[Storage Idea] Crafter's Workshop

I was thinking to myself, "Self, Why do we currently as a game experience such retainer inventory issues?" and then an answer occurred to me, well because crafting materials take up a bunch of space and this game encourages people to be hoarders! So I deliberated and deliberated and came up with an answer. We need a place for our items to go!

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Introducing: Crafting Workshop (Name is a Work in progress..)

Coming to a FC house or Personal Apartment near you! (....maybe)

The idea is that you could make it either a room in a house or a furnishing set that would store items (specifically *only as crafting material) and have a central location that the player could either access a forge or a tinkering table with their crafting tool.

The player may also be able to auto-pull items when crafting as the storage would also act as your inventory for crafting materials.




I know it's asking for a lot of additional coding and potentially intensive server issues but with a game as heavy based on crafters as this one is it may be needed. I would very much like the community's opinion on this and if they have an ideas that could make this work easier/better.

We've only been needing this since the beginning. Plenty of other games let you pull from a separate material storage, FFXIV really needs to catch up on that. Especially with how many mats we have, and the numbers are just increasing. Just to be able to pull mats out of my inventories without having to drag each item out of a retainer is all I want. ; ;

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

Just to be able to pull mats out of my inventories without having to drag each item out of a retainer is all I want. ; ;

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But we need so much more than that though, with inventory being an issue this is close to the simplest solution to fix it.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

We've only been needing this since the beginning. Plenty of other games let you pull from a separate material storage, FFXIV really needs to catch up on that. Especially with how many mats we have, and the numbers are just increasing. Just to be able to pull mats out of my inventories without having to drag each item out of a retainer is all I want. ; ;

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Originally Posted by Dreamx

But we need so much more than that though, with inventory being an issue this is close to the simplest solution to fix it.

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That would be a free increase of 150-300 slots' worth of on-hand mats.

What we need is something like the FC safe for private housing / apartment

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

That would be a free increase of 150-300 slots' worth of on-hand mats.

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What's the problem with that? I understand SE likes to make money as they are a business but charging double the subscription price to be a crafter in a crafting heavy game seems dumb.

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Originally Posted by Felis

What we need is something like the FC safe for private housing / apartment

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This would be pretty darn similar, as you wouldn't need to lug around your crafting mats it would free up your retainers and your inventory spaces you wouldn't even need a private chest.

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Originally Posted by Dreamx

What's the problem with that? I understand SE likes to make money as they are a business but charging double the subscription price to be a crafter in a crafting heavy game seems dumb.

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Consider the second quote for context.

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But we need so much more than that though, with inventory being an issue [the crafter workshop] is close to the simplest solution to fix it.

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I was merely pointing out that ChickenNugget's suggested improvement would be far from insignificant, and would likely be, in fact, simpler.

Naturally, I'll take BOTH, please.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Consider the second quote for context.



I was merely pointing out that ChickenNugget's suggested improvement would be far from insignificant, and would likely be, in fact, simpler.

Naturally, I'll take BOTH, please.

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Oh I agree, I just think in terms of grandeur I'd like the one that would polish off the whole system quite well. To be able to pull stuff automatically from Chests/retainers and that's all we get? Sure I'll take that but we need something is the point of all this.

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Originally Posted by Dreamx

Oh I agree, I just think in terms of grandeur I'd like the one that would polish off the whole system quite well. To be able to pull stuff automatically from Chests/retainers and that's all we get? Sure I'll take that but we need something is the point of all this.

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Idk; not being bogged down by clunky retainer UI seems like a godsend to me. "Here are all my materials/equippable gear/spendable tokens, from wherever they may come."

On topic:

I'm working up an idea to combine the two concepts for multi-person crafts via "crafter tables" or (a slightly different version of) "workshops". I'll run it by you if it gets to even the spitball stage.

