Feral beast race?

Would love to see a feral beast race, bored of neko's and weird lizard people...

A burmecian race like from FFXIV would be sweet and doesn't really need much work with armors and stuff. As for how many people that would be interested... everyone always fantasia to the latest race anyway to check it out. Always played beast races in WoW and other MMO's like the Tauren / Worgen "WoW", Charr "Guildwars", Chua "Wildstar"..

http://atma.lost-edens.com/albums/us...Burmecians.jpg

Before the anti-furries start hating, i like creativity :)

Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, it's written into the lore that beast tribes can't be playable races due to the whole Warrior of Light thing and beast tribes cannot be warriors of light, since each beast tribe has a primal attachment to them (often one group for, one against said primal), but their fates are intertwined. As a result, adding a feral beast race would work in a similar vain to beast tribes and would therefore break a lot of lore.

Not only that, but due to the way that FFXIV handles armour and clothing, they can't use anything other than variants of existing races as attempting to make it fit those new proportions would be too much. It's why Au Ra are basically Hyurs with horns and scales.

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Don't think that's enough of a reason, considering the events of Baelsar's Wall. That is unless you want to start considering Hyur as some sort of Beast Tribe. =P

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GG. Retconned my own first point by not fully understanding the lore. There is something regarding the warrior of light and feral races though that prevents them from happening. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the lore can expand on that point for me.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, it's written into the lore that beast tribes can't be playable races due to the whole Warrior of Light thing and beast tribes cannot be warriors of light, since each beast tribe has a primal attachment to them (often one group for, one against said primal), but their fates are intertwined. As a result, adding a feral beast race would work in a similar vain to beast tribes and would therefore break a lot of lore.

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Don't think that's enough of a reason, considering the events of Baelsar's Wall. That is unless you want to start considering Hyur as some sort of Beast Tribe. =P

Thats weird, the Au Ra was made a playable race out of the blue... even miqo'te's are considered warriors of light... Beast tribes and other beast races can always be split up by any means... I don't see how beasts should always worship a primal...

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Originally Posted by Windwalker

doesn't really need much work with armors and stuff.

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Except that they absolutely do need to work with armors and thus will never happen.

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Originally Posted by Windwalker

Thats weird, the Au Ra was made a playable race out of the blue... even miqo'te's are considered warriors of light... Beast tribes and other beast races can always be split up by any means... I don't see how beasts should always worship a primal...

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To call Miqotes and AuRa a beast race is just plain wrong. They both look very human. Beastmen tribes may have humanoid forms but none of them even look human. To be fair to you, even humans can summon a primal as we've seen on 2 occasions.

SE needs to first address the issue with current races by adding in an equal amount of options to the CC.

Stormblood managed to toss every previous rule and excuse to us lacking more beastly races right out the window.

The whole super animalistic race rule being undoable because "differences" got tossed with the Lupin. They live among the Domans as regulars. Even the beast tribe murdering Garleans conscript them with the rest, insofar as to make a unit for them. Their theiving group in Yanxia smacks of the same treatment as the Coeurlclaws and Redbellies of the Shroud. So, they is a precidence against that. And they are STRAIGHT UP wolf furries.

The tribal belief rules got muddy with the Xeala tribes. Each tribe is extremely faithful to their personal doctrine, and said belief systems vary wildly with only a few similar factors. The only thing keeping the Dawn Father and Dusk Mother from being primals is name alone, especially with the Oromir. These people live and die faith harder than some of the actual beast tribes.

The Ananta fudge appearance rules as hard as the Lupin do, but still consider themselves a seperate kind of personhood from the spoken races. "Ala Mhigo belongs to man and ananta once more."

It's most likely got less to do with lore rules and more to do with the fact that Japanese audiences don't typical enjoy furry races as much as Western ones do. They're not as marketable as cute neko girls.

Viera would only need a slight footwear adjustments... Also a good opportunity to have a race with the female model looking more savage than the male :D

Ivalice moogles can use similar proportions to current Lalafells. It would be good to have another short race for a change. Also, very feasible lore-wise, for them being a whole different kind of moogle that are less mystical, and more evolved to cope with the ambient.

Weird lizard people? Really? You think that's going to win people over to your case? I want a playable beast race too, but you don't see me being rude about it.

Another option would be to add an item that changes your characters appearance, that way you won't need to do any work with armors, just slight weapon adjustments and animations. Could also be used for testing feral races out, see how popular it gets. Just some more suggestions :)

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Stormblood managed to toss every previous rule and excuse to us lacking more beastly races right out the window.

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Nah, that's not true at all. Races like Ananta and Lupin may live and work with humans, but it's clear that they are BEASTMEN living and working with humans. No one ever refers to them as human, because they are not human. This game has a pretty clear division between those who are human (predominantly human in appearance, with variance in height and bulk, and occasionally with minor animal bits tacked on) and those who are beastmen (pretty much everyone else who is not Voidsent). It was never about tribal behavior, or summoning Primals, though that may have been excuses made by various oppressors to justify their hatred and bigotry. No, it's always been about appearance, pure and simple.

In Eorzea, where the Warrior of Light gets their start, tensions with Beastmen are much higher than in Doma (and any tensions that might have existed in Ala Mihgo have been set aside for now, in order to face a greater foe). For the Warrior of Light to gain the trust and cooperation of the three starting nations, they NEEDED to not be a Beastman. Whether Hydaelyn COULD have made a Beastman the Warrior of Light is unknown, but if she had her plan would have come to a swift end.

