[REQUEST] Please stop making cash shop items for one character on the account.

Hi, I regularly play 4 characters on FFXIV and pay a slightly increased sub for this privilege. I don't like using Fantasia as although I don't RP, I have set character backgrounds for them all and don't wish to change from this. Clearly I'm in the minority here, as the Phial of Fantasia is the top-selling item on the Mogstation. Obviously, that's fine but the minority still matters in my opinion! :)

I don't think it's fair that if I purchased say, Play Dead for £4.03, I can only use it on one character that might only get used for say, 25-33% of my playtime, while my others go without. I think to expect people who play alts regularly because they like a change of pace for whatever reason to pay several times that much is just greedy - we already pay a subscription as it is.

Yes, I realise I don't have to purchase it and so far, I haven't. The only single character purchase I have made so far was for my wedding. The other was the Fat Moogle mount which although it cost me £17, all my characters can use it. I think all items on the Mogstation should be account-wide like this.

An alternative suggestion would be to say, charge £4.03 for Play Dead and £7 or so for an account-wide version. That way, people with only one character don't have to pay more. Like our subscription fee, we pay a little more to have access to more characters so why can't the Mogstation reflect this too?

I feel this is punishing players who choose to plays alts rather than buy Fantasia and I don't think that's right. I'd appreciate it if you could consider forwarding my points to the people who make decisions regarding this.

Thank you!

For the prices they charge, the cash shop items should be account wide, perhaps not dyes, but the rest should be imho

Better request: Please stop making cash shop items.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

For the prices they charge, the cash shop items should be account wide, perhaps not dyes, but the rest should be imho

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They are completely out of whack with similar items in other games. Their single character prices are what are the common account-wide prices in other MMOs. They really need to adjust this.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

They are completely out of whack with similar items in other games. Their single character prices are what are the common account-wide prices in other MMOs. They really need to adjust this.

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Honestly for several items, the single character prices here are MORE than the common account-wide prices in other MMOs.

Less cash shop, more promotion events

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Honestly for several items, the single character prices here are MORE than the common account-wide prices in other MMOs.

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Yep, that too. I would love to give them my additional cash, but they don't give me enough value for what they're charging, especially since I have experience with other MMOs. I feel like I'm being gouged and that makes my wallet snap closed.

I would have purchased so much more from the cash shop if the offers were account wide. While the cash shop here is nowhere near as bad as BDO's cash shop, I still do wish they managed certain items better.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

I would have purchased so much more from the cash shop if the offers were account wide. While the cash shop here is nowhere near as bad as BDO's cash shop, I still do wish they managed certain items better.

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I only got the eastern dance because I really wanted it. Then felt the inevitable sadness when switching to an alt and it wasn't there because Id gotten so used to just having it on my hotbar. XIV isn't a Korean cash shop mmo, so I think players paying a sub plus bonus with retainers should be allowed a little leeway for things like that.

I would like to add that in my ideal FFXIV world, the cash shop wouldn't exist. I believe they should only be in free to play games. I have anxiety though and didn't want to be attacked by people who liked it, so didn't mention it initially. I miss how FFXI used to give you stuff from events but even there they added items linked to physical purchases, like the jacket that let you teleport because you bought a RL pendant. Still not the same as a purely digital cash shop though. I agree with everyone that said to get rid of the cash shop. :P It's probably not going to happen though.

Also, I would LOVE the Eastern Dance, but I'm not buying it 4 times. :(

I can still barely stomach the price of gears with emote stretching the line really thin, but Thal's balls the price for furniture... Especially the past seasonal event ones.

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

I can still barely stomach the price of gears with emote stretching the line really thin, but Thal's balls the price for furniture... Especially the past seasonal event ones.

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Which, like XI, should offer previous years event items for GIL, not RL money. :(

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Originally Posted by Heybunny

Which, like XI, should offer previous years event items for GIL, not RL money. :(

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They did it that way in the beginning, then they moved it to the kupo store. Ideally I think we should have both options, allowing players to buy it in-game via gil (or seasonal currency) the next time the event comes around AND via cash through kupo stores for those who don't wish to wait or simply like to show support financially to SE. That's just my personal opinion though.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

For the prices they charge, the cash shop items should be account wide, perhaps not dyes, but the rest should be imho

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I'd suggest that consumable items such as dyes or potions should be character specific. Everything else emotes, mounts, gear of any kind, hairstyles, minions, furniture, etc... should be account wide. The one exception to this would be Fantasia. Fantasia used to be account wide, then without a drop in price it was made character specific. I believe that Fantasia should be sold in two varieties, account wide and character specific. The character specific should be half the price of the account wide - which should be set at the current price.