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Alright, so at its most basic, the idea is identical to yours except in that multiple players can make use of the stored resources and can easily or even automatically add to the supply of said resources. Essentially, it's just enlarging it to an actual workshop environment, making use of a few additional assets physical such as blueprints (on a board or across the table itself) and a couple UI additions by which to track what everyone's making and how it contributes to the intended final products. For instance, you could have someone make ingots or nuggets and pass these back into the center afterwards, whereupon they'd be automatically "soft tapped" by whoever's using those 2nd tier materials to make something 3rd tier, and so forth. If the production of a certain ingredient is running behind the others, it would automatically be flagged on the given UI.

You could spice this up further by allowing combined crafting. For instance, let's say you have two players of roughly the same gear levels but with different skill load-outs, one of which performs better over the first half of a craft, and the other over the latter. One could pass it off, at the same durability and CP cost thus far, to the other. This probably ought to be limited to FC gear, though, such as market-prohibited parts creation or maybe even a new category of gear that doesn't soulbind but can only be used by players within a particular FC or FC alliance.

I believed Yoshi-P mentioned before that they are working on allowing the players to craft directly from the retainer banks? Not sure on the status of it though...

While this wouldn't really help me since I barely craft, I definitely would like to see this implemented for the sake of other crafters. Most of the crafters I know hoard materials like they're prepping for the latest apocalypse scare......

I think a "workshop" area in the inn, apartment, or house would be fine enough for me. If SE doesn't want full access anywhere in the world then fine, but crafting at home with full access to my retainers mats would be amazing! My inventory would never feel so alive and free!

Same reason that they decide against glamour logs and other form of intense storage options. If they could make X specific item uniquely stored in Y location, why not take X and put it into Player inventory instead?

Ask yourself what would be better, the ability to store only materials in 10 slots or obtaining 10 player inventory slots to use on anything? That's pretty much the give and take with a new "storage" system, they take up the same amount of resources plus having to create a new flag to say only "materials" can be stored here would definitely be excessive work.

I think one middle ground that could be met is the following:

Create a new Housing permit NPC that sells the following:

Beastmen NPC gil items:
Beastmen 1
Beastmen 2
Beastmen 3
etc
etc

Basically the NPC would sell the materials that they sell in their territory, so players wouldn't have to run back and forth and it would encourage them to complete the Beastmen storyline in order to gain this NPC's benefits of selling X beastmen sold items for the X amount you completed.

They've already shown how easy it is to add an NPC that sells a multiple list of item via the Salvage NPC, so all they would need to do is code an NPC that sells X items and base it on Y achievements, since the beastmen achievements are potentially what link the stores to selling more items upon unlocking the new rank, or maybe the rank itself. But SE does seem to use achievements/quest to have the Salvage NPC sell what they do.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

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It seems like your idea is actually pretty close to exactly what mine is! That's very similar to my overall grand idea.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Same reason that they decide against glamour logs and other form of intense storage options. If they could make X specific item uniquely stored in Y location, why not take X and put it into Player inventory instead?

Ask yourself what would be better, the ability to store only materials in 10 slots or obtaining 10 player inventory slots to use on anything? That's pretty much the give and take with a new "storage" system, they take up the same amount of resources plus having to create a new flag to say only "materials" can be stored here would definitely be excessive work..

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The difference between this and glamour log is that glamour log would hurt the economy, people wouldn't need to re-purchase certain items anymore because it would be locked to their character, that's one of the primary reasons they've cited for not wanting to do it. This doesn't hurt the economy at all as crafters

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Originally Posted by Gamer3427

hoard materials like they're prepping for the latest apocalypse scare

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This frees up inventory space from retainers to allow players to be able to purchase MORE gear. It also allows for community crafting in fluid form for free companies/groups. (If you've played FFXI) Think about the Synergy crafting system, it sometimes required more than one crafter to make certain high-end stuff, and required knowing how to balance out crystal flux etc. For this game to continue to thrive as they want and the playerbase wants we =NEED= a better crafting storage system.

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