Silence the Orchestration!

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I was sitting in South Shroud just now doing some gathering/crafting and this really nice music comes on, lasts for a short while, and then silence for a few minutes before it coming on again. I'd like for us to be able to do something similar with our Orchestrations. I'm officially requesting that SE make a 2 minutes of silence orchestration scroll and make it available for 1k gil on some npc.

Please like to upvote this so that it will appear on the devs radar. Even if you wouldn't personally use this, it wouldn't hurt anyone to have this in the game either and would only take a couple mins of the devs time to actually develop while working on a patch/expansion.

Alternatively, let us define a break time between tracks on our playlist, pls!

Mute button is your friend, or turn the music off :p

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

Mute button is your friend, or turn the music off :p

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But if you had silence tracks, you could work them into your Orchestrion playlist and not have to press the mute every three minutes or so...

I probably wouldn't use this, but it might be cool if there could actually be several different length silence tracks, or just the ability to add a timed pause to an orchestrion playlist. You could use pauses of varying length as transitions in your playlists, etc. Might be fun to play with.

Actually this would be a nice Idea! Like some "The Emperors New Orchestrion Roll"

Could imagine this for some Teather Acts really good! :o

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Originally Posted by Luna_Ariana

Actually this would be a nice Idea! Like some "The Emperors New Orchestrion Roll"

Could imagine this for some Teather Acts really good! :o

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Yes please sell me a literal sheet of paper

(No actually, I'm cool with this idea, I just think it's hilarious in hindsight)

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

Mute button is your friend, or turn the music off :p

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The entire idea behind this request is so that people don't have to press the mute button every few minutes, and then unmute into mid song. It's just another way to build a set list. Like I said in the OP, even if you wouldn't use such a feature, there's no reason to oppose this at all.

As an alternative to creating a new scroll, such as an Emperors New Scroll, the devs could use existing items. We already have grade I through V Blank Orchestration Scrolls. Just let us use them as items where the grade level corresponds to the length of silence, and also keep them as materials in the construction of new orch scrolls.

That's a great idea. I'd love to not have to hear the housing area music when I'm not playing the orchestron, or just want to have a bit of silence.

I don't know that I'd necessarily want it as a scroll since that would mean it would take up a spot. I think I'd rather they implemented a way to have pauses between tracks that you could toggle on or off.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I don't know that I'd necessarily want it as a scroll since that would mean it would take up a spot. I think I'd rather they implemented a way to have pauses between tracks that you could toggle on or off.

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It's not a bad idea, but doing something like this would basically require the devs to overhaul the entire Orchestration system. It's a small QoL improvement that probably isn't worth that level of effort. The alternative is the tossing in of scrolls to achieve the same effect, which would not be nearly as demanding on the devs' time, making it a much more realistic request to make of them.

Yeah I know but from working as a programmer myself band-aid fixes make my butt twitch :D I don't always get the chance to do it the right way, either, but I always try to where I can.

Of course, but one should consider how a programmers answer to that request would function in practice. The first thing that comes to mind to me is that the break would be interjected between every song in the playlist. That leaves no option for, say, playing 2-3 songs, then a break, then a couple more. I don't really see it as a bandaid fix, as "blank scrolls" are exactly what I think are most appropriate for this request. Not just from a programming standpoint, but from a practical and user flexibility stand point as well.

I'd love this. Just the sound of a crackling fireplace and grandfather clock, in my cozy little house.

As a side request: Some other ambient tracks as well, please; such as rain, thunder, gales, along with combinations of them.

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

I'd love this. Just the sound of a crackling fireplace and grandfather clock, in my cozy little house.

As a side request: Some other ambient tracks as well, please; such as rain, thunder, gales, along with combinations of them.

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Yes please, more ambience is good.

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Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir

This thread isn't what people think.

I was sitting in South Shroud just now doing some gathering/crafting and this really nice music comes on, lasts for a short while, and then silence for a few minutes before it coming on again. I'd like for us to be able to do something similar with our Orchestrations. I'm officially requesting that SE make a 2 minutes of silence orchestration scroll and make it available for 1k gil on some npc.

Please like to upvote this so that it will appear on the devs radar. Even if you wouldn't personally use this, it wouldn't hurt anyone to have this in the game either and would only take a couple mins of the devs time to actually develop while working on a patch/expansion.

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Silence on a loop in a dimly lit house sounds erie... take all my upvotes!

We could ask them to implement a feature in our orchestrion to set a gap between music, toggling it anywhere from No gap to 5mins.

I love this idea. I loved the orchestrion at first, but I haven't turned it on in weeks because the constant music started to wear me out. I love those times when I'm out gathering and it goes all quiet (think it's maybe when dusk falls or something). And then you'll hear a wolf howl. Bliss. Lots more ambient sounds please as well as those moments of silence. Rain on the roof. Crackling fire. Howling winds. The thunder in the Sylphlands is awesome when there's no background music drowning it out. Don't get me wrong, I love XIV's music - thanks Uematsu & Soken - but silence just makes the music more thrilling when it starts again

Just... toggle the BGM off if you want quiet? I get wanting ambience options for inside the house, but a "silent" orchestrion roll is just a pointless waste of resources. It takes less than 5 seconds to turn off.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Just... toggle the BGM off if you want quiet? I get wanting ambience options for inside the house, but a "silent" orchestrion roll is just a pointless waste of resources. It takes less than 5 seconds to turn off.

