LGBT Friendly Free Companies in Excalibur?

Still pretty new to the whole free company thing. Finally starting to get used to the controls of the game since I've only really played MMOs on a PC, lol.

I was just wondering if there were any FC that were LGBT friendly in Excalibur since I'd feel more comfortable talking to others and overall enjoying the game more in general.
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I don't know about Excalibur, but if you can't find what you're looking for there, I'd recommend Faerie. They're basically the biggest LGBT friendly server that I know of. One of the biggest FC's there is "LGBT". Just something to consider if Excalibur doesn't have any.

Maybe I'm just naive here, but wouldn't basically any FC be LGBT friendly by default unless it was filled with hatemongers?

It's not like sexual orientation changes your rotation. O.o

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Maybe I'm just naive here, but wouldn't basically any FC be LGBT friendly by default unless it was filled with hatemongers?

It's not like sexual orientation changes your rotation. O.o

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Those that actively advertise themselves as LGBT friendly (obviously) have a higher concentration of players who are LGBT. Many look for them to find a tight knit community they're comfortable bonding with for one reason or another. It's quite common and a few servers have several FCs dedicated to it, some quite massive.

@OP: I can't speak for any other server, but Gilgamesh has a huge LGBT population with a number of very large LGBT FCs.

It's funny how you don't see people posting "looking for an FC with straight people".

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Originally Posted by Emirly

It's funny how you don't see people posting "looking for an FC with straight people".

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You also don't ask where all the water is while you're in an ocean. There's no reason to specifically look for something that is an easily encountered majority.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Maybe I'm just naive here, but wouldn't basically any FC be LGBT friendly by default unless it was filled with hatemongers?

It's not like sexual orientation changes your rotation. O.o

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People seek out communities where they feel they will be understood the best. You have to remember that crude humor is more common than ever. I once joined an fc where they greeted newcomers by saying "what's up c*nt?" It's not that they were intentionally being mean, that's just how they expressed their collective humor. But not everyone appreciates that sort of humor and many might actually feel ostracized because of it. I won't sugar coat it and say that the LGBT community isn't the butt of many jokes these days. It's kinda reasonable to want to seek out a community where they know that they will be accepted and where people don't casually joke about sexual preferences.

I am gay and have never been in an fc that isnt lgbt friendly. It's the same deal.

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Originally Posted by Harukochi

I am gay and have never been in an fc that isnt lgbt friendly. It's the same deal.

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Your experience is not everyone's experience, nor should it matter to you what someone else is looking for in a FC.

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

Your experience is not everyone's experience, nor should it matter to you what someone else is looking for in a FC.

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I'm just saying I've never had a problem finding an fc that made a sexuality a defining trait.

All I'm trying to say is, even if you think it would be uncomfortable, I'm sure giving any fc a chance is better than limiting yourself to just a fc that caters to a type of person.

In the end we all want our upcoming weekly clears and be done with it.

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Originally Posted by Harukochi

I'm just saying I've never had a problem finding an fc that made a sexuality a defining trait.

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I may be misunderstanding what you're saying. My apologies.

I typod pretty bad and always edit my post, my fault for lack of concise response.

It wasn't about making sexuality a defining trait and I didn't mean to make my intentions seem as such. It's more of I don't have to feel skittish around people and worry about how they think of me... I was just hoping for a friendly group without worry of backlash.

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Originally Posted by ExpressoDepresso

It wasn't about making sexuality a defining trait and I didn't mean to make my intentions seem as such. It's more of I don't have to feel skittish around people and worry about how they think of me... I was just hoping for a friendly group without worry of backlash.

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Yeah, I get it. I've had a few pretty bad experiences on other games, so I won't even join an FC (or guild on any game) that doesn't at least have an anti-discrimination policy in the rules/code of conduct. Not that I can't handle a few assholes; I just don't want to deal with the drama.

I wish I could suggest a group for you on Excalibur, but I don't know a lot of people here either. :( I just recently left a group I have played with since meeting them in early 2005 on FFXI, so I'm looking for an FC too. I hope you can find a home soon!

