(Dev request) can we get toggleable poldrens please

I would like to be able to toggle on and off the sholder of some armor sets with large poldrens such as the sky rat set as well as a some other sets I don't feel this will be to difficult to achieve since I've seen screens hots where they are hiden client side but if I'm wrong please let me know

This is actually something I'd be onboard with.
Cant see it happening, but I also share your love of pauldron-less equipment.

Well idk i meen I look at in the same regard as toggle able helms it's the same thing damn near and most poldrens arnt even attached to the equipment there just floating there if the insist on doing that then I insist they should be hideable lol

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I'd love to have slight alterations available for key sets. I don't know if pauldron removal would be worthwhile as a universal toggle like helm display, but there are many, many sets that are ruined for me by that one or two things too many, too large, or too gaudy.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

I'd love to have slight alterations available for key sets. I don't know if pauldron removal would be worthwhile as a universal toggle like helm display, but there are many, many sets that are ruined for me by that one or two things too many, too large, or too gaudy.

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I agree 100% though it might be alot of work to make sepretly sets but if that's what it takes I'm game lol

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Originally Posted by RubyCirha

I agree 100% though it might be alot of work to make sepretly sets but if that's what it takes I'm game lol

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It usually just tends to be the removal of some part that I'd image there is already a texture beneath, e.g. SE's butt-wing fetish on raid gear (Dreadwyrm caster and Alexander melee), the little hallow axe-heads / spoiler things on the Noct fending gear, the extra skirt fluff component on Conqueror's, etc. When it's just asset removal, I'd hope the process wouldn't cost much. That said, I see how essentially admitting that "to some players, this particular bit not only a waste of development, but also a detriment to the rest of the item/set" could leave a foul taste in SE's mouth, likely to the point where we'd never see anything like this.

This is a nice idea. Paldrons On/Off, i would love it!

This is one perk of being a Lalafell (since we don't have shoulders).

Do you want to lose an arm? Because that's how you lose an arm. Unlike in WoW, where spaulders and pauldrons are used for style, in FFXIV, tanks and dragoons (along with some other pieces on other Jobs) have these pieces of armor for the same reason we have them on real suits of armor, to protect the joint from attacks from the side, above, head-on, or behind.

So... no, I'm against this, sorry. If you want to look like a novice who is about to lose their arm, there are already plenty of options. Leave the realistic armor where it is.

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Originally Posted by RubyCirha

Well idk i meen I look at in the same regard as toggle able helms it's the same thing damn near and most poldrens arnt even attached to the equipment there just floating there if the insist on doing that then I insist they should be hideable lol

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Pauldrons kind of floated above the shoulder in real life too. Often there would be a surprising amount of room inside of one to accommodate for layers and movement. They usually rested on top of the shoulder and would be attached using small straps. Those straps probably don't look that great with the resolution the game works with, so SE likely removed them for aesthetics.

It would be nice for the armor pieces that have extremely floaty pauldrons such as ishgardian knights set which fully disconnects and floats beside your head during sprint.


And with sprint not costing TP and thus likely to be used much more in stormblood we are gonna see flailing pauldrons even more so it would be a good option to be able to turn them off.

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Originally Posted by RubyCirha

I would like to be able to toggle on and off the sholder of some armor sets with large poldrens such as the sky rat set as well as a some other sets I don't feel this will be to difficult to achieve since I've seen screens hots where they are hiden client side but if I'm wrong please let me know

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Yes. Please yes. I hate shoulder spikes.

Greetings, adventurers.

Thanks for the request! As a glamour enthusiast myself, I can certainly understand why some pieces of body armor would look great without shoulder gear.

Some gear that currently exists in-game is designed with shoulder plates, while others are designed without it. For that reason, if we were to implement an On / Off toggle for shoulder gear, all of the existing gear would need to be redesigned to have two versions: one with shoulder gear visible and one without. This would be a lot of design work that would take away from new designs being implemented in the future! For that reason, we currently have no plans to implement this type of feature.

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

Greetings, adventurers.

Thanks for the request! As a glamour enthusiast myself, I can certainly understand why some pieces of body armor would look great without shoulder gear.

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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How about just less shoulder pads in general? I've never once looked at a piece of gear and said, "You know what this is missing? Shoulder pads."

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

Greetings, adventurers.

Thanks for the request! As a glamour enthusiast myself, I can certainly understand why some pieces of body armor would look great without shoulder gear.

