More wards?

Do they have any plans to add new wards in the future? I don't mean new areas like Kugane, just more than 12 wards to existing residential areas.

I ask because it's basically impossible to acquire housing on my server so you're SOL if you wanted a house at this point... :\

30 plots per area(standard and subdivision) per ward per region with shirogane it becomes 2880 total plots. With shirogane 720 more plots will be added

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Originally Posted by Mirch

30 plots per area(standard and subdivision) per ward per region with shirogane it becomes 2880 total plots. With shirogane 720 more plots will be added

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Not what he's asking.

SE has said they will add more housing in the future, but it remains to be seen when.

No plans thus far for additional wards have been divulged. Likely they'll wait until Shirogane is filled up before even looking into it. It's always a very slow process.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

30 plots per area(standard and subdivision) per ward per region with shirogane it becomes 2880 total plots. With shirogane 720 more plots will be added

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...And every single one is unavailable on my server, yes.

Or are you suggesting that not being among the first 2,280 people on the server means you have no right to own a house? :P

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Originally Posted by RichardButte

...And every single one is unavailable on my server, yes.

Or are you suggesting that not being among the first 2,280 people on the server means you have no right to own a house? :P

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The official given reason currently is the servers and bandwidth available do not allow for expansion of current wards. this may change later as resources and users change.
I don't think anyone said you didn't have any rights to anything.
Keep checking housing listings on the hour, people quit, subs lapse and plots become available occasionally.
yes it is a limited resource... nobody except the devs know why this decision was made exactly.

Something something server space

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Originally Posted by RichardButte

I ask because it's basically impossible to acquire housing on my server so you're SOL if you wanted a house at this point... :\

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I feel your pain, i'm probably going to "work" from home on patch day when Kugane opens up just so i can try and jump on a plot in that ward.

One of the other problems that I'm surprised I haven't seen here is the fact of the different regions and themes of each zone.

If I'm looking to owning a Personal House I like to see all the zone around and the location itself. And that fact can be go from "I'd love to have my house near Mist's beach" to "I want my home in Mist, I hate the japanese enviroment or architecture of Shirogane".

Even if they add 3, 4 or 5 new zones with the basic wards, there will be people that will have to live in places they don't really like just to have a house because the regions or places that they really love have been occupied years ago.

Just imagine Shirogane in a month or 2.

Wasn't the excuse for a while "PS3 won't be able to handle it" or something?

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Originally Posted by Earnest_Hollow

If I'm looking to owning a Personal House I like to see all the zone around and the location itself. And that fact can be go from "I'd love to have my house near Mist's beach" to "I want my home in Mist, I hate the japanese enviroment or architecture of Shirogane".

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I don't like the Shirogane area, but it will be the only option for a house on Hyperion come 4.1 unless more wards are offered. I really wish they would have been able to work in the Ishgard residential area and still hope they will at some point. I'd front cash if they kick-started that.

I really do wish they'd increase the amount of wards in the original three housing areas!

Shirogane is gorgeous, it's true, but I run a fairly active RP FC that regularly holds events. We want to stay in the Goblet for a number of reasons, despite really also wanting a Large plot and having the means to, when it's time for the mad housing dash of 4.1

1st reason: In Character - the FC is based in Thanalan. It makes no sense for us to pack up and move to Shirogane. The only way I'd be considering an ic-character move is if/when we get the Ishgard housing we've been told hasn't been totally ruled out.

2nd reason: A Shirogane plot drastically limits the amount of people that can come visit us when we host open RP nights and public events. Howso, you ask? Well, Shirogane is MSQ locked, unlike the other three housing zones.

No, this level-lock isn't a problem if you're in our FC (or are in an FC with a shirogane house) but is inaccessible to every other low-level toon that might want to stop in to RP. (Unless we eventually get a ferry directly from Limsa or something, which would be nice.)

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Originally Posted by Nalette

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Camp the Goblet for a house when people start moving, plots will open up.

