As a minority, is it out of the question to hope for representation?

Promo art? Cats/Lizards
Trailers? ^
Just about everything to the XIV name? ^^^

Elezen if you're lucky, and Hyur if it's something general.

Where's the Roe?

Lalas are always there for the extreme cute, but seriously where's the Roe? Even moreso the females. I think the countdown art only included one because someone realized that they had to do something different at some point. And I dont think I've ever seen a female highlander used. But given stormblood, they at least have a presence.

I get femRoe aren't popular especially in EU/JP. But there was an effort to create them, so why are they shafted into the shed of no return?

why do some people care so much about whether some dumb artwork for an event contains their race or not?
You're here to play the game,arent you? Log into the game and you can stare at your femroe all day.

Also, from what I know, femroes and catboys didnt even exist in 1.0 and were solely added because part of the player base asked for them.


Also: dont try the "but youre a miqote and miqote are presented everywhere" card on me. I dont give a flying f*** about it. Tbh,i find most FFXIV artwork to be mediocre at best compared to some other games.

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Originally Posted by Clethoria

Promo art? Cats/Lizards
Trailers? ^
Just about everything to the XIV name? ^^^

Elezen if you're lucky, and Hyur if it's something general.

Where's the Roe?

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+1 Totally in agreement with this, I was pretty disappointed to not see Roe ladies and gents in the trailer for SB, I will say this though...

In addition: Jybril, thank you, you expressed what I struggled to say why I personally care, to a tee :)

Spoiler for SB storyline AND the SB trailer

I thought Gotsetsu was a Roe when I saw him in the trailer... I'm assmuing that was him and Yugiri on the rooftop in Kugane? I'm also assuming that Gotsetsu is a cross between Roe and Hyur? :)

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

why do some people care so much about whether some dumb artwork for an event contains their race or not?
You're here to play the game,arent you? Log into the game and you can stare at your femroe all day.

Also, from what I know, femroes and catboys didnt even exist in 1.0 and were solely added because part of the player base asked for them.


Also: dont try the "but youre a miqote and miqote are presented everywhere" card on me. I dont give a flying f*** about it. Tbh,i find most FFXIV artwork to be mediocre at best compared to some other games.

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Weren't you the one trying hard to defend Elezen and how they look in a "Why does no one play Elezen" topic, and here you are, now a cat...
So I dunno why you're lashing out at Clethoria. I find Roe woman beautiful. I want to see more fanart or art in general with them.
One does get weary of seeing cats upon cats in so much art so I do wish they changed it up a bit.
I like to see more art in general besides Miqote's. They are everywhere!

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I thought Gotsetsu was a Roe when I saw him in the trailer... I'm assmuing that was him and Yugiri on the rooftop in Kugane? I'm also assuming that Gotsetsu is a cross between Roe and Hyur? :)

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Gosetsu is just a regular Othardian Roegadyn with a unique face model.

Forum wont let me post with less than 10 characters.

Ah I should know that by now! Derp, cheers Enur!

I just wish I saw more FemRoe's in the game, period. You're all so gorgeous, why you hide from me? :(

Games like this have a certain player base that they want to appeal to. Catgirls and adorable lalas are more appealing to this demographic than Roes, so they are on more stuff.

Yes.

Uhm, btw, not to go off-topic or anything but that signature picture of your is really disturbing. Everything alright?

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Weren't you the one trying hard to defend Elezen and how they look in a "Why does no one play Elezen" topic, and here you are, now a cat...
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I fantasia and change race every now and then. What does your statement have to do with mine?`

I love how elezen faces look, but sometimes the small head to broad shoulder ratio becomes too much for me so I change. Which is also the one thing I keep saying whenever theres a topic about elezen.
So basically, NO, I am not one of those trying hard to defend Elezen the way they are because i criticize some of their features.


I also wanna clarify that I am not against femroes on artwork or anything. I honestly dont care. I just think its silly to make a post about it to complain.
You dont play the game cos of some artwork,do you? (general question, not pointing specifically at *YOU*)

Huh? I barely see Au Ra in anything. For Miqo'te you only just see Y'shtola in trailers but that's about it.
Lalafell, Miqo'te (of course) and Hyur get the most presence if anything.

Female rose's have the admiral. One of the best leaders of the three nations.
Til sea swallows all!

