Can we get an advance

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12-13-2011, 09:32 AM
Dubont

Can we get an advance

on the server fix? I really don't feel like paying to play for a whole year when my spells don't even get cast half of the time due to server problems -.-

so...instead of waiting for 2.0....could it be possible to get this moved forward to like...May?
12-13-2011, 09:36 AM
Gramul

Would you also like the moon?
Oh and how about my left arm and leg. Oh and while we're at it, let's just give you the power to fly~

Bein' a jerk yo.
12-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Would you also like the moon?
Oh and how about my left arm and leg. Oh and while we're at it, let's just give you the power to fly~

Bein' a jerk yo.

That'd be awesome, actually.
12-13-2011, 09:40 AM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by Dubont

That'd be awesome, actually.

It would wouldn't it...
12-13-2011, 09:43 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Gramul

It would wouldn't it...

yessir, almost as awesome as a decent FFXIV server and gfx engine =D
12-13-2011, 09:44 AM
Kio

I don't believe that's possible.

They have said they would continue on trying to find ways to make the current server structure work better if that's any consolation.
12-13-2011, 09:48 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Kio

I don't believe that's possible.

They have said they would continue on trying to find ways to make the current server structure work better if that's any consolation.

I like that they are trying, but it just isn't enough. Having to wait 10 seconds for a 1 second cast is not exactly ideal...and I'm not exactly sure that I want to wait another year (and pay for it) under these conditions...I realize that they are doing their best, but I believe the server issues should be top priority once jobs are released.
12-13-2011, 09:52 AM
Xatsh

If your delay is 10secs for a cast, it is not squares servers which are the issues.

There is some latency yea but it is more like 1/2 sec not 10secs.
12-13-2011, 10:02 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

If your delay is 10secs for a cast, it is not squares servers which are the issues.

There is some latency yea but it is more like 1/2 sec not 10secs.

it's completely squares servers. No other games or programs have such a problem.
12-13-2011, 04:10 PM
Neptune

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Originally Posted by Dubont

on the server fix? I really don't feel like paying to play for a whole year when my spells don't even get cast half of the time due to server problems -.-

so...instead of waiting for 2.0....could it be possible to get this moved forward to like...May?

I like how you think waiting another 6 months is a concession. How depressing. Lol.
12-13-2011, 04:22 PM
Seth_Ahriman

yay white knight retards.. clearly the game needs fixing
12-13-2011, 06:19 PM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Neptune

I like how you think waiting another 6 months is a concession. How depressing. Lol.

6 months early is $30ish that I don't feel that I've wasted....

granted, that's only 3 meals where I live...but the point still remains...
12-13-2011, 06:40 PM
viion

It would be nice, i dont think be possible. As it would likely be a choice of "work tough on server" "work on game improvements/content".

More people want stuff regarding the games content and what you play, not backend changes that they cannot see, but does affect them.

I want more than anything is server fixes, but then the question remains that even if they did lots of server changes they will likely need to fix the game to work with those changes, which is easier when making a new game that is built for the fixed servers, so... that is what they are doing it seems.

They likely have completely different setup for the new servers and have it all complete, just still building tools for it and still building v2. As the v1 is incompatible with it.
12-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Junpei

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Originally Posted by Dubont

6 months early is $30ish that I don't feel that I've wasted....

If you feel your money is wasted, dont pay.

If you argue that you want to play, then obviously your money is worth it.
12-13-2011, 06:46 PM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Junpei

If you feel your money is wasted, dont pay.

If you argue that you want to play, then obviously your money is worth it.

I will be paying, but only to get the story aspects. Do I feel it's worth it? No, but I'll do it anyway. The point is, I won't be happy about it because I won't be enjoying the game as a whole.
12-13-2011, 06:47 PM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by Seth_Ahriman

yay white knight retards.. clearly the game needs fixing

Could we perhaps stop using these stock insults on each other like White Knight and Whiner? It seriously undermines the actual ideals and points that people are trying to make and puts a damper on communication. We need communication in order to reach better understanding of each others views and opinions, which allows us to better convey input that will be good for the FFXIV community as a whole.

And as to avoid being a hypocrite, let me make a serious response.

I understand the anxiety of waiting a whole year for the server issues to be fixed, but there's just no way they can shave off 6 months of preparation to accommodate the 1.X game. The server setup is being designed around how FFXIV will be in 2.0. It will be ready when it's ready, and certainly not 6 months before. I mean it's not like they finished it and are just sitting on their hands till the release date. You can't really get an "advance" on these things.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

I will be paying, but only to get the story aspects. Do I feel it's worth it? No, but I'll do it anyway. The point is, I won't be happy about it because I won't be enjoying the game as a whole.

If you're not enjoying something, throwing money at it is just about the last thing you should do. If you want the story, just check you tube.
12-13-2011, 06:52 PM
viion

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Originally Posted by Junpei

If you feel your money is wasted, dont pay.

If you argue that you want to play, then obviously your money is worth it.

How many people have you said that too? 100? How many people have also said same, 50?, SE thanks you for losing them $150'000 XD. (Seems low, but think of it as a chain reaction... friends of friends....)

I'm just kidding but the whole community telling people to GTFO rather than giving them a reason to stay is bad for SE who is trying so hard to keep everyone.
12-13-2011, 06:57 PM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by viion

How many people have you said that too? 100? How many people have also said same, 50?, SE thanks you for losing them $150'000 XD.