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Originally Posted by Nalette

2nd reason: A Shirogane plot drastically limits the amount of people that can come visit us when we host open RP nights and public events. Howso, you ask? Well, Shirogane is MSQ locked, unlike the other three housing zones.

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Yoshi had already stated that the Shirogane district wouldn't be locked behind the MSQ. I'd assume there will be some way to travel there, from the other cities, once the housing actually becomes available for purchase.

I think you do have to unlock the Shirogane housing for your level but if your FC or you share an estate with someone who is under level or hasn't unlocked it they can still teleport to the area from what I have gathered.. But who knows. No real word on it and I have doubts in getting more wards any time soon. =/

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Yoshi had already stated that the Shirogane district wouldn't be locked behind the MSQ.

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If you have updated information, please do share, but I believe this is still the latest:

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Originally Posted by Sicycre

Greetings housing enthusiasts!

We've seen some questions pop up since Fan Festival 2017 in Frankfurt where the new residential housing district, Shirogane, was revealed. We'd like to take some time to answer those questions here.

• Can anyone enter Shirogane if they enlist in a free company that has a house there?

  Yes, they can. Any free company member will be able to teleport to the free company house located in Shirogane, so don't forget to set up the miniature aetheryte in your yard! However, please note that players who do not meet the necessary conditions, such as those that haven't entered Shirogane on their own, or those who have not purchased Stormblood will not be able to exit the housing districts to reach the connected areas!

• How would one reach Shirogane on their own?

  You will need to progress in the Stormblood main scenario.

• How would one be able to purchase a plot or an apartment in Shirogane?

  You will need to progress in the Stormblood main scenario. However, as Yoshida mentioned during the keynote, we're planning to make the purchase of land and apartments in Shirogane available after some time has passed since Patch 4.0 release.

We hope you're all looking forward to the new housing area! I know I am~! :cool:

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So basically it's gated off and if you don't meet requirements to get there normally you can only teleport in/out.

There is an airship landing in Kugane, I assume people will be able to fly to Kugane soon(tm)

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

If you have updated information, please do share, but I believe this is still the latest:



So basically it's gated off and if you don't meet requirements to get there normally you can only teleport in/out.

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Thank you. This is the latest information I have as well -- so I'm not certain where this other info is coming from, and I keep pretty on top of it all.

I'd love a source if possible, Nezerius?

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Originally Posted by Nalette

Thank you. This is the latest information I have as well -- so I'm not certain where this other info is coming from, and I keep pretty on top of it all.

I'd love a source if possible, Nezerius?

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He only stated access would not be restricted. As was earlier outlined, if you can get there by port you're good. The grace period between SB launch and Shirogane plots becoming available for purchase was to allow all new players the chance for a lot. We have received no alternative information as far as I have heard.. and I spend a lot of time combing the news for housing release information.
IT's a bummer for people who just want out of server visitors and low level RP alts to join them, but it does make sense lore wise.Also as was mentioned earlier, FC's moving (and please oh please let me move my personal house too) will open up lots in the "classical" areas, so if you're itching for more main city lots I'd camp them when the new housing releases.

BUT.. considering how much of a chance this is to mix things up and implement new policies and methods, I'd keep reading the news till the process is officially announced. Who knows.. maybe they'll have a "lottery" for the moving houses.

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Yes, I know all of this, which is why I outlined the issues I have with this approach to Shirogane in my own original post in this thread, which I think is fair for me to do.

I understand RPers aren't a huge consideration when they are designing content - but occasionally pointing out why something might not work for a particular subset of players, especially when housing is already such a limited and often frustrating commodity is also fair. And while camping the current areas is indeed entirely possible, there's no real guarantee any will open up. I will likely have a better shot at a Shirogane Large than the hope that a Goblet one will open up (which feels amusing to say, as I know it's really no one's favorite) on Balmung during the rush. Who knows, maybe someone else with an FC will want to trade lots.

