New EU Servers

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05-19-2017, 04:05 AM
Lunaxia

New EU Servers

Since the subject of new EU servers being implemented has sort of been lost amidst all the furor over the data centre relocation, I thought I'd make a thread for players to share their opinions/ plans on the matter.

Are you happy that new servers are being implemented? Does it feel necessary?
Are you interested in transferring, at release or later on?
Are the incentives for transferring enough to interest you, or will you be staying where you are? Why? etc. etc.

The only issue I take with it is that there should be no gil limit for transferring, especially if they hold any hope of older FCs/ communities moving.
05-19-2017, 04:11 AM
Millerna

It's probably needed.. Even now during the supposedly quiet period, I'm getting the occasional queue when logging on to Phoenix. Character creation has also been difficult on several EU servers for quite a while.

I doubt I'll transfer, unless everyone I know on the server transfers as well.
05-19-2017, 04:17 AM
SilkaN

I honestly did not expect them to create new EU servers.
Zodiark and a few others seem to be open most of the time and highly populated servers like Ragnarok aren't as congested as Balmung.
Maybe they expect a massive wave of new players and want to take preventive measures?

As for me, I do not plan on transfering. Bads are widely spread across the Data Center and a house isn't worth leaving all these people behind.
05-19-2017, 04:19 AM
Mature

It's a great idea BUT I don't wanna transfer to a new server I got a few friends waiting for me in another EU server but I cannot move for now until Gil restriction are gone.
05-19-2017, 04:23 AM
AlexanderThorolund

It must cost them a fortune to relocate severs. Everyone goes on like they should set up a servers outside their house. Next conversation please.
05-19-2017, 04:33 AM
Zojha

Well, from what it looks like the current servers are decently populated, so if there is a noteworthy growth, they might be needed. I wouldn't know. I'd have been more conservative and first opened one, rather than two, though. Consider me indifferent here.

I personally don't intend to transfer - At most I'll make an alt so I can occasionally enjoy some lag-free gameplay.
05-19-2017, 05:02 AM
ErryK

I brought it up to my fiance, who owns our current FC, he had no idea if he wanted to move or not.

Personally, I would like to, as there's a lot of beef between our FC and a few notable people from our current server, his only worry is the Gil. But it honestly depends on how they handle transferring FCs.
05-19-2017, 05:24 AM
Aronys

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund

It must cost them a fortune to relocate severs. Everyone goes on like they should set up a servers outside their house. Next conversation please.

This isn't about the NA servers...
This is about the already announced new EU servers. Not everything is about NA.
05-19-2017, 05:32 AM
Silica-chan

Well I'm open to the thought of a transfer but I have a few friends on my current server and it's somewhat known to have quite alot of german speaking people.

I'll see how it will turn out and decide later on if I do. Might start an alt on a new server to see how it eveolves.
05-19-2017, 05:45 AM
Shilvers

I'd happily start over to help populate a new server just not if that server drops the same day as stormblood
05-19-2017, 05:49 AM
Rakiria

Since as of right now there's not really any friends on my server who I couldn't part with that are against moving, and a few people I'd like to not run into ever again, I'm planning on moving. I'm an fc leader though so I'm still not sure about how to handle that, especially since I'd like to keep that on the new server, and also get us a house there. I really hope they will get the servers up before the 20th when stormblood launches, so I can prepare that whole stuff, since I'm most likely just gonna give my fc leader status to someone else and want to have time to create a new fc, level up, and hopefully grab a nice house. I also pre-ordered SB so it'd be nice to not play 4 days with probably long login queues, then transfer, then focus on settling in and only then getting to continue with SB...
05-19-2017, 06:05 AM
Shilvers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakiria

Since as of right now there's not really any friends on my server who I couldn't part with that are against moving, and a few people I'd like to not run into ever again, I'm planning on moving. I'm an fc leader though so I'm still not sure about how to handle that, especially since I'd like to keep that on the new server, and also get us a house there. I really hope they will get the servers up before the 20th when stormblood launches, so I can prepare that whole stuff, since I'm most likely just gonna give my fc leader status to someone else and want to have time to create a new fc, level up, and hopefully grab a nice house. I also pre-ordered SB so it'd be nice to not play 4 days with probably long login queues, then transfer, then focus on settling in and only then getting to continue with SB...

Would indeed be nice to see the servers maybe coming June between the 1st or the 10th any later and theirs going to be a period where new players wanting to either start a fresh or transfer will be organising free company's or other things to that nature instead of playing through the stormblood content maybe we'll get some information in the next live-letter.
05-19-2017, 06:20 AM
Sarevok_Thordin

I have no interest in the EU servers as my friends are on NA servers and won't transfer.

The **ONLY** thing that would tempt me to move is cross DC contact with my friends and that includes being able to visit houses/city districts. Other than that, trying to appeal to me is going to fail hard.
05-19-2017, 06:33 AM
Scott

I would switch to an EU Server if they implement a service that lets me take my house with me.
Loosing my house is a no go for me.
05-19-2017, 06:40 AM
Shilvers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

I would switch to an EU Server if they implement a service that lets me take my house with me.
Loosing my house is a no go for me.

