Issues with MSI Nvidia GFX 1050 Ti - noisy gpu playing FFXIV

Apologies in advance for the wall of text. I bought a new graphics card over a month ago, was able to play my favourite games (namely Skyrim and FFXIV) on higher settings, but I've noticed within the last three weeks that the gpu seems to be making a lot more noise. Skyrim is impossible to play, and even on lowest settings within FFxiv, it's struggling and making a heck of a racket :/

I've tried the following things to no avail:

1. Checking and cleaning any dust from inside the computer, also checked graphics card is fitted properly.

2. Updated to the latest drivers, using DDU in safe mode and performing a clean install.

3. Rolling back, not once, but twice, even installing base driver that I was using when the graphics card was running well. Also using DDU and in safe mode.

4. Checking bios, making sure they are at their defaults, adjusting the bios for quietness/performance.

5. Have been unable to update the AMD chipset, Windows keeps telling me I already have the correct driver installed (driver dated from September 2014), and also in safe mode.

Below is my system specs, ever since I've had this computer, though specifications seem ok and capable, I've been told the motherboard and/or psu could be too weak, I'm not sure. My FPS is 55, even in crowded areas. I've also noticed that ffxiv.cfg doesn't have my card listed as the main adapter, despite it showing in-game within the System Configuration settings.

Windows 8.1 64bit
8GB DDR Ram
AMD FX 6350 cpu six core
Corsair VS450 psu
ASUSTek M5A97 LE R2.0 motherboard

I've run MSI Afterburner, and I haven't overclocked this machine (wouldn't know how to, to be honest) and made a note below of results whilst running FFxiv, from what I've read from Googling the results, everything seems ok but... this kind of system knowledge is a bit over my head to be honest :)

Fan speed: 51
GPU Temp: 67C
Power: 84%
GPU Usage: 81%
FB: 67%

I'm not sure what else to try, any advice would be really appreciated. I can't afford a new pc for a long time, but may be able to stretch to a few upgrades within a few months.

Your specs are fine for playing FFXIV up to a 1920x1080 resolution with high/max settings.

Your GPU temps look fine. If your CPU temps are also fine then you will need to isolate the hardware issue.

Are you certain your GPU is making the noise?

I've seen a bug on Windows 8 where if you have a lot of Windows Updates pending then your hard drive will constantly run at 100% which will slow down your system and make a ton of noise.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Your specs are fine for playing FFXIV up to a 1920x1080 resolution with high/max settings.

Your GPU temps look fine. If your CPU temps are also fine then you will need to isolate the hardware issue.

Are you certain your GPU is making the noise?

I've seen a bug on Windows 8 where if you have a lot of Windows Updates pending then your hard drive will constantly run at 100% which will slow down your system and make a ton of noise.

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Yeah I'm up to date on Windows, just checked :) I have noticed system interrupts within Task Manager, it's just isolating the fault, I've had a hard time finding what it is :/ Yeah I thought my specs were ok, but obviously this ongoing hardware issue needs to be sorted asap! Thank you for your help :)

Hey np.

So for FFXIV when you are getting 55 FPS. Was that before the issue? Or is that all you can get now at the lowest setting?

What GTX 1050 ti model do you have? Does it have a separate power plug or is it drawing only from the motherboard?

In MSI Afterburner what does it say the GPU clock is while gaming?

What resolution are you playing at?

Is VSYNC enabled?

What noise is the GPU making, Coil whine, grinding, ticking etc?

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Hey np.

So for FFXIV when you are getting 55 FPS. Was that before the issue? Or is that all you can get now at the lowest setting?

What GTX 1050 ti model do you have? Does it have a separate power plug or is it drawing only from the motherboard?

In MSI Afterburner what does it say the GPU clock is while gaming?

What resolution are you playing at?

Is VSYNC enabled?

What noise is the GPU making, Coil whine, grinding, ticking etc?

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I was getting 60 fps before the issue, and yes at the lowest setting.

It's an MSI GTX 1050 TI OCEAN-PCI express card.

I will start ffxiv and have a look at the GPU clock :) I'm playing windowed 1920 x 1080. VSYNC was enabled, I disabled it and the issue was still there. The GPU is making a slight whine/grind, but no ticking.
Edit: Core Clock says 1759mhz, memory clock 3504mhz

In LatencyMon, I noticed high DPC/ISR with usbport.sys, storport.sys, dxgkrnl.exe, and hdaudbus.sys, I found a few threads on google where people have had similar issues which is causing performance drops in gaming.