Nezerius's answer, however, seems to be contradicting what is already known -- which is why I am asking them for a source / quote. Possibly spreading misinformation isn't a good thing and will just lead to more frustration! :)

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Originally Posted by Nalette

Nezerius's answer, however, seems to be contradicting what is already known -- which is why I am asking for a source / quote. Possibly spreading misinformation isn't a good thing and will just lead to more frustration! :)

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The information is right in worldofneil's post:

"Yes, they can. Any free company member will be able to teleport to the free company house located in Shirogane, so don't forget to set up the miniature aetheryte in your yard! However, please note that players who do not meet the necessary conditions, such as those that haven't entered Shirogane on their own, or those who have not purchased Stormblood will not be able to exit the housing districts to reach the connected areas!"

If my post were actual misinformation, non-SB players wouldn't have been able to get there at all.
Although it does require some initiative of RP FCs to ferry non-SB players over to Shirogane, in a way of a quick invite, to allow teleporting over (after which they're free to leave, and still be able to move around Shirogane). Will that really be such a difficult thing to do, with 12 wards?

That said, I'll edit my earlier post to reflect the part that I assumed wrongly (though anything before that doesn't contradict the above quote )

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

The information is right in worldofneil's post:

Although it does require some initiative of RP FCs to ferry non-SB players over to Shirogane, in a way of a quick invite, to allow teleporting over (after which they're free to leave, and still be able to move around Shirogane). Will that really be such a difficult thing to do, with 12 wards?

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Oof. That's going to be asking a lot of folks. We host an open clinic night every other week, and asking folks to leave their fc, then join ours to attend for a few hours, and then leave it again, and then rejoin their own fc, isn't just initiative, it's going to be jumping through hoops that will probably get really old, really quick! It's possible, but when you're already hosting what ends up being a surprisingly busy and fast-paced event, juggling invites adds a layer of stress.

Nevermind that some folks on lower-level alts may not even attempt to attend, knowing there's no easy way of getting there!

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That said, I'll edit my earlier post to reflect the part that I assumed wrongly (though anything before that doesn't contradict the above quote )

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And it's ok! Intent sometimes gets lost in text! (and honestly I was hoping a little bit that there had been additional information out there that I had missed, that would make shirogane more accessible.)

I imagine a good chunk of people have fc rooms on Balmung as well with both housing and apartments being filled to the brim, so asking someone to throw away 300k + furniture to hop over for an event probably wouldn't go over well. :) It would be nice if they restricted purchases behind the msq lock and just allowed people to take a boat/airship over to Shirogane. Even allowing people to teleport to your personal/fc house without being a tenant/fc member (higher cost of course) via the search/friend list/fc info window would alleviate the issue. :D

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I imagine a good chunk of people have fc rooms on Balmung as well with both housing and apartments being filled to the brim, so asking someone to throw away 300k + furniture to hop over for an event probably wouldn't go over well. :) It would be nice if they restricted purchases behind the msq lock and just allowed people to take a boat/airship over to Shirogane. Even allowing people to teleport to your personal/fc house without being a tenant/fc member (higher cost of course) via the search/friend list/fc info window would alleviate the issue. :D

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I hadn't even thought about losing FC rooms!

Oh, so they will add more housing in the future? Good. I'm really new and jumped on a newer server and all of the houses in the areas I've checked are already gone which is a bummer. Not that I can afford one now but I'm hopeful that by the time I can I'll be able to find one. Housing is one of the main draws for me with this game. I don't need it but it's definitely a very nice perk that I'm looking forward to. As long as they add more at some point then I'll be happy. I don't mind waiting. I still need some time to save up. Housing here seems to take a page out of Horizons playbook. They also had houses in different locations but had a much better system for auctioning off houses that were no longer being used. Of course that game wasn't as big as this one so there is that. Aww, I miss my flying dragon in Horizons or Empire of Istaria. Not even sure if the game is still going. I bet it's pretty dated looking now.

From what's been discussed yes there will be new houses in the next patch. As to how they are to be purchased we're not being told until last minute to give first-time buyers and people genuinely wanting to move to a new plot a fighting chance to be able to do so because, you know, humans. :P