EXP Gear and FC EXP Buffs in Palace of the Dead

Hi SE team,

I would like to suggest the ability to get EXP from using gear pieces like Brand-new Ring, Friendship Circlet, the pre-order erring, or even FC experience buff.

They would help a lot of people level up their jobs fast and give the motivation to the ones who didn't start yet.

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Potd is already the fastest lvling available. Cmon.

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

Hi SE team,

I would like to suggest the ability to get EXP from using gear pieces like Brand-new Ring, Friendship Circlet, the pre-order erring, or even FC experience buff.

They would help a lot of people level up their jobs fast and give the motivation to the ones who didn't start yet.

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I'm confused. What are you asking? Many of the XP buffs in the game already stack, and PoTD gives good XP also, you can very quickly level, what more is needed?

I think they should do this, but only to affect the experience earned within PotD. Because that would be hilariously useless!

However, if they were actually to apply bonuses to the completion reward, they should do so for all completion and quest rewards too. Which I don't really think they should do, but I wouldn't complain!

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm confused. What are you asking? Many of the XP buffs in the game already stack, and PoTD gives good XP also, you can very quickly level, what more is needed?

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My idea is that none of these buffs work in potd, and they are being underused by many people for that reason. potd has the best leveling XP, so people would not go to dungeons to level up where these buffs work at. My suggestion was to help get more XP from potd, and find a better use of these items.

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

My idea is that none of these buffs work in potd, and they are being underused by many people for that reason. potd has the best leveling XP, so people would not go to dungeons to level up where these buffs work at. My suggestion was to help get more XP from potd, and find a better use of these items.

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When you say none are used, I'm guessing you mean you don't get the benefit of the buff with the XP granted after 10 floors? That would be nice, but still leveli9ng is already extremely easy and quick and the buffs we already have can make leveling criminally easy via daily roulette if you're a tank.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

When you say none are used, I'm guessing you mean you don't get the benefit of the buff with the XP granted after 10 floors? That would be nice, but still leveli9ng is already extremely easy and quick and the buffs we already have can make leveling criminally easy via daily roulette if you're a tank.

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Yes, you don't get any benefit of these items for any of the floors. I totally agree, it is so easy, but with the number of jobs still to level and doing a lot of other stuff in the game and irl, it would take a lot of time for someone who don't have much time to level while they try to keep up with other things.

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

Yes, you don't get any benefit of these items for any of the floors. I totally agree, it is so easy, but with the number of jobs still to level and doing a lot of other stuff in the game and irl, it would take a lot of time for someone who don't have much time to level while they try to keep up with other things.

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Gotcha, in that case, please accept my retraction of my original post and I support this idea... :)

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm confused. What are you asking? Many of the XP buffs in the game already stack, and PoTD gives good XP also, you can very quickly level, what more is needed?

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An NPC that instantly makes them 60 with all their skills unlocked, what else?

I'm sorry but I don't support this idea.

Potd has proven itself to have very little competition when it comes to leveling. Before its existence, there seemed to be a balance between DF, fates and other smaller exp venues. Potd crushes them all in terms of rate.

We should be looking to increase exp gains and rates from other exp venues instead of potd

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

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This is the funniest responce to anything I've ever seen! lol

The whole drawback of PotD is that it gives you experience all at once that isn't effected by anything other than your armoury bonus. Having items affect the experience total by increasing the payout by a percentage just defeats that drawback. It's either increase EXP by a percentage (dungeons) or a huge chunk that is static (PotD), you can't have both.

I kind of agree that allowing gear experience bonuses, food bonuses, and FC action bonuses to affect PotD experience is a little overkill. Even if an individual can only play a couple hours a day, leveling is still ridiculously easy in this game.

Last night, for example, I did PotD from floor 1 all the way to 100. Took about 5-ish hours with my premade group of LS friends. My PLD started off at level 33, and now she's level 42. Just from PotD. So I think buffing that experience further would just be overkill.

I agree with ErryK. You can either have percentage based experience gain, or static, but you can't have both.

Maybe if it only help to level up faster in PotD, but don't get added to the exp outside of PotD.

But you can't use it anyway, because all gears and weapons are useless in PotD by design and lore.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

We should be looking to increase exp gains and rates from other exp venues instead of potd

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Or nerfing PotD exp

I would like exp bonuses to be applied to all exp.

Thank you everyone for your opinions. I totally understand that PotD amount of exp that gives is crazy.
All I'm saying is that these bonuses are being underused by the PotD and people only use them for first job then
almost never get used again. I feel like the developers should give them a purpose.