Some gear that currently exists in-game is designed with shoulder plates, while others are designed without it. For that reason, if we were to implement an On / Off toggle for shoulder gear, all of the existing gear would need to be redesigned to have two versions: one with shoulder gear visible and one without. This would be a lot of design work that would take away from new designs being implemented in the future! For that reason, we currently have no plans to implement this type of feature.

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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this isn't the case for the visor on/off toggle though?

Just stop putting shoulder pads on gear. We aren't playing football.

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Originally Posted by storm

this isn't the cast for the visor on/off toggle though?

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They did have to animate or adjust them for /visor

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

all of the existing gear would need to be redesigned to have two versions: one with shoulder gear visible and one without.

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I don't understand why this request is much different from the /visor feature we got. It's not like you'd have to go back and ADD pauldrons to pieces that don't have them.

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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I would love a version of Suit of Astrum Mail without the shoulder and chest parts which look like copper
http://imgur.com/15hEXKM.png

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I don't understand why this request is much different from the /visor feature we got. It's not like you'd have to go back and ADD pauldrons to pieces that don't have them.

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Probably a lot of armor skins have nothing underneath the pauldrons, as in, taking them off would just leave a either a gaping whole where you could see through your character's digital skeleton or some weird flat color chopped off at an odd angle. It's highly unlikely that when armor is designed in the first place they bother to texture the shoulder areas that will eventually be covered over with the pauldrons.

Best you could hope for is for them to include that as an option when designing new pieces of gear. Makes more sense that way. It would be much easier for them to do and a more practical use of devs' time to include it from the start than go back and do a ton of editing on all the old armors. Especially since getting SE to make any sort of change/upgrade to any cosmetic aspect of the game is always like pulling teeth.

It could be worse.

I'd like to see Roman inspired armor. Maybe we'll get our wish when we get to see the Garlean stuff.

Just be careful with the shoulder pads. Try avoiding them or at least make them way smaller and less pronounced.
I personally want to see more plate and metallic armour designs for tanks and melee DPS gears.
We have too much of leather/cloth type while the more classic "job" and medieval metallic designs are rare.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They did have to animate or adjust them for /visor

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But not for "all of the existing gear" as Luxpheras' post suggested. The vast majority of gear doesn't do anything with the /visor setting. It's only used on a few select pieces, and this would be no different.

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

Greetings, adventurers.

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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Pretty much every gear I see with big shoulderpads, I think how great the gear is but those shoulderpads...The best example to me is the sky rat harness model. I dont know about other races, but on au ra the shoulderpad just floats over the body and looks rediculous. There's a lack of nice form fitting chest gears, and those that exist tend to have shoulderpads like that which look out of place.

Some players like shoulder pads. I tank so I would like to feel like a tank. I understand that for some cloth or leather armor should be taken back, but plate armor should feel like it does what it is design for.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

Some players like shoulder pads.

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Also, if you're really that desperate to avoid big bulky pauldrons, play a lalafell. Pretty hard to have big bulky pauldrons when you don't have when you don't even have shoulders.

Unrelated to pauldrons but can we get a cloak? Like the hood on the cotton cowl with a cape draping down the back and without the robe?

I wanted to make an orlandeau glamour but there's nothing like that in game.

What is this. Why are people against shoulder pads!? Soon, you'll be asking to ditch heavy armor altogether, no elbow or knee joints, no tasset, no gauntlets or greaves...

Please stop, let them continue to develop beautiful armor for the tanks. If you don't like it, why don't you go ahead an play any of the (oh so many) classes that don't rely on heavy armor?


We literally only have three classes that can use heavy sets of armor, versus 12 that don't.

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Originally Posted by Odstarva

Why are people against shoulder pads!? Soon, you'll be asking to ditch heavy armor altogether

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I can only speak for myself, of course, but I like heavy armour that has more realistic looking shoulder pieces. But even though the pauldrons on realistic armour are big enough to allow freedom of movement, they're not all that much bigger than your shoulders themselves. Huge exaggerated ones, like bent shields hovering above your shoulders, just look comical and out of place. Those are the only ones I'd want to be able to remove. (Though I don't know that it necessarily needs a new feature. Just more gear options with a realistic style works, too.)

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Originally Posted by Odstarva

What is this. Why are people against shoulder pads!? Soon, you'll be asking to ditch heavy armor altogether, no elbow or knee joints, no tasset, no gauntlets or greaves...

Please stop, let them continue to develop beautiful armor for the tanks. If you don't like it, why don't you go ahead an play any of the (oh so many) classes that don't rely on heavy armor?