A two tier pricing system would work well, but for that SE needs to get real about the prices of their items. The price of outfits on the Mogstation rival the purchase price of full game, if these prices were raised for account wide items, I do not think there would be many takers. On the other hand if current prices were frozen for account wide and a lower price for character specific, I think SE would see a fairly good uptick in purchases from the Mogstation.

Event items should be available in-game for gil the following year. But after the event closes, items from the prior year, should then be made available on the mogstation. this way, players have two chances to get the items in-game before they go cash-shop.

Cash Shop's manager is farming us!... :rolleyes:

Now, seriously talking I don't see a reason why they don't make anything on the Mog Station account-wide, it's not like the best FFXIV players will buy the same item one by one for all of their characters so, SE, get rid of the limitations and make everything account-wide, that's all that keeps me from buying some nice things that I would use once or twice before forgetting about them, oh, and the ridiculously high prices too!... :(

I'll add my voice to this, because gear and emotes should be account-wide, not character-specific.

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Cash Shop's manager is farming us!... :rolleyes:

Now, seriously talking I don't see a reason why they don't make anything on the Mog Station account-wide, it's not like the best FFXIV players will buy the same item one by one for all of their characters so, SE, get rid of the limitations and make everything account-wide, that's all that keeps me from buying some nice things that I would use once or twice before forgetting about them, oh, and the ridiculously high prices too!... :(

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Agreed, there are several things I would buy from MogStation if they were account wide rather than character specific. But, not if the price suddenly inflated.

I mean, let's be honest, SE could implement a two tier price on everything with the current price being for account wide and half that price per character tomorrow and it wouldn't cost them a dime. In fact, I think it would boost their MogStation revenue by a pretty healthy margin. The simple fact is there are a lot of players who refuse to pay the current prices for character specific purchases, but would be interested if they were account wide. By creating a half price single character option for purchase, SE loses absolutely nothing, and in a single stroke makes the entire MogStation more attractive to players who otherwise would not be interested in it.

To me, that seems like a win/win.

+1

It would be better without cash-shop, especially events items but if they want to keep the cash shop, clearly, I agree with the OP, skins, minions and similar stuffs need to be account wide.

I don't purchase in the cashop because of the character restriction.

Retainers are already something weird in a game with monthly fees.

The cash shop marketing team looks at this thread and laughs cuz they've left behind the acct wide sales train ages ago and are never coming back

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

The cash shop marketing team looks at this thread and laughs cuz they've left behind the acct wide sales train ages ago and are never coming back

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That's a point of view that limits their market, and their revenue.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

That's a point of view that limits their market, and their revenue.

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On what basis?

EDIT: saw the above post.

I say single chr purchases still outweigh the amount of people who don't buy them because its not acct-wide. Either that or SE don't care for overwhelming profit because they treat their cash shop as extra revenue instead of a highly dependent one.

I also wish that - at the very least - all gear and mounts would be account-wide.

I have several characters on different servers, and while I am always going to default to giving things to my main, I would love to have them on my alts as well.

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Originally Posted by Heybunny

Which, like XI, should offer previous years event items for GIL, not RL money. :(

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They do it, at least for the gear. You only need the achievement of the previous events.

+1 for an option to buy it account wide or cheaper for a single character

I'm in the same boat. I have six alts total. To get all the eastern-style outfits on the mog station would cost me over $300. I wish the outfits were account-wide. *sadface*

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

On what basis?

EDIT: saw the above post.

I say single chr purchases still outweigh the amount of people who don't buy them because its not acct-wide. Either that or SE don't care for overwhelming profit because they treat their cash shop as extra revenue instead of a highly dependent one.

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I'm sorry, I don't think that makes any sense. The cash shop exists as a revenue stream, maximizing it in a way that benefits players is an easy win for both. Neither of us has access to actual market statistics on MogStation purchases, but since there is no way to really compare the amount of people who are not purchasing things because they are character specific rather than account wide against those who purchase anyway, it's difficult to be truly accurate. That said, anecdotally from my discussions with friends and in topics such as this on the forum, there is a significant number of players who do not buy because the price is too high for single character purchases.