For players who own personal housing, we are planning a number of provisions including a reimbursement for the full price of the estate, and compensation for the cost of furnishings which we will add in subsequent updates moving forward.

So guessing you could just buy a new one.
05-19-2017, 06:45 AM
Scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shilvers

For players who own personal housing, we are planning a number of provisions including a reimbursement for the full price of the estate, and compensation for the cost of furnishings which we will add in subsequent updates moving forward.

So guessing you could just buy a new one.

If it would be so easy to get a house. Houses are mostly taken the minute the Server goes up. Its no garantee that you get a house when you switch Server.
05-19-2017, 06:50 AM
Shilvers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

If it would be so easy to get a house. Houses are mostly taken the minute the Server goes up. Its no garantee that you get a house when you switch Server.

I guess I mean very little is known on if they will even open up housing right away
05-19-2017, 06:56 AM
BloodRubyXII

Are you happy that new servers are being implemented? Does it feel necessary?
Didn't ask for it, doesn't seem necessary, but their stats are better than whatever we can theorise about.

Are you interested in transferring, at release or later on?
I'll be going by myself.

Are the incentives for transferring enough to interest you, or will you be staying where you are? Why? etc. etc.
Yes. I can take my gold with me which I'll need to set up a new house, if these servers are going to survive then someone's gotta take the leap and make initiative, maybe I'll make an EU RP server out of it, or open a PvP community there, idk yet. But the prospect of what you can do with a new server excites me. I also want to avoid what are likely to be horrendous queues in early Stormblood. Just no.
05-19-2017, 07:33 AM
Kyouki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin

I have no interest in the EU servers as my friends are on NA servers and won't transfer.

The **ONLY** thing that would tempt me to move is cross DC contact with my friends and that includes being able to visit houses/city districts. Other than that, trying to appeal to me is going to fail hard.

This. Plus being able to play ANY content cross data center. Even if its fates or what ever.

Maybe SE believes that with the higher ping most EU ppl on NA servers will be transfering anyways. I dunno.
05-19-2017, 07:41 AM
Sarevok_Thordin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyouki

This. Plus being able to play ANY content cross data center. Even if its fates or what ever.

Maybe SE believes that with the higher ping most EU ppl on NA servers will be transfering anyways. I dunno.

Who knows, mind you, why can't we simply choose which DC we wish to do our instances on....it can't be THAT hard can it?
05-19-2017, 08:56 AM
Belhi

I am always wary whenever someone says, "it can't be that hard". :P

I suspect there are networking issues with having cross datacentre grouping. I might be wrong but cant you only group with people within your on Datacentre? If it was easy it would probably have made sense to make things cross datacentre before now since it would greatly increase the pool of available players for queues and grouping.
05-19-2017, 09:35 AM
Sarevok_Thordin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belhi

I am always wary whenever someone says, "it can't be that hard". :P

I suspect there are networking issues with having cross datacentre grouping. I might be wrong but cant you only group with people within your on Datacentre? If it was easy it would probably have made sense to make things cross datacentre before now since it would greatly increase the pool of available players for queues and grouping.

If they allowed cross DC play, this problem would be vastly reduced and those EU servers would fill up faster.

Finding a proper server for you and global friends to play the game on shouldn't be a game in itself.
05-19-2017, 09:59 AM
savageink

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belhi

I am always wary whenever someone says, "it can't be that hard". :P

I suspect there are networking issues with having cross datacentre grouping. I might be wrong but cant you only group with people within your on Datacentre? If it was easy it would probably have made sense to make things cross datacentre before now since it would greatly increase the pool of available players for queues and grouping.

That would lead to almost exactly the same issue as playing on a different DC. Only now you would have people at wildly different latency entering an instance on a server without knowing what they would get until actually connected. " Awesome! I got a 32 ping to the instance in Cali...everybody else is connected from finland at 400..crap!"
05-19-2017, 04:07 PM
Rakiria

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin

Who knows, mind you, why can't we simply choose which DC we wish to do our instances on....it can't be THAT hard can it?

Yes it can be... I'm pretty sure the only existing connection between the datacenters is the lobby server, the physical datacetner servers are in completely differen places on the world, so if you were to play with someone from Chaos while on Aether would you not only get the ping of chaos, you would get the ping of connecting to Aether and from there to Chaos, and if you throw in some japanese datacenter too and make a group of players from all those, you would probably need a new server they all connect to, which means adding another physical server location, and more people complaining about ping, and the costs for those servers needs to be covered too... I mean, I'm no professional in tech stuff, but it's not hard to understand that it is indeed THAT hard.

Edit:
Or wait, actually, you already can choose a DC to do instances in! You just have to have your character on a server there.

Please stop confusing devs for evil little fairies who only don't do things because they enjoy to see the community suffer, and not because it's too hard / too expensive / wouldn't be able to work out as planned and thus isn't worth it.