Hmmm. DPC/ISR should only cause performance issues if it's over using resources (pegging CPU @ 100%, high Ram usage, 100% HDD Usage).

Your GPU clocks look ok for that model.

Maybe check the Device Manage and make sure that there isn't anything with a ! for system drivers.

You could also try changing the PCI-e lane that your GPU is installed. That motherboard should have two available for use.

What's the power on your power supply? It's possible that your GPU ain't getting enough juice because the power supply runs at too high capacity all the time.

Thank you very much guys for your help and advice... short version of the story is, after a fresh reinstall, updating everything, I've still got system interrupts. From various forums I've read on the web, the common consensus is that my motherboard is a pile of poo and seems to develop a lot of faults, ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0, and the Corsair power supply VS450 hasn't good write ups either. As you said Driclone, it's not getting enough juice :) I think I can definitely upgrade that at least! Device manager is looking ok thankfully. Cheers again guys, I will update this post once I've reinstalled and tested just ffxiv, see how that goes.

The DCP/ISR issues aren't causing any performance issues, no high cpu or ram usage, thankfully.

Omg that's a weak power supply. My advice is getting a power supply that can pull from 700 to 900 watt and has a 80+ Gold and higher certification to ensure there's no lack of power. Preferabbly Semi or Full modular to help on the airflow in the machine. I changed mine recently because I kept getting unexpected errors and SE kept calling it a connexion issue. Turns out that the build was asking too much continuously from the power supply so it wasn't able to supply properly and it tended to cause the net connection to give out, or the gpu. Long Story short, got a new one (A seasonic 860 watt 80+ Platinum) and didn't get any issues ever since.

The reason I'm suggesting a high watt count on the power supply is in case you plan to upgrade your build in the future, so having power to spare ain't a bad idea.

Afaik "noise" is an hardware thing, and only thing that makes noise of a gpu, are its fans. Did you open the computer and checked if any cable is near/touching the fans? It also may be a fan gone out of axis. Or them just are working correctly because your environment got hot.

Cheers again guys :D Lol Driclone, I know, I was like wtf! I've got some knowledge of computers, but hardware isn't my forte. I'm thinking of getting a Corsair RM750x 80+ Gold Modular PSU, and the good news is that at the moment, the card is running a lot quieter, but I'm still going to upgrade the power supply :) I had the exact same issues as you, so the sooner I upgrade it the better!

LalaRu, I will definitely check that out, thank you :)

I would like to give you a bit of advice about PSU. I had taken A+ certification classes while I was in high school and build desktops for my family and myself. I have learned something in the past couple of years though when it comes to PSU.

To help prevent bad voltage and from burning out the PSU, you should not exceed the 80% limit of the PSU under normal max load, i.e. running the game when there is not much demand and raiding. The only times you should be going over 80% of max wattage is when there is loading of new apps or short maxing out of GPU and CPU.

So, I would add up the max voltage requirements of the HDDs, GPU, and motherboard. Set that to be the 80% because when you add in the fans and the disk drives (If you still use dvds or blu-rays), that would be when you may go over 80% limit.

I started to do this because I would burn out my PSU about every 3 years. The one I am using now has lasted me over 5 years and still puts out good voltage levels. Hope this helps.

Ok thanks Aladire, I will make note of that info :)

OMG on the PSU nonsense.

Getting a 700 or 800w is plain overkill.

NVIDIA suggests that a 300W PSU is enough for that card.

I'm running an 980 on a 600w. Total system pull is about 425W considering my card can use upwards of 200w to itself.

The graphics card fan noise can come from a few things like an improperly installed TIM under the GPU heatsink, obstruction of case fans, cpu fan, or GPU fan (by dust or cables) which limit how much hot air is being moved from the GPU.

Running furmark for an hour or two might improve the TIMs heat conductibility and lower temps afterwards, but don't look for a PSU upgrade to slow down your fans.

However, if you MUST run out and get a new PSU, I'd recommend the 550W from EVGA, which is about $50 and will leave you room for future upgrades, and I do believe those have a 5 year warranty.

