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    Feral beast race?

    Would love to see a feral beast race, bored of neko's and weird lizard people...

    A burmecian race like from FFXIV would be sweet and doesn't really need much work with armors and stuff. As for how many people that would be interested... everyone always fantasia to the latest race anyway to check it out. Always played beast races in WoW and other MMO's like the Tauren / Worgen "WoW", Charr "Guildwars", Chua "Wildstar"..

    http://atma.lost-edens.com/albums/us...Burmecians.jpg

    Before the anti-furries start hating, i like creativity
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    Last edited by Windwalker; 07-07-2017 at 10:49 AM.

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    Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, it's written into the lore that beast tribes can't be playable races due to the whole Warrior of Light thing and beast tribes cannot be warriors of light, since each beast tribe has a primal attachment to them (often one group for, one against said primal), but their fates are intertwined. As a result, adding a feral beast race would work in a similar vain to beast tribes and would therefore break a lot of lore.

    Not only that, but due to the way that FFXIV handles armour and clothing, they can't use anything other than variants of existing races as attempting to make it fit those new proportions would be too much. It's why Au Ra are basically Hyurs with horns and scales.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    Don't think that's enough of a reason, considering the events of Baelsar's Wall. That is unless you want to start considering Hyur as some sort of Beast Tribe. =P
    GG. Retconned my own first point by not fully understanding the lore. There is something regarding the warrior of light and feral races though that prevents them from happening. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the lore can expand on that point for me.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 07-07-2017 at 11:09 AM.
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, it's written into the lore that beast tribes can't be playable races due to the whole Warrior of Light thing and beast tribes cannot be warriors of light, since each beast tribe has a primal attachment to them (often one group for, one against said primal), but their fates are intertwined. As a result, adding a feral beast race would work in a similar vain to beast tribes and would therefore break a lot of lore.
    Don't think that's enough of a reason, considering the events of Baelsar's Wall. That is unless you want to start considering Hyur as some sort of Beast Tribe. =P
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    Thats weird, the Au Ra was made a playable race out of the blue... even miqo'te's are considered warriors of light... Beast tribes and other beast races can always be split up by any means... I don't see how beasts should always worship a primal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Thats weird, the Au Ra was made a playable race out of the blue... even miqo'te's are considered warriors of light... Beast tribes and other beast races can always be split up by any means... I don't see how beasts should always worship a primal...
    To call Miqotes and AuRa a beast race is just plain wrong. They both look very human. Beastmen tribes may have humanoid forms but none of them even look human. To be fair to you, even humans can summon a primal as we've seen on 2 occasions.

    SE needs to first address the issue with current races by adding in an equal amount of options to the CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    doesn't really need much work with armors and stuff.
    Except that they absolutely do need to work with armors and thus will never happen.
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    Stormblood managed to toss every previous rule and excuse to us lacking more beastly races right out the window.

    The whole super animalistic race rule being undoable because "differences" got tossed with the Lupin. They live among the Domans as regulars. Even the beast tribe murdering Garleans conscript them with the rest, insofar as to make a unit for them. Their theiving group in Yanxia smacks of the same treatment as the Coeurlclaws and Redbellies of the Shroud. So, they is a precidence against that. And they are STRAIGHT UP wolf furries.

    The tribal belief rules got muddy with the Xeala tribes. Each tribe is extremely faithful to their personal doctrine, and said belief systems vary wildly with only a few similar factors. The only thing keeping the Dawn Father and Dusk Mother from being primals is name alone, especially with the Oromir. These people live and die faith harder than some of the actual beast tribes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Stormblood managed to toss every previous rule and excuse to us lacking more beastly races right out the window.
    Nah, that's not true at all. Races like Ananta and Lupin may live and work with humans, but it's clear that they are BEASTMEN living and working with humans. No one ever refers to them as human, because they are not human. This game has a pretty clear division between those who are human (predominantly human in appearance, with variance in height and bulk, and occasionally with minor animal bits tacked on) and those who are beastmen (pretty much everyone else who is not Voidsent). It was never about tribal behavior, or summoning Primals, though that may have been excuses made by various oppressors to justify their hatred and bigotry. No, it's always been about appearance, pure and simple.

    In Eorzea, where the Warrior of Light gets their start, tensions with Beastmen are much higher than in Doma (and any tensions that might have existed in Ala Mihgo have been set aside for now, in order to face a greater foe). For the Warrior of Light to gain the trust and cooperation of the three starting nations, they NEEDED to not be a Beastman. Whether Hydaelyn COULD have made a Beastman the Warrior of Light is unknown, but if she had her plan would have come to a swift end.

    For this reason, for a playable Beastman race to work out, SE would need to completely retool the Main Scenario to accommodate them. I just don't see that happening - and that's not even bringing into consideration the difficulties of redesigning every piece of equipment in the game to fit the new race.
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    The Ananta fudge appearance rules as hard as the Lupin do, but still consider themselves a seperate kind of personhood from the spoken races. "Ala Mhigo belongs to man and ananta once more."
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    It's most likely got less to do with lore rules and more to do with the fact that Japanese audiences don't typical enjoy furry races as much as Western ones do. They're not as marketable as cute neko girls.
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