But it also sends a much stronger message.

I wouldn't worry too much about Square's funds for FFXIV at the moment. I don't think they're expecting to make much till 2.0 which they are proven to be committed to even with very little money coming in, it will still be more than they have been making the past year. If they're still having problems during 2.0, that's reason to worry.
12-14-2011, 12:49 AM
Belial

These threads about "I don't want to pay for..." are so asinine and ridiculous.

It has been explicitly said, pay for the game if you feel it's worthy.

Since you don't feel it's worthy, don't pay until the new server structure is implemented. Problem solved.
12-14-2011, 12:54 AM
AdvancedWind

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Originally Posted by Dubont

yessir, almost as awesome as a decent FFXIV server and gfx engine =D

You mean getting 2.0 before 2.0?
12-14-2011, 12:59 AM
Coglin

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Originally Posted by Dubont

I will be paying, but only to get the story aspects. Do I feel it's worth it? No, but I'll do it anyway. The point is, I won't be happy about it because I won't be enjoying the game as a whole.

Well heck, with logic like this, no wonder he is complaining and lying.

And I will call it lying because this:

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Originally Posted by Dubont

it's completely squares servers. No other games or programs have such a problem.

is about as much a false statement as it gets. For that matter I bet I can go on almost any game forums and link you 100 post of players claiming thay have lag do to said game, all the while you sit here and claim not other game out there has lag. I know who I believe.
12-14-2011, 01:08 AM
Nakiamiie

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Originally Posted by Dubont

on the server fix? I really don't feel like paying to play for a whole year when my spells don't even get cast half of the time due to server problems -.-

so...instead of waiting for 2.0....could it be possible to get this moved forward to like...May?

With your magical thinking it could be possible, however real life limitations prohibit it. Too bad for you. Also, spells do get cast, if you would just stop mashing the spell button, you'd stop cancelling the casting.
12-14-2011, 01:16 AM
Junpei

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Originally Posted by viion

How many people have you said that too? 100? How many people have also said same, 50?, SE thanks you for losing them $150'000 XD. (Seems low, but think of it as a chain reaction... friends of friends....)

I'm just kidding but the whole community telling people to GTFO rather than giving them a reason to stay is bad for SE who is trying so hard to keep everyone.

Money is Squares problem. Not ours. if you arent enjoying your time. then dont pay.

The other guy said he was going to pay to see the story... but wouldnt enjoy it? wtf? if you dont enjoy it why are you torturing yourself?!

I'm playing because I like it. I hang out with my friends. We go out and kill strong hold bosses. we help LS members through ifrit. We farm sentinel/sipahi/mage gear. we do quests. we do DD, Totorak, Shpoeshae. we Spiritgrind and go for ridiculous tripple melds (damn you malevolence apathy and your ridiculous luck!)

I enjoy this game and will play it.

If you do not enjoy this game as it is, why are you wasting your time on it when you could be having FUN elsewhere!?
12-14-2011, 01:21 AM
Belial

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Originally Posted by Junpei

Money is Squares problem. Not ours. if you arent enjoying your time. then dont pay.

The other guy said he was going to pay to see the story... but wouldnt enjoy it? wtf? if you dont enjoy it why are you torturing yourself?!

I'm playing because I like it. I hang out with my friends. We go out and kill strong hold bosses. we help LS members through ifrit. We farm sentinel/sipahi/mage gear. we do quests. we do DD, Totorak, Shpoeshae. we Spiritgrind and go for ridiculous tripple melds (damn you malevolence apathy and your ridiculous luck!)

I enjoy this game and will play it.

If you do not enjoy this game as it is, why are you wasting your time on it when you could be having FUN elsewhere!?

I'll tell you why those kinda people waste their time here. It's much easier to be angry and pout on a video game forum than to go out and DO something with yourself.
12-14-2011, 01:22 AM
DNO

I think people make stupid and silly threads more often now because soon they will not be able to because they will have to pay to troll instead of doing it for free.

Man i can not wait for that...
12-14-2011, 02:14 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

With your magical thinking it could be possible, however real life limitations prohibit it. Too bad for you. Also, spells do get cast, if you would just stop mashing the spell button, you'd stop cancelling the casting.

You imply that I'm an idiot.

Press button. Wait 2 seconds. Spell begins casting. Spell channels for 5+ seconds. Spell goes off. Cooldown resets, but is not recognized by the server as I have to wait 2-3seconds longer before I can recast.
12-14-2011, 02:15 AM
Dubont

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Originally Posted by DNO

I think people make stupid and silly threads more often now because soon they will not be able to because they will have to pay to troll instead of doing it for free.

Man i can not wait for that...

how is this a dumb thread? Are you implying that the servers aren't a problem? Are you saying that you wouldn't want them to primarily focus on the biggest issue with the game?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

is about as much a false statement as it gets. For that matter I bet I can go on almost any game forums and link you 100 post of players claiming thay have lag do to said game, all the while you sit here and claim not other game out there has lag. I know who I believe.

How am I lying? I get 0 lag on other games and by lag, I'm not talking about FPS lag. I'm talking about the time it takes for the game to respond to my commands. SO YES, it is COMPLETELY Square's fault on this. The devs themselves have even said that the server needs to be redone. Why not focus it, as it is the biggest problem with the game?