For this reason, for a playable Beastman race to work out, SE would need to completely retool the Main Scenario to accommodate them. I just don't see that happening - and that's not even bringing into consideration the difficulties of redesigning every piece of equipment in the game to fit the new race.

Let's make a race out of Red XIII's people from FFVII. That's feral, right?

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Originally Posted by Windwalker

Before the anti-furries start hating, i like creativity :)

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Please don't call anthropomorphism "furry". Furry is the sh***y community made of sex-addict, not the fact of making anthropomorphic character. You're dirtying all those cool anthro character like Crash or Spyro.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Viera would only need a slight footwear adjustments... Also a good opportunity to have a race with the female model looking more savage than the male :D

Ivalice moogles can use similar proportions to current Lalafells. It would be good to have another short race for a change. Also, very feasible lore-wise, for them being a whole different kind of moogle that are less mystical, and more evolved to cope with the ambient.

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OMG i didnt even think of the Ivalice moogles....I actually liked their designs quite a bit!

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Please don't call anthropomorphism "furry". Furry is the sh***y community made of sex-addict, not the fact of making anthropomorphic character. You're dirtying all those cool anthro character like Crash or Spyro.

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Ï thought only a small part of the Furry community was about the sex, but people made a mountain out of a molehill and now the whole Furry community are to blame.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Ï thought only a small part of the Furry community was about the sex, but people made a mountain out of a molehill and now the whole Furry community are to blame.

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A small part? Haha. No. I've been there for 2-3 years and boy clichés are so right.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Please don't call anthropomorphism "furry". Furry is the sh***y community made of sex-addict, not the fact of making anthropomorphic character. You're dirtying all those cool anthro character like Crash or Spyro.

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Woah there. Furries are not all addicts. Try going beyond the internet, and look into fur meets. They're usually not what you'd expect. Also my boyfriend and I have been together for years now, and we're decent people. Please don't make fun of furries, just because you might not want a beast race.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Woah there. Furries are not all addicts. Try going beyond the internet, and look into fur meets. They're usually not what you'd expect. Also my boyfriend and I have been together for years now, and we're decent people. Please don't make fun of furries, just because you might not want a beast race.

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I want a beast race and I've frequented the furries for some years which is why I don't anymore frequent them

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Weird lizard people? Really? You think that's going to win people over to your case? I want a playable beast race too, but you don't see me being rude about it.

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But....Au Ra are weird lizard people....thats not rude....its pretty accurate XP

It's the way that it was said. It was making fun of our choice of playable race.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's the way that it was said. It was making fun of our choice of playable race.

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Learn to laugh at yourself a little :D It's more fun that way.

I make fun of all the races, esp the little potato lalas XP Don't take it seriously (However I am a fantasia addict so I see it as no big deal)

Au Ra are the weird, slightly diseased looking lizard waifus.

And I'm ok with being one at the moment XP Cuz I am my own waifu then! tehe.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's the way that it was said. It was making fun of our choice of playable race.

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I know, right?
If anything we're Elezen with a bad skin condition.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...f/cfe35148.jpg
http://imgur.com/3X1HNa9.jpg
http://imgur.com/26pX3Ky.jpg


Thing is Au Ra were suppose to be more feral looking. However, guess they were to beastly or "not cute enough" to warrant letting us play them as is. The concept above had me excited but after the full reveal I tucked my fantasia back in my retainer.

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

It's most likely got less to do with lore rules and more to do with the fact that Japanese audiences don't typical enjoy furry races as much as Western ones do. They're not as marketable as cute neko girls.

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That wasn't enough to keep them out of previous Final Fantasy games. Kimahri has his share of fans, even in Japan.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

In Eorzea, where the Warrior of Light gets their start, tensions with Beastmen are much higher than in Doma (and any tensions that might have existed in Ala Mihgo have been set aside for now, in order to face a greater foe). For the Warrior of Light to gain the trust and cooperation of the three starting nations, they NEEDED to not be a Beastman.

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There are a lot of tensions with enemy beastmen, yet at the same time there are Goblins and Mammol Ja living and working in Limsa, and Gridania has had an alliance with the Slyphs for a long time. Even Ul'dah has people who trade with the friendlier beastmen. So they're really not implacably against ALL beast tribes.

If SE wanted to add a playable beastman race, Eorzea would simply accept that it's one of the friendly (or at least tolerable) beastman races rather than an enemy race. It would take a bit of adapting, but so does the addition of any new race that hadn't been referenced before.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...f/cfe35148.jpg
http://imgur.com/3X1HNa9.jpg
http://imgur.com/26pX3Ky.jpg


Thing is Au Ra were suppose to be more feral looking. However, guess they were to beastly or "not cute enough" to warrant letting us play them as is. The concept above had me excited but after the full reveal I tucked my fantasia back in my retainer.

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I keep thinking Au Ra would have had more success with the first idea. It's a shame the ended with the actual ugly Au Ra.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...f/cfe35148.jpg
http://imgur.com/3X1HNa9.jpg
http://imgur.com/26pX3Ky.jpg


Thing is Au Ra were suppose to be more feral looking. However, guess they were to beastly or "not cute enough" to warrant letting us play them as is. The concept above had me excited but after the full reveal I tucked my fantasia back in my retainer.

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I'm really bummed they didn't go for this.
When I first saw this during the live stream I got hyped, but then we saw the finished product.
Still looks more fierce (in my opinion anyway) than any other of the current races. And that's why I went for it.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's the way that it was said. It was making fun of our choice of playable race.

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I think you're taking their choice of phrasing a little too personally.