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

Yeah, I get it. I've had a few pretty bad experiences on other games, so I won't even join an FC (or guild on any game) that doesn't at least have an anti-discrimination policy in the rules/code of conduct. Not that I can't handle a few assholes; I just don't want to deal with the drama.

I wish I could suggest a group for you on Excalibur, but I don't know a lot of people here either. :( I just recently left a group I have played with since meeting them in early 2005 on FFXI, so I'm looking for an FC too. I hope you can find a home soon!

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Aw, sorry to hear that! :C Best of luck on your FC searching!

It is the same with me, too. I've played other games and had some bad reactions and it is something I just want to avoid entirely. If there was a group I can identify with or just have people already understanding and kind, I was thinking that would be perfect way to meet people and stop worrying so much. ; -;

Greetings,

I represent the FC Final Limit Break. Though we are not a LGBT FC, we don't discriminate. If you would like to join our small fc, you're more than welcome to. Either as a permanent member or until you find a FC that better suits your needs.
Just look for Velt Starcaller in-game if interested. I will be doing my weekly instance runs today, so if search doesn't show me on, I may be in an instance.

Going back to Ultima Online in 1998, I have never been in a guild/corp/org/FC/whatever that gave a hoot about the RL sexual orientation of any of the members. I honestly cannot recall a discussion ever popping up in IRC/game chat/voice chat that ever even mentioned the subject. Now that is either a remarkable coincidence with odds bordering on astronomical, or gamers generally don't give a rat's patootie about sexual orientation generally. Given the number of games I've played, game conventions I've attended, etc...I'll go with the latter.

And given FF14 bordering on cutesy anime overload....methinks finding an FC that is LGBT friendly requires finding ANY FC WHATSOEVER and applying.

You could check if any of these are still active: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ed-August-2014

To me it seems FFXIV has quite a large LGBT playerbase also outside these dedicated FCs and LSs, and all the groups I've played with could be classified as friendly without being on any lists.

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Originally Posted by Venjenz

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The only gamers I've ever come across that even remotely give any semblance of a flying banana are the CoD / FPS obsessed.

But even its just them all acting hard and trying to get the most 'bantz'

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Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell

The only gamers I've ever come across that even remotely give any semblance of a flying banana are the CoD / FPS obsessed.

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Yeah, maybe the "game jock" crowd that plays every version of Madden like they are going pro E-sports or something, and only play CoD and GTA in their downtime...and also advertise that they are looking for "neo-nazi troglodytes only, no wimps need apply", But those aren't gamers. Not IMHO anyway.

In MMOs, where the population is much more "proper gamer" dorks like me? Not one time has my sexual orientation ever been questioned, inquired on, mentioned, etc. I am a male who plays female characters exclusively (MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls), and I honestly cannot recall, even back when that was "uncool" anyone ever giving me grief over it, mentioning it, etc.

It's just something I have never seen in MMO gaming. Almost every guild/FC has play nice, politeness, civility rules that they take more seriously than anything else, and even the uber raid guilds don't care about sexual orientation stuff or anything other than your time played per week, your iLvl, and your dedication to the perfect rotation. Bottom line is that real gamers just don't care, and tend to be inclusive by default, so long as your dedication to gaming itself is wired right. MMOs are the province of real gamers, like 4X strategy and hex wargaming. Niche crowds who welcome everyone.

well, having these LGBT-only communities makes me think that they DO wanna talk about their sexuality, because otherwise no one should really be concerned about it in the first place.

Personally, I have pretty much always had 1-2 gay people in almost every fc ive been, and they were super open about it, not beating around the bush, and no one gave them crap for it.
(if they did, they wouldve been shown the door out,pretty sure)

So I just dont really buy this whole "everyone is so homophobic, Ive had so many bad experiences" thing....especially not within this game's community. (i dont doubt that its a completely different thing in FPS games or games like LoL with their cancer community)

To each their own, but at the end of the day it kinda feels weird that such players feel the need to seclude themselves from the rest.....kind of like as if we arent good enough for them.