But FemRoes are prevalent, both in game and artwork, just look at the countdown art or the beach scenes. Granted since we lost Moenbryda (snifle) there arent any main story femroes besides Merlwyb. But they are there. And if you ask about the femroes, why not ask about the Manco'tes too. They have no main characters in the Main Story.

I'm glad there are no catboys in the MSQ. Their smug auras mock me.

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But FemRoes are prevalent, both in game and artwork, just look at the countdown art or the beach scenes. Granted since we lost Moenbryda (snifle) there arent any main story femroes besides Merlwyb. But they are there. And if you ask about the femroes, why not ask about the Manco'tes too. They have no main characters in the Main Story.

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Maybe not in the MSQ, but the story of the Crystal Tower raids had a Mancote as the main protagonist/hero of the tale.

I dont understand why it is such a big deal what race is in these artworks. For me it matters 0 what is drawn there but the rewards for the events.

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

I dont understand why it is such a big deal what race is in these artworks. For me it matters 0 what is drawn there but the rewards for the events.

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Bolded, for you.

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Originally Posted by whiteblade89

Maybe not in the MSQ, but the story of the Crystal Tower raids had a Mancote as the main protagonist/hero of the tale.

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But thats a side quest, that not many people may have done. But every race and gender has been depicted in the MSQ except a male Miqo'te. We even have Garlean Main Characters who are male and female, and they are not villians either.

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Originally Posted by Clethoria

Bolded, for you.

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Yeah but I still dont get the deal about it.

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

Yeah but I still dont get the deal about it.

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I'm not taking a side in this argument, but just wanted to point out that you don't get the deal about it because you don't care about it, ya dig?

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I'm not taking a side in this argument, but just wanted to point out that you don't get the deal about it because you don't care about it, ya dig?

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The OP could explain what exactly is the problem with it or why they are. From their OP I dont see what exactly is the issue.
Oh well whatever. Doubt they will change the poster race Cat anyway.

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

why do some people care so much about whether some dumb artwork for an event contains their race or not?
You're here to play the game,arent you? Log into the game and you can stare at your femroe all day.

Also, from what I know, femroes and catboys didnt even exist in 1.0 and were solely added because part of the player base asked for them.


Also: dont try the "but youre a miqote and miqote are presented everywhere" card on me. I dont give a flying f*** about it. Tbh,i find most FFXIV artwork to be mediocre at best compared to some other games.

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

I dont understand why it is such a big deal what race is in these artworks. For me it matters 0 what is drawn there but the rewards for the events.

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If you didn't really care, why'd you post? :think:

Anyways, it's August!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen.../roevember.png

I love the artist's work on the seasonal posters and would love to see more Roegadames. At least we Valentine's day.

You know something i find semi-ironic that i just realized. The OP was basically indicating a lack of race depictions in event posters, specifically the faire, and specifically pointing out Ries and Elezens. But this is last years poster...
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/...3136_thumb.png

Now my eyes might be playing tricks on me, but isnt that a Roe and an Elezen? And i think a highlander woman, but dont quote me.

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

Yeah but I still dont get the deal about it.

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Maybe we'd just like to see more FemRoes because we like how they look?
There are tones and tones of artworks from kittens, but few include FemRoes. Why is it so unreasonable to ask for a change there? If you like something that isnt reperesented, what would you do? The clever thing is: ask for it to change!

(Bit offtopic, but maybe a fitting example: My dad used to go to a pizza-place close to his office, but since he doesnt eat to much, he could never finish his pizza. So he asked the owner "Hey, could you make smaller pizzas aswell?" and the next week he was greeted by the owner, waving a smaller pizza pan, telling him: "Here, now you can have small pizza!" A few other customers liked that aswell and even if the majority stuck to the normal sized pizza it made my dad a very happy customer! Because he asked for something that he'd liked to see even if the majority maybe wouldnt want that.)

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One year's artwork totally invalidates every other year being catgirl appreciation year.

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Now my eyes might be playing tricks on me, but isnt that a Roe and an Elezen? And i think a highlander woman, but dont quote me.

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If my eyes arent playing tricky on me thats a male Roe (and a male Elezen while we're at it)...

Femroe was a mistake. Also great thread tag OP.

Hopefully this time around this discussion won't die thanks to another ongoing debate. I'm sort of glad you didn't forget about it.

Unfortunatly we are a minority and SE plays the statistics game.

Also there are plenty of people who despite not playing roe actually like the way they look and appreciate it, even if they feel like they suck at making decent looking roes and therefore end up not playing them.

