for it to drop. it's an item that goes into someone's inventory not a loot item. Same goes for Ravana EX and Sephirot EX. After that the crafting items were placed in the treasure chest.

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Not fully true, it will drop even in an unsync'd party, but it's based on your relation with RNGesus that day. You can be lucky and it drops the first time you sync, undersync that trial, or you can be just unlucky and have to run it million times. Either way, I don't deny that maybe the chance is higher on sync'd content, but yet there's no evidence for that, at the end it's all about your luck and patience.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you must be synced for it to drop. it's an item that goes into someone's inventory not a loot item. Same goes for Ravana EX and Sephirot EX. After that the crafting items were placed in the treasure chest.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

Not fully true, it will drop even in an unsync'd party, but it's based on your relation with RNGesus that day. You can be lucky and it drops the first time you sync, undersync that trial, or you can be just unlucky and have to run it million times. Either way, I don't deny that maybe the chance is higher on sync'd content, but yet there's no evidence for that, at the end it's all about your luck and patience.

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Wait, I am hearing conflicting arguments, DrWho2010 says I need to be synced, LunaFaye says I don't need to be...

It has a pretty lousy drop rate. You could just be getting unlucky.

edit - found this post on reddit which suggests that since the baleen drops directly from killing Bismark, doing it unsynched means it will not drop (ARR primal drops are in the chest now so bypass that issue). https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...xpanse_baleen/

I've seen it drop a few times while synced. Unsynced produced no baleens whatsoever in any runs. I want my fat whale minion :(

Old primals, like Mog EX have their crafter mats go into the chest. I don't see why SE wouldn't have done so with the newer primals. Maybe they just haven't done it yet? ;-;

It's very likely an oversight, as nidhogg, sophia, zurvan, susano and lakshmi also come from the chest.

Also Nidhogg's scale drops from unsynced runs. The rest I'm not sure about.

unsynced locks enemy loot that means if it goes straight to your inventory and technically it would be enemy loot even if bismark is a boss so no you would not get it from unsynced you have to do it synced. it even says what unsynced does when you go to set it up, that's why they fixed it for the realm bosses you couldn't get the loot at all.

I do not know about Expanse Baleen, but Hive Forewing does drop from Ravana unsynced straight into your inventory... it just has a horrible drop rate (twice in 131 runs for me). It would seem common sense that the same applies to the Expanse Baleen.

Been farming Ramuh EX unsynced quite a bit lately (I must have all of his weapons, you see) and his regular Levin Orb does indeed drop directly to someone while the Large appears in the box. We've gotten several, but it's pretty rare. We had this happen in Mog EX too because we were after the EX whisker for the mailbox and it refused to drop so we settled for the regular.

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Originally Posted by Rhindas

Been farming Ramuh EX unsynced quite a bit lately (I must have all of his weapons, you see) and his regular Levin Orb does indeed drop directly to someone while the Large appears in the box. We've gotten several, but it's pretty rare. We had this happen in Mog EX too because we were after the EX whisker for the mailbox and it refused to drop so we settled for the regular.

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That seems odd. The lodestone page for the Ramuh trial shows that both the Levin Orb, and the Large Levin Orb, are loot from the treasure box.

Well I got one directly deposited to my inventory over a few runs and the reason I specifically remember is because I was putting the Large orbs on retainers (they're unique) and couldn't figure out how I had two orbs after one fight. It was because one dropped to me.

If we get the chance to run again, I'll screenshot it, but it won't be immediate.

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Clarity, I typed "two" twice...

I meant it as, the Levin Orb shouldn't be limited to just direct drops, since it also shows up as being part of the treasure coffer's loot table, on the lodestone page.

From what I've been hearing, HW primal drops differently from ARR and SB primals. Which is unfortunate since the item I want comes from a HW primal.

It also doesn't help that then drop rates are abysmal...

How SE will fix this soon...