Single character purchases right now might outweigh the people not buying because of the account wide, but you're missing two points. By going to a two tier system I mentioned SE doesn't loose those existing buyer, but they gain people who a) would buy if the items were account wide at the current prices, and b) would buy if the single character items were less expensive. Switching to a two tier pricing system would not drive any existing customers away, so the only result is to increase the number of customers purchasing items at the MogStation.

Since these are virtual items in a subscription game, and there are no production costs per item once the initial design work is done; it's all essentially free revenue for SE.

More customers = more revenue. Seems to me, to be a fairly easy logical step to take.

This right here. I will GLADLY pay the prices in the cash shop. The Odin mount was fair and the Bennu... but $7 for an emote on one character... wtf

It's the biggest issue I have with Mogstation. I have 6 fully functional accounts, 4 on Siren and 2 on Gilgamesh at full 270. I've worked hard to do it and I pay an extra sub fee for extra characters. There is no reason why they shouldn't all be getting content I buy on mogstation. I really hope they fix it but I won't hold my breath.

Yeah, we already pay more for the sub for having more characters. The prices of the items in the MogStation are scandalously overpriced already, and they're not even account wide. They should make them account wide.

I'm more than willing to buy something I like on the cash shop but yeah it SUCKS that most items today are per character because I have A LOT of alts :/

SE please close this f*cking cash shop.

Same here.
I've already bought the Bennu and Sleipnir, and I would buy much more, but ONLY account wide things.
No account wide offer? No money from me.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

Better request: Please stop making cash shop items.

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Sadly this won't happen as they make tones of money with it :/

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Originally Posted by Celef

Sadly this won't happen as they make tones of money with it :/

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If they make all the items with two prices, single-character and account-wide, my bet their income improves.
Even if I have only one character, I'd vauche for account-wide just for the freedom to always have that if I create new toons.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

If they make all the items with two prices, single-character and account-wide, my bet their income improves.

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Well, knowing them they'd take the current prices and at least double them for the account-wide purchase.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

If they make all the items with two prices, single-character and account-wide, my bet their income improves.
Even if I have only one character, I'd vauche for account-wide just for the freedom to always have that if I create new toons.

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Well I think they also see it as a "why would someone create new toons ?"
We can do everything with one charac which is pretty cool so maybe they decided to not make it acount wide to encourage people to not create new characters but instead focus on just one ?

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Originally Posted by Celef

We can do everything with one charac which is pretty cool so maybe they decided to not make it acount wide to encourage people to not create new characters but instead focus on just one ?

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I rather think they simply want to gouge you 'til you bleed. It's a business, businesses do that. And SE in particular is a business rumored to have shoved micro-transactions into Deus Ex last minute without telling the devs because moniez.

They are already charging you more per month to have more than one character per realm in the first place. That alone should warrant purchases being account-wide IMO. But they want you to spend even more on top and hope you'll do that - or more likely, they have learned from when Fantasias were account wide and figured they could sell more if they do it per character.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Well, knowing them they'd take the current prices and at least double them for the account-wide purchase.

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Oh god, don't give them any ideas (I'm sure they've already had). Dx

I always prefer account wide unlocks for this sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

I rather think they simply want to gouge you 'til you bleed. It's a business, businesses do that. And SE in particular is a business rumored to have shoved micro-transactions into Deus Ex last minute without telling the devs because moniez.

They are already charging you more per month to have more than one character per realm in the first place. That alone should warrant purchases being account-wide IMO. But they want you to spend even more on top and hope you'll do that - or more likely, they have learned from when Fantasias were account wide and figured they could sell more if they do it per character.

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While I wouldn't entirely doubt that, I also agree with Celef. When asked about retainer space or allowing more than eight, Yoshida flat out admitted the overwhelming majority only have two retainers. There just isn't much reason to level an alt in this game. They actually removed a primary one since it looks like Soul of the Crafter can be bought at will. Unless that is changed, all you need to do is farm 480 red scrips and switch. That leaves Savage loot and roleplay as pretty much the only reasons.

Bumping because they keep doing it. Stop being greedy SE. :(
Disclaimer: I got these emotes on my main and two of my alts, I don't use them enough to warrant buying them myself, but it's unfair for others with alts that do want to buy them.
http://i.imgur.com/e6OVxo2.jpg

In this instance, I suppose it could be worse. They could charge £4+ PER EMOTE. But that still doesn't make this fair on those of us who play alts, imo.