Lamentations of a Staticless Player

- Can't play Tuesday during RL commitments.


- Log on shortly after midnight and find out most PUG groups have cleared O1S and are at O2S. Begin to have sense of dread that the train has left the station...

- Learn all O1S mechanics and find out fire rotation and boss attacks always occur in the same sequence. Explain this to PUG groups.

-Baffled when folks are frozen/dont know what to do when someone is "in their spot," explain that just understand the mechanic and you won't go mental over cardinal directions (just don't stack on people for lightning). Also note that people can move for about 3 seconds after ice to adjust.

- Fail to clear before dawn, realize that everyone who is capable of clearing O1S has done so already on Tuesday. Realize that I'm now terminally behind the curve and trapped in a vicious cycle of PUG hell because next week, the people who already cleared will make "no bonus" parties.

- Resigned to waiting, like Sir Jorah, for the "cure," waiting for the remainder of the field to overgear and have echo to get past O1S and "progress" on content long done by everyone else by that point. The nights are long and full of terrors.

You aren't the only person in game who didn't/couldn't clear on Tuesday. Make a clear party in PF if you're not seeing any.

Make friends?

Already one day behind, I would just give up raiding at this point.

Make your own clear party in PF and find some people like you who haven't cleared it day one. There are many out there like you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zarabeth

Make friends?

---

This.

There's going to be content in this game that is only doable with a regular group that knows how to synergize well and is communicating on a voice chat of some kind.

If not, then all content would be a joke to the aforementioned type of group and people would complain that it's all too easy.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Atlas-04

Already one day behind, I would just give up raiding at this point.

---

Might as well give away all your gil too; I mean, if you're this late to the party on Savage, who knows how far behind you'll be in the Shirogane housing race? The "no slow loaders" PFs will be brutal.

I'm not touching savage yet, I have WAR to level. Once I gear it I'll start.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RichardButte

This.

There's going to be content in this game that is only doable with a regular group that knows how to synergize well and is communicating on a voice chat of some kind.

If not, then all content would be a joke to the aforementioned type of group and people would complain that it's all too easy.

---

That's honestly nonsense, Voice chat should never be a requirement to do content in a game, and isn't in this one either. some planning in the chat box you see at the bottom left goes a long way.

Also the kind of player who constantly complains about content being "too easy" will NEVER be happy, so there's no point trying to please those people.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sylvina

That's honestly nonsense, Voice chat should never be a requirement to do content in a game, and isn't in this one either. some planning in the chat box you see at the bottom left goes a long way.

Also the kind of player who constantly complains about content being "too easy" will NEVER be happy, so there's no point trying to please those people.

---

You don't have to use voice to raid, it's just easier for some. However, you can still make friends, join an fc, or make a linkshell of your own and get the content done. I really don't understand this mentality of not bothering to even try get people together to get things done and then come to complain on the boards.

I thought this would've been about not doing savage :thinking:, especially since you don't have a static.

A happy ending, grouped up with 6 people I met last night plus a really good Samurai from Zalera server and cleared in 2 runs. Still baffling how people don't understand that O1S has the same dam fire rotation, same attacks over and over. Well, glad I'm out of raid hell and back in the land of the living. Godspeed to anyone still trying to pug O1S clears...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zarabeth

Make friends?

---

FYI a static doesn't mean friends. Static means you can devote work related hours to FFXIV to clear content for digital rewards.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chiramu

FYI a static doesn't mean friends. Static means you can devote work related hours to FFXIV to clear content for digital rewards.

---

You're missing the point. If you don't have a static make some friends and do it together.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zarabeth

You're missing the point. If you don't have a static make some friends and do it together.

---

Friends don't mean everyone wants to do Savage or have the time to do Savage. You missed my point.

The entire raid model is sort of broken for certain players because end game has always been driven by efficiency. The further someone delves down the rabbit hole the worse it gets.

I cleared on Wednesday, so it is doable. I reckon O2S will be worse though

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zarabeth

You don't have to use voice to raid, it's just easier for some. However, you can still make friends, join an fc, or make a linkshell of your own and get the content done. I really don't understand this mentality of not bothering to even try get people together to get things done and then come to complain on the boards.

---

Oh that's not my mentality at all. I'm in a FC and we often talk on voice and use it when we run dungeons and raids. I just don't believe voice should ever be an absolute requirement.