We literally only have three classes that can use heavy sets of armor, versus 12 that don't.

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Its not just tanks who get shoulder pauldrons. Why do I need shoulder pauldrons as a Bard or a White Mage?
Its not just heavy armor that has these things. For example:
http://i.imgur.com/OEXWfq4.png
http://i.imgur.com/aFA5K2kl.png
This is just a couple examples of pauldrons on jobs that are NOT tanks or classes that wear heavy armor. (and in the first image, the pauldron off the left shoulder isnt even ATTACHED, it hangs there in mid air.)
I get that many of the pauldrons were there to give an aesthetic touch to the piece of gear, but in some cases it just looks down right wrong.
This is exactly why folks want a shoulder pauldron TOGGLE. So that those who do like it can keep it. And those that dont can turn it off. If they can do that w/ Visor, they can do it with /pauldrons

It seems pretty logical that since the system was never designed to have separate pauldrons, it treats the armor for the chest and arms as one unit. It would have to be a full reskin, just like adding a cloak to an outfit. And would add a full chest piece to the database. Sounds like a lot of work since there are a ton of armor sets with shoulders. If they were separate, it would be easy like with heads where it pretends the head slot doesn't exist.

I'll like a shoulder pad-less and the huge strip removed from the skyrat top piece, the female version of course as the males are shirtless.
If the devs choose to make this they can add a male version as well.

I don't have a picture but without the huge shoulder Pad and the strip the outfit looks nice with just the tank top.

Not shoulder-plate, but still related:

Please make a version of the Gnath Thorax without the silly shell in the rear! I love the tattered cape and worn scale armor but the shell on the rear looks very silly.

http://i.imgur.com/WdLXyBk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JyjvkQO.png

It would be super mega amazing if we had a version without the shell! Or at least make new sets that incorporate a rolled scarf/cape around the neck:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080706174016

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

Not shoulder-plate, but still related:

Please make a version of the Gnath Thorax without the silly shell in the rear! I love the tattered cape and worn scale armor but the shell on the rear looks very silly.

http://i.imgur.com/WdLXyBk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JyjvkQO.png

It would be super mega amazing if we had a version without the shell! Or at least make new sets that incorporate a rolled scarf/cape around the neck:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080706174016

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It's Gnath gear.

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

Greetings, adventurers.

Thanks for the request! As a glamour enthusiast myself, I can certainly understand why some pieces of body armor would look great without shoulder gear.

Some gear that currently exists in-game is designed with shoulder plates, while others are designed without it. For that reason, if we were to implement an On / Off toggle for shoulder gear, all of the existing gear would need to be redesigned to have two versions: one with shoulder gear visible and one without. This would be a lot of design work that would take away from new designs being implemented in the future! For that reason, we currently have no plans to implement this type of feature.

But don't fret! If you have any specific gear that you'd like to see designed without shoulder plates, tell us here. I'll relay the requests over to the dev. team for future consideration!

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augmented temple cyclas maybe?

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Originally Posted by Luxpheras

Greetings, adventurers.

Thanks for the request! As a glamour enthusiast myself, I can certainly understand why some pieces of body armor would look great without shoulder gear.

Some gear that currently exists in-game is designed with shoulder plates, while others are designed without it. For that reason, if we were to implement an On / Off toggle for shoulder gear, all of the existing gear would need to be redesigned to have two versions: one with shoulder gear visible and one without. This would be a lot of design work that would take away from new designs being implemented in the future! For that reason, we currently have no plans to implement this type of feature.

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But there's headgear that /visor doesn't afffect because there's no visor adjustment... why couldn't it be the same with /pauldrons?

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

This would probably require that they add new armors with the pauldrons removed, seeing how there is no simple box to check off to hide it like in other mmos.

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Thank you for the clarification there! Appreciated! That makes more sense now actually.

This would probably require that they add new armors with the pauldrons removed, seeing how there is no simple box to check off to hide it like in other mmos.

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Originally Posted by MiniPrinny

Do you want to lose an arm? Because that's how you lose an arm. Unlike in WoW, where spaulders and pauldrons are used for style, in FFXIV, tanks and dragoons (along with some other pieces on other Jobs) have these pieces of armor for the same reason we have them on real suits of armor, to protect the joint from attacks from the side, above, head-on, or behind.

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Unforutnately some armors seems to have shoulder pads that are solely for Roes, and end up floating 2 inches above the shoulder on most races. Even on armors that do have shoulder/neck protection in place.