Removing, as drastically decreasing the amount of real class experience people get from PoTD levelsets would be a good start. All the bonuses you mention, by their nature, are added bonus for kills. They do not affect the quest exp, nor duty exp. Adding them to the PoTD experience outside of it would be a huge design difference, which would make people want them for all exp. You already level up too fast in this game. If you want them to be used just, erm, run something else than PoTD.

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Originally Posted by Sida

Removing, as drastically decreasing the amount of real class experience people get from PoTD levelsets would be a good start.

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PotD gave players a new choice on how to level their jobs and I love it. Do not touch please.

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

Hi SE team,

I would like to suggest the ability to get EXP from using gear pieces like Brand-new Ring, Friendship Circlet, the pre-order erring, or even FC experience buff.

They would help a lot of people level up their jobs fast and give the motivation to the ones who didn't start yet.

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Hi SE Team,

please make the exp and char lvl gaining progress in potd just temporarily - remove them if you left that strange dng. though people can try out new cls and new skills but we don't find just noobs in dailys and grp content out of it. it really pisses me of that someone is asking for buffing potd even more... people who use this way of leveling fucked up everyone else gameplay just right now and it won't get any better if SE will boost this bullshit even more... potd is just a hugh gamedesign failure... .____.

I wouldn't necessarily call it game design failure. As a concept it's very nice "and now for something completely different" addition to the game. If just they'd drastically reduce the "normal game" experience it gives.

its just awful that you can level your chars to 50+... at 60 dailys I want meet people who can actually play their cls at least to their core elements (tank keeping aggro on mobs with more than 2 enemies and healers who actually know what esuna is...) - they should cap the exp at lvl 50. or even better remove it entirely out of potd...

df is broken since... I m just waiting for the potions as well... after that potd chars are just something we can smile about -> it will getting even worse with SB.

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

All I'm saying is that these bonuses are being underused by the PotD and people only use them for first job then
almost never get used again. I feel like the developers should give them a purpose.

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I'm using them for Leveling Roulettes. Why do you think they don't have a purpose?

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

Thank you everyone for your opinions. I totally understand that PotD amount of exp that gives is crazy.
All I'm saying is that these bonuses are being underused by the PotD and people only use them for first job then
almost never get used again. I feel like the developers should give them a purpose.

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Do something that actually uses those bonuses except PotD. Also, first job only? NOTHING that increases EXP by a % is locked to your first job, you can use it on any job as long as it meets the requirements, even crafters and gatherers are affected by the +% of EXP on those pre-order items, because they do not specify "DoW/DoM only". The only way those items are useless is if you've got everything at level cap because the exp multiplier does not apply anymore.

The Idea is so LOL it almost made me cry....

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Originally Posted by SilkaN

I'm using them for Leveling Roulettes. Why do you think they don't have a purpose?

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They sound like they believe that the EXP buffing gear doesn't have a purpose just because no gear effects your anything when you're in Palace of the Dead. They've even said 'Oh I don't have the time to level all my classes up' in a previous post

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Originally Posted by Shlinkx

Yes, you don't get any benefit of these items for any of the floors. I totally agree, it is so easy, but with the number of jobs still to level and doing a lot of other stuff in the game and irl, it would take a lot of time for someone who don't have much time to level while they try to keep up with other things.

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People shouldn't have to keep saying how Palace is the easiest way to level up right now. It just sounds like 'Oh I'm busy a lot IRL so I want more EXP for my classes I'm speed leveling', so no, no support for this at all.

If anything from gear actually changed anything stat wise while in Palace, an EXP buff could be counted as a stat multiplier, they'd probably have to change how gear functions while there. Right now the only thing gear does for anyone, is act like glamour in there, and it should stay like that.

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Originally Posted by Neela

its just awful that you can level your chars to 50+... at 60 dailys I want meet people who can actually play their cls at least to their core elements (tank keeping aggro on mobs with more than 2 enemies and healers who actually know what esuna is...)

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I totally agree with you. To be honest. I would never level up a job until at least I mastered 80% of the that jobs I have. There should be a place where people should learn their jobs better and have a good level up method.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

NOTHING that increases EXP by a % is locked to your first job.

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I didn't mean it like that. what I meant is that when you finish leveling your first job. Most people would try to use PotD more than anything else, so the use of them would decrease.

Anyway, thanks for everyone's opinion. It was an idea which might not worked fully for the better of the game. Thank you for let me think of it again and changing my mind