Quick guide to clearing any fight via PF:

1.) Read a guide or watch a video. Even if you feel better learning in the fight itself, it is much better to have some understanding of what you're getting yourself into instead of just going in blind.

2.) Create a learning party. You can choose to join one, but this then gives up any control to the leader of the group - you're now playing by their rules and you could end up kicked and having to go looking again. I personally find it a lot easier to just create my own and set my rules. Make sure everyone knows it's a learning party, not a clear or a farm - you are there to learn the fight, even if you feel confident after reading or watching a guide you still need to experience the fight.

3.) If you don't have a Discord server, get one. There's other options but Discord is the most popular atm. I saw earlier in this thread that someone said voice chat isn't "a requirement". It's not mandatory, but it is 100% guaranteed to speed up your clear time by a massive margin. Also, if you don't have a mic get one because it's going to be important for step 4.

4.) Once you're comfortable with the fight, create a clear party. Clear means C L E A R, not learning. Only accept people who've made it as far as you have, which should be at or near the final phase. In this clear party that you made, you're the leader, which means you're doing call-outs. You learned the fight so now all you have to do is call out the mechanics. Keep in mind that every fight in this entire game is scripted - meaning that even if there's a point where the boss could do X, Y, or Z he'll still always do X, Y, or Z at that point in the phase. If you don't feel confident in this, repeatedly join learning parties and call out stuff to yourself.

4.5) In the clear party, you need to be strict. If someone clearly doesn't belong then kick them. This is a clear party, not a learning party. Don't make exceptions or you'll be on this fight forever. It's important to make friends so you can continue going on to clear more things and maybe even putting together a static, but you don't want to be in a static with people who confuse clear parties with learning parties. Once you've formed a group that can actually clear, just keep banging your head against it until you win.

This will work for any fight at all as long as you have the patience. A lot of people want to clear fights but don't want to put in the effort to actually do it, they'll either not try at all or do stupid stuff like joining clear parties hoping for a carry. If you want to clear a fight then you have to put in the work to actually get it done. Anyone can do this and the more you do it the easier it'll be. You'll make friends and have connections to get stuff done at a much quicker pace. But you have to try - if you don't put in the effort, you won't get the results.

Also, one final note: Learn your job and learn to optimize. The better you are at your job, the more valuable you are to your team.

Yea if you miss the day one train you will get stuck with the bads so although I like to take my time I rushed and finished O1s Tuesday and then to be sadly greeted with the bads in O2s because that day one train is on O3s and O4s lol so I feel your pain if my job didn't take up so much time I probably would be much further

But it's like like Susano and Lakshmi extreme, during EA and the beginning of the patch those fights were super easy ppl were clearing it left and right now if you join susano extreme you may contemplate suicide because of how bad even the farm parties are

I ran O1S blind earlier to fill for a healer in my FC. I'm pretty dense with mechanics for the most part, but managed to clear it on like the fourth or fifth pull. Knowing the fight now, I think it's very PUG-able, you just have to give everyone set positions like with Thordan (when it was current).

Been there, done that. You are #%###ed
Happy to be in static!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Auteur

-

-Baffled when folks are frozen/dont know what to do when someone is "in their spot," explain that just understand the mechanic and you won't go mental over cardinal directions (just don't stack on people for lightning). Also note that people can move for about 3 seconds after ice to adjust.

- Fail to clear before dawn, realize that everyone who is capable of clearing O1S has done so already on Tuesday. Realize that I'm now terminally behind the curve and trapped in a vicious cycle of PUG hell because next week, the people who already cleared will make "no bonus" parties.

- Resigned to waiting, like Sir Jorah, for the "cure," waiting for the remainder of the field to overgear and have echo to get past O1S and "progress" on content long done by everyone else by that point. The nights are long and full of terrors.

---

Everyone who is able to clear 01S has generally already done so. Your best bet is to find a static of decent people or gamble in pf. The new raids aren't at the midas/gordias level, so it's not as crazy as it could have been. However, I still wouldn't trust pugs.

I missed the first 2 weeks of Alex creator savage due to vacation and was still able to get clears on them on PUG and that was before the cross world PF, I think your over reacting a little these fights are even easier so I am sure you can find people to clear it with.