Also to try and explain to some people why this is important.... you play a game, you are a fan of it, therefore you tend to enjoy everything related to the game, that includes artwork, plushies, cakes, etc. If you happen to be particularly found of a race and you never see it in the artwork of the game you like you get a bit... disappointed. Makes you wonder why is it even in the game in the first place if it's pretty much forgotten when it comes to everything else.

Also if femroes exist due to players demand then why ignore it afterwards? I mean for them to change it there must have been quite a lot of requests cuz otherwise they wouldn't have bothered, no? o.O

I complain about this every time an event rolls around to my boyfriend. Him and I both play FemRoes and we'd love some representation outside of countdowns. The odds of that happening are slim though since we're such a minority.

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Yes.

Uhm, btw, not to go off-topic or anything but that signature picture of your is really disturbing. Everything alright?

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It's Gutsman!

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Originally Posted by Clethoria

Promo art? Cats/Lizards
Trailers? ^
Just about everything to the XIV name? ^^^

Elezen if you're lucky, and Hyur if it's something general.

Where's the Roe?

Lalas are always there for the extreme cute, but seriously where's the Roe? Even moreso the females. I think the countdown art only included one because someone realized that they had to do something different at some point. And I dont think I've ever seen a female highlander used. But given stormblood, they at least have a presence.

I get femRoe aren't popular especially in EU/JP. But there was an effort to create them, so why are they shafted into the shed of no return?

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You tell em sister!

Funny how people go "if it doesn't matter for me then it shouldn't matter to anyone period"
Thank you for bringing up the same topic I brought up last year Clethoria.

We're brave and strong enough to stand for what we believe in.

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

The OP could explain what exactly is the problem with it or why they are. From their OP I dont see what exactly is the issue.
Oh well whatever. Doubt they will change the poster race Cat anyway.

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That they want to see more official artwork involving other races.

I, too, am very tired of seeing ladycats everywhere, ESPECIALLY when it's ALWAYS ladycats in revealing/sexy outfits. (want more boycats but I think femroes come first in this situation.)

The calendar for this month was a breath of fresh air, although when the events are all ladycatladycatladycat it gets a bit tiresome.

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

I fantasia and change race every now and then. What does your statement have to do with mine?`

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The first response was because you were talking about Elezen and you obviously cared about how they look and the topic no one really played them much
on how they look...Well, same thing here, people just want a little more love to their Races. Whether for you Elezen proportions, and Roes, more exposure in art.
No one in that topic was attacking you or cursing about it...I just don't know why your post came off kinda aggressive.
People play Femroes or Maleroes and would like to see them in more artwork. It may be silly for you but
this is a forum and there's no harm in discussing or asking for more art for other races.
I don't know why you and Kling are confused by such as seen below.

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Yeah but I still dont get the deal about it.

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Yeah but I still dont get the deal about it.

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Appeal to every player by including every race in promotional art, rather than just focusing on the token cute race (FFXI was fairly balanced in this regard, as there's a fair amount of promotional art including the Galka and they look adorable).

I've posted it before, but here's the very first seasonal event art for FFXIV:ARR
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...fire_Faire.png

What's a femroe?

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I, too, am very tired of seeing ladycats everywhere, ESPECIALLY when it's ALWAYS ladycats in revealing/sexy outfits. (want more boycats but I think femroes come first in this situation.)

The calendar for this month was a breath of fresh air, although when the events are all ladycatladycatladycat it gets a bit tiresome.

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Good thing it's not only just ladycats all the time then, eh? :p

http://i.imgur.com/z7MYMBm.png
http://i.imgur.com/50OW57I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wog4vJz.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ss7Agtb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GTR6CFa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TtsEcQP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yQINbJb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/klAfbx2.jpg
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/...3136_thumb.png
http://i.imgur.com/XvK41Wk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KgqD7QU.png
http://i.imgur.com/INLv7O4.jpg

Yes, there are a handful of events that do feature only a miqo, but it really isn't all that many. Also, I will say there is absolutely a glaring lack of Roegadyn, male or female, in the art.

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I, too, am very tired of seeing ladycats everywhere, ESPECIALLY when it's ALWAYS ladycats in revealing/sexy outfits. (want more boycats but I think femroes come first in this situation.)

The calendar for this month was a breath of fresh air, although when the events are all ladycatladycatladycat it gets a bit tiresome.

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New initiative: All Ananta, all the time.