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OMG on the PSU nonsense.

Getting a 700 or 800w is plain overkill.

NVIDIA suggests that a 300W PSU is enough for that card.

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This is pretty accurate. The calculated max for Panthers setup is 300w. This is alot to do with the 1050 ti pulling at most 75w since it is a model that only draws power from the PCIe lane.

A PSU actually needs to hit about 75% of its capacity to run at the highest efficiency.

Xeon, it might be nonsense for you, but it may not be for others.

Yeah depending on the build and on what you plan on doing, it can be overkill. In my case, it's not. It's what's allowing me to play and to do upgrades without suffering a lack of power, which I had prior.

Also, you recommend a 550w, but did you check the power certificates? To ensure that you don't get loads of problem with your power supply, it's always best to get an 80+ Gold certificated supply or higher, which allows you to run a power supply continuously at around 90% efficiency, no matter the load. Of course you don't want to run with a 90% load on the supply at all times so, like Judge said, it's best to stick around 75% or even lower to ensure that the supply works correctly on long term.

So yeah, again it all depends on your plans and the build you want/have, but it's definitely not a bad thing. And the one Panther chose is a good one for the price (It's just 100$ in canada so I'm guessing it's about 75 in the US). So he'll definitely be able to do what he wants with it if he upgrades his build and be able to run many graphic cards and specs.

80 plus is good and all but it doesn't define a PSU totally. These are built to be max effecient at 75%. 80plus not tested for every load possible, and even an 80plus PSU can drastically loose efficiency when only using a low percentage of it's load. A difference in the bronze to platinum rating will get you roughly 7% to 8% more efficiency. A 750W EVGA for example will run two 980tis at once, anything above that are made for tri and above GPUs.

A Bronze rated PSU will run 24/7 for many many years as long as it's from a reputable vendor such as corsiar. EVGA, and many of the other reputable manufacturers. A gold or platinum rating doesn't mean that it will last you longer and is not an indicator of longevity of a unit.

A person might save a meager $12 a year in electricity over an entire year by going with a gold or platinum, unless you live in a region such as Hawai'i where electric can cost you 6x plus as much as in the mainland US. The only time I could make a solid recommendation to a customer for a higher rated unit was when i lived there, but for the rest of the states, its not economical, not by a long shot, and a gold or plat unit could cost you 3x of what you need to spend.

But... if it makes you feel secure when you're in bed under your blankie then by all means, go for it.

Please bear in mind that I did mention that I'm not knowledgeable in building computers, so knowing what's adequate or overkill.... yeah I wouldn't know, hence why I'm asking :p I'm from the Uk btw, the psu I mentioned previously I've seen for £160, Driclone is correct in that I may add more upgrades in the future (gpu and memory being most likely), until I can buy a new computer. I don't build pcs myself but do like to get most value for money, and wouldn't want to go overkill...but like you guys said, it all depends on what one's setup is :) Thank you for the advice and input!

@panther. Hopefully we can get your game running properly too. It is good to learn about power supplies but currently if your system only pulls 300w on a 450w PSU technically it shouldn't cause issues unless it is somehow defective.

I wonder if you could run the stormblood benchmark at Max 1080p to get a baseline of where your performance sits.

https://youtu.be/EMiQ9E6nqUI

Here is a video of someone with an FX 6300 and 1050 ti. At Max 1080p

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Please bear in mind that I did mention that I'm not knowledgeable in building computers, so knowing what's adequate or overkill.... yeah I wouldn't know, hence why I'm asking :p I'm from the Uk btw, the psu I mentioned previously I've seen for £160, Driclone is correct in that I may add more upgrades in the future (gpu and memory being most likely), until I can buy a new computer. I don't build pcs myself but do like to get most value for money, and wouldn't want to go overkill...but like you guys said, it all depends on what one's setup is :) Thank you for the advice and input!

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I wasn't venting at you, just the ridiculous comments others have made about the PSU. Your current PSU can deliver 34 amps on your 12v rail. Thats enough for most GPUs out there, being the exception of some of the higher end nvidia cards, and some AMD (even lower end) cards because they're not where nvidia is on power consumption.

Before you sink any money into parts you may not need, the noise you are hearing, is it a buzzing or a high pitched whine?