We really need more difficulty levels for raids than just 2

So it turns out (as expected) that normal omega is piss poor easy. Now if I want more challenge I have to jump straight into a static progression group that grinds the same battle over and over again. There needs to be something in between, the extreme primals just ain't enough. Story mode, extreme/hard mode and savage would be far more better implementation. I would consider myself a mid core player (enjoys a challenge, always does ex primals but doesn't have the time/energy to join a static group that does the most challenging content) and I really would want more content that has it difficulty somewhere where sephirot ex was when it came out, it did not require mad grinding and optimization, but at the same time everyone needed to play their class well and the mechanics needed training. It was puggable but usually required many many tries. I cannot be alone with this seeing how many people enjoy ex primals but how few do savage raids. They should learn from WoW, there is a reason why so many difficulty levels exist in that game.

How long have you played this game? At the end of the day, if you are unhappy just don't play. There are many options on how you can play this game at different skill sets. Perhaps you are too good for all of them. Go play something else if you can't be happy here. They will not change for the sake of your spoiled opinion

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Linx0r

How long have you played this game? At the end of the day, if you are unhappy just don't play. There are many options on how you can play this game at different skill sets. Perhaps you are too good for all of them. Go play something else if you can't be happy here. They will not change for the sake of your spoiled opinion

---

Oh yeah I forgot how the forums are, here I am giving my opinion about something that I think needs improving, only to receive the usual "if you don't like it leave lol". And to your actual point, no, there really are not many ways to play the game "with different skill sets", in fact most of the content is very casual, which is not a bad thing in itself but I think the game should have more content beyond that.

Savage raids don't require grinding it is just 4 fights. Might take an evening or 2 to learn each fight but once you beat it savage modes do able in just 1 night.

The problem with doing what WoW does is that you basically need someone to keep updating existing fights EVERY time there's a new patch in order to keep up with the ever increasing item levels. That alone is just a nightmare.

IF you want midcore content put a pf up for min i level sync dungeons or ex trials problem solved stop whining.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Darty123

IF you want midcore content put a pf up for min i level sync dungeons or ex trials problem solved stop whining.

---

There also needs to be rewards for doing the content, and second no dungeons are hard even when synced to min ilvl, there is just no sense doing old primals with min ilvl because I have done most of them in the past anyway and they don't drop anything worthwhile anymore. So no that is not problem solved, problem solved would actually be giving us more content rather than 1 extreme fight each patch, or 2 at the start of an expansion and that would easily be solved by implementing raids in 3 difficulty tiers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Samsta

There also needs to be rewards for doing the content, and second no dungeons are hard even when synced to min ilvl, there is just no sense doing old primals with min ilvl because I have done most of them in the past anyway and they don't drop anything worthwhile anymore. So no that is not problem solved, problem solved would actually be giving us more content rather than 1 extreme fight each patch, or 2 at the start of an expansion and that would easily be solved by implementing raids in 3 difficulty tiers.

---

Basicly you know there can be challenges, but you won't do them unless you get rewarded.
Your problem isn't the lack of challenges, but your mindset that everything has to have a reward.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rasylia

Basicly you know there can be challenges, but you won't do them unless you get rewarded.
Your problem isn't the lack of challenges, but your mindset that everything has to have a reward.

---

Yes, if I spend my time on something it only makes sense you get something out of it. Why would I grind old primals that I have already done if I get nothing out of it? It isn't even fun when I have already done the fights multiple times.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Samsta

Yes, if I spend my time on something it only makes sense you get something out of it. Why would I grind old primals that I have already done if I get nothing out of it? It isn't even fun when I have already done the fights multiple times.

---

Don't bother. The community of this game cannot be reasoned with and any criticism is met with ire. There is literally no downside to adding more difficulty levels to the game's content, yet they are vehemently against it. *shrug*

While I do agree that "midcore" content is somewhat lacking, I think that the general drop in EX primal difficulty this time around was intended to address that by moving EX primals from "hardcore" content to "midcore". Granted, that's kind of a lazy way out compared to making new content for "midcore" players, but let's wait and see how Omega Savage turns out. For all we know they nerfed Savage as well and are saving that rumored "Super Savage" fight for the "hardcore" players.

If they follow the same ilvl formula they did for heavensward, then omega normal gives 320, new tome gives 330 and savage gives 340. Personally I'd like to see new tome give 320 gear(since you get it from easy 4 man dungeons). Kick difficulty of normal omega up a notch and give 330 then savage still give 340.

I enjoyed the Omega dungeons. They are more my speed hehe. TY devs.:D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rakhabit

Stuff

---

You are part of the community - so you automatically are also against more difficulties. Oh, you are not? Well, stop throwing everyone in the same bucket then.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Samsta

Yes, if I spend my time on something it only makes sense you get something out of it. Why would I grind old primals that I have already done if I get nothing out of it? It isn't even fun when I have already done the fights multiple times.

---

You can be rewarded for the current difficulty - and demand more difficulty. But, you also want more rewards. But the true difficult raids, with rewards, are too difficult. The old ones have a good difficulty, but no rewards. Which you dont like.

Again, you don't want more difficulty, you want more rewards, paired with a difficulty that you can handle, because you cant handle savage. Which is not something we need in the game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rasylia

stuff

---

I don't think you understand what I am saying, the rewards only came up because someone suggested that doing old primals is somehow viable solution. Rewards are a given, what I want is more midcore content like I have said (ex primal tier). You have turned this to a nice strawman where I somehow just want stuff, no, I want content, which automatically brings some sort of rewards, because content needs to be rewarding, be that through items or sometimes just fun, which the old primals both lack as I have said. There is a huge abundance of midcore content in this game.

EDIT: apparently I don't know what abundance means lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Linx0r

How long have you played this game? At the end of the day, if you are unhappy just don't play. There are many options on how you can play this game at different skill sets. Perhaps you are too good for all of them. Go play something else if you can't be happy here. They will not change for the sake of your spoiled opinion

---

This kind of opinion is what kills games and what killed wow in the first place. No, if theres a inherent problem with how content is being delivered, we as a playerbase needs to voice out to get things changed.

And back to OP's question even if they add a new layer of difficulty above savage, its just going to be the same arena the same boss model recycled with more mechanics and higher numbers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Samsta

Yes, if I spend my time on something it only makes sense you get something out of it. Why would I grind old primals that I have already done if I get nothing out of it? It isn't even fun when I have already done the fights multiple times.

---

Because its always fun to see someone fly off Titan.

That being said, not everything needs a reward. Even completion should be its own reward. They can only create so much content within a given amount of time. Yes, they could use more content for midcore players, I agree. But at the same time, what they have isnt too shabby if youre not against having fun with friends. My FC always finds a way to make things fun. Like naked drunk dungeons. That's ALWAYS a good time XP