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How is it a waste of resscoures to make scrolls that are having no sounds or ambient sounds on them? It should be as much work (or maybe even less) than making scrolls with music.
Really with this logic we wouldnt need any scrolls at all, because you can just go into the area where the music plays, if you want to hear it

The reason I like and support this idea is that it allows you to really "compose" the playlist for your home. The suggestion to just turn of the music for 2 minutes and then turn it on again is pretty unpractical. If you want a playlist with Song A - Silence - Song B right now, it would require you to put a song into the silence space, mute your game (or the BGM) for the duration of that song and turn it on again... it would also only work for you, so anyone whos visiting your house couldnt experience the way you intend it to be. You might also miss the start of Song B if you turn the music on to late, starting in the middle of a song blasting through the house.

I'd very much like this with a "fade in, fade out"-feature (I dont know if the game already provides that when making playlists - I would hope so though...), to allow us to really compose an atmosphere for our homes!

So +1 for silence and ambient sounds, please!

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Originally Posted by Vidu

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I said I get ambience noises (I like the rain idea), it's silence that's pointless. The whole point of scrolls is to be able to listen to music when you like in your house; you can already do that with silence by toggling the BGM off. I'd say that's practical enough.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

I said I get ambience noises (I like the rain idea), it's silence that's pointless. The whole point of scrolls is to be able to listen to music when you like in your house; you can already do that with silence by toggling the BGM off. I'd say that's practical enough.

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Maybe you don't have to get it. It's not a simple matter of "toggling" the music on and off. It's a several step process that doesn't actually turn the music off even, it just mutes it. You think when I'm doing a long crafting session that I want to stop every couple of minutes to turn it on/off manually? Get real. If you wouldn't want it or can't see a reason for YOU to use it, that's fine. Don't use it if implemented. But if you've been reading the posts here, there are plenty of people who can see a legitimate use for this that would enhance their enjoyment of their houses/apartments/FC rooms and probably many more who either don't come to the forums or can't be bothered to reply. You've got no legs to stand on to oppose this. Your suggestion of "toggle the music off" does nothing to contribute to the conversation. Some people might want something like: Song 1, 2 min silence, Song 2, Song 3, 2 min of ambient noise, repeat, but any lack of comprehension as to why someone would want to do something like that is no reason for you to dismiss the idea out of hand.

FFXIV has wonderful music. It's just that sometimes you need a break. Believe it or not having silence between tracks is a NORMAL thing. You don't go to a concert and listen to 3 hours of straight music. They play a song, talk, change instruments, etc between songs for a couple min, then play another song. There are commercials and DJ chatter on the radio between songs. The list goes on and on. Even the music in the open world is designed this way: a 1-3 minute track, 2 minutes of silence (not ambient noise, that was playing during the music too though the music might have overpowered it), then play of the track again. Some people might want to recreate that (like me). Some people might just want to have silence on their orch in order to auto toggle the games music in their house to off. That's fine too, considering turning the orch off just means that default housing music plays, and people really shouldn't have to go through the hassle of manually turning their music off every time they enter their housing.

It's called a Quality of Life adjustment for a reason. Stuff like this aren't meant to be game breaking. It's to give an option and flexibility to people who would use it. I'm sure when Materia Meld NPCs were added a lot of people didn't see a need for them or don't use them to this day. That's fine. The NPCs aren't hurting those people or detracting from their gameplay experience. There ARE people who use the NPCs, gaining a benefit from their presence. The presence of those NPCs has improved the QoL of those that use them. It's no different with silence/ambient noise tracks: either you love the idea and will use it, or you don't care/don't see a point and won't use it. The second group of people do not and should not have any bearing on the first and whether the idea is a good one or not.

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Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir

I'd like for us to be able to do something similar with our Orchestrations. I'm officially requesting that SE make a 2 minutes of silence orchestration scroll and make it available for 1k gil on some npc.

Please like to upvote this so that it will appear on the devs radar. Even if you wouldn't personally use this, it wouldn't hurt anyone to have this in the game either and would only take a couple mins of the devs time to actually develop while working on a patch/expansion.

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Rhaegar, get people to post that type of idea on this thread.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ation-rolls%21

It already has the request too about silence mode as well as a couple other effects. This thread I posted is already on the dev tracker and they responded to it for to get more feedback as the devs were interested into doing this.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

Just... toggle the BGM off if you want quiet? I get wanting ambience options for inside the house, but a "silent" orchestrion roll is just a pointless waste of resources. It takes less than 5 seconds to turn off.

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It would allow you to set the tone of your house for when people visit.

Maybe go even further and let us define how long we want a specific music on the playlist to play and how long we want silence before the start of the next track. That way we could actually make transitions between songs on the Orchestrion playlist. I already had the feeling that some tracks just stop too apruptly and I'd like them to play a little while longer.