No offense though, its just my personal thoughts and I might be wrong.

Last I checked, TKN and Abyss were pretty decent-sized, inclusive FCs. I know there are more, those are just the 2 that I remember.

I don't understand what ppl mean when they ask for FCs that are LGBT friendly? Are there FCs out there known to NOT be friendly to specific groups of people? I'm a minority with a minority religion but it never would have occurred to me to seek out an FC that is specifically friendly to me. I just don't get it... I thought FCs were made up of all different types of people...

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Originally Posted by ExpressoDepresso

It's more of I don't have to feel skittish around people and worry about how they think of me... I was just hoping for a friendly group without worry of backlash.

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I haven't met any jerks on Excalibur (myself excluded) and have met only met very few playing this game. Jump on some linkshells and talk, eventually you will find your people.

Apart from middle eastern countries, LGBT-related topics are generally accepted throughout the world (even though some "activists" try to convince you otherwise).
The best way to normalize it even more is to simply mix with normal FCs and not retreat into safe spaces which exclude any kind of contrary opinion.

But I'm just a straight white male, so w/e.

There was this gay guy on my server, incredibly insecure about his sexual orientation and all, so I constantly told him to be a man about it and don't act like a wimp, even called him ****sucker and other things and eventually he started joking about it himself which was nice. He came up with some pretty creative homoerotic neologisms which made me lol

Honestly I'd just find a solid, good FC and then get a few LGBT friendly/focused LSs. The LS system is sometimes forgotten about altogether but can be a great resource.

Not everyone is homophobic and I know that. But, I have had bad run in on other games and I didn't mean to imply that the people of FF14- or anyone for that matter- are not good enough. I'm just being cautious and I didn't think there would be anything wrong with that. I'm sure the most are friendly, but I've been met with harassment before and I really don't want to go through it again on this game.

Generally, in XIV you're fairly safe with any FC (as LGB at least, had T friends have less great experiences but even then many of them have really good ones). If you want to jump in to a cross server LGBT community we'd be happy to have you with us in Gayorzea on discord which you can get to here: https://discord.gg/YA4PNrw ^^

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

well, having these LGBT-only communities...

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He asked for an LGBT friendly FC, not LGBT only. There are plenty of groups around on all types of games that advertise as LGBT friendly and are full of plenty of straight/cis/etc. members and just want people to know everyone is welcome.

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So I just dont really buy this whole "everyone is so homophobic, Ive had so many bad experiences" thing....especially not within this game's community.

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I said I had a few bad experiences on other games. It's been extremely rare considering all of the games I've played and groups I've joined, but those few times it happened were bad enough that I make sure to join groups where I know it won't be a problem. It's great that you and other people here have never run into any homophobic or transphobic or whatever people in your lives, but everyone shares different experiences. There are lots of bad things I'm sure I've never experienced, but I don't immediately think people are lying when they say they have. It's also worth noting that LGBT is more than just gay people.

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To each their own, but at the end of the day it kinda feels weird that such players feel the need to seclude themselves from the rest.....kind of like as if we arent good enough for them.

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Just to reiterate this: He asked for an LGBT friendly FC. And even then, groups that are just labeled "Eorzea's largest LGBTQIA+ FC/LS!" are generally inclusive of everyone.

I've heard quite a few anti-LGBT remarks in the game from people who got a bit too fired up and forgot they weren't playing CoD or something; it happens. Nothing deliberate, but I can completely understand wanting to join a group that frowns on that kind of thing instead of dismissing it as casual banter as some would. On the whole though, it's a very inclusive and friendly community IMO.

this may come as a shock to a fair few of you but there's a difference between being identity friendly and meeting the minimum levels of politeness as a person or a group.

me being able to joke about fray being genderfluid like me because their pronouns depend on the gender of the wol (I'll avoid spoilers here) makes my fc queer friendly. if the person I was talking to went "ummmmmm, ACTUALLY if you paid attention the reason for that is _______ so that's why fray is normal and not like you sjw snowflake genders" yeah that's not very friendly is it