Glamour System Projection/Skin-System

Hello,

it would be awesome if the skin-system would be revised. My inventory is mostly full and this just because glamour, i dont want throw stuff away.

I think a glamour system like in GuildWars 2 or Trove etc. would be great.

You've got an item, and then you unlock the skin from this item, then you can throw it away and you can use it everytime you want. If this needs to much space, then they can introduce an NPC or something like the blackboard to use the skins.

I agree with this, especially since Yoshida has mentioned their glamour UI is pretty low on their list of priorities, but it's obviously the #1 requested UI change.

MANY many many threads on this friend. We all want it, Yoshi has acknowledged we want it. Unfortunately it isn't high on their priority list, but we're trying to make it high in the list :'D

As said above me, asked again and again. I made a topic about it myself years ago.
I still can't understand why is it that low on their priority list. I mean:
- Diadem that no one cares about? Top priority, let's mess it up even more
- Glamour log everyone want and need? Bah, who cares?

Popped up a lot before, like the idea of collecting things into a log and the decluttering of my inventory - so of course I support it.

However, one thing I haven't added before is that even WoW has a glamour log now, I know we refrence GW2 a lot but I wasn't sure if people knew the direct competitor is now offering it as well. Oh and it's account wide lol. They had a section for your purchased looks before, because blizzard account wides pretty much everything, but now they have pretty much what people are asking for here.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I wasn't sure if people knew the direct competitor is now offering it as well. Oh and it's account wide lol. They had a section for your purchased looks before, because blizzard account wides pretty much everything, but now they have pretty much what people are asking for here.

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Minion, mount, achievement and glamour log, all account wide. I wish FFXIV would take example.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

As said above me, asked again and again. I made a topic about it myself years ago.
I still can't understand why is it that low on their priority list. I mean:
- Diadem that no one cares about? Top priority, let's mess it up even more
- Glamour log everyone want and need? Bah, who cares?

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Worst part is, I heard in an interview, no source on hand atm but I think it was the Dualshocker one. Where Yoshi mentioned he wouldn't want players running old content for the glamour items... What the heck? Relic says Hi!

Edit: Wasn't the Dualshocker interview... I can't remember what one it was but I swear I heard it somewhere, and it just baffled me, first Diadem weapons being weaker then Anima, then right after saying we should trust him to balance WHM... Idek anymore. Has the dev team got any priorities straight?

It's a good idea to add your feedback (and Like the first post) in the main request thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamour-log%21

That way they'll see how many different subscribers are desperate for them to make this glamour log happen. It would be such a big boost to inventory organisation.

This may sound very cynical, but i have a suspicion this is not high on their priority list, despite most competitors offering similar deals, because unlike games like WoW and Gw2 the only way we have to increase our bagslots given by the game is to rent it for real money.

The two aforementioned games have craftable bags and such therefore not creating an incentive to limit the players bag space. FFxiv on the other hand has no such feature. If a player run out of the already quite large bagspace, they have to either buy more or suck it up.

Mogstation purchased gear only takes away even more slots as it cant be put in armoire/be repurchased. (to my knowledge at least, i have not bought anything)
In stormblood they say they will increase bagslots. This will solve the issue temporarily. No matter what the game is, players will always find a way to run out.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Where Yoshi mentioned he wouldn't want players running old content for the glamour items...

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That's like the most stupid sh*t I ever heard of. Not running old content for glamour? For what then? Except glamour old content are useless because they have no clue about how to make durable content. Yoshida is dasppointing me more everyday.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

It's a good idea to add your feedback (and Like the first post) in the main request thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamour-log%21

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I have less pages but I have more like :D
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stion-is-over-!

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Unfortunately it isn't high on their priority list

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I still don't get how it can NOT be high on their priority list. A better glamour system has got to be one of if not THE number one requested feature. This one single thing would honestly ensure my subscription for... probably forever.

I prefer WildStar's system to GW2's though. Don't like the cash shop tokens. xD

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Originally Posted by Enur

This may sound very cynical, but i have a suspicion this is not high on their priority list, despite most competitors offering similar deals, because unlike games like WoW and Gw2 the only way we have to increase our bagslots given by the game is to rent it for real money.

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Right on the money, probably. Literally.

I officially ran out of retainer space a couple weeks ago. SE will get NO extra money from me, however. Not being able to store glamour pieces simply makes quitting more appealing, to be honest.

Inventory expansion in Stormblood will do nothing to fix this.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I still don't get how it can NOT be high on their priority list. A better glamour system has got to be one of if not THE number one requested feature. This one single thing would honestly ensure my subscription for... probably forever.

I prefer WildStar's system to GW2's though. Don't like the cash shop tokens. xD

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How bout just copying WoW's system then? You get a piece and can spend ingame currency to apply it. You can save your own premade "sets" for easy access when you get new gear that need glamour.

:3 There is a thread here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamour-log%21

But I want to show my support here too! I suggest everyone pour some love over there too.

And here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stion-is-over-!

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Originally Posted by Enur

How bout just copying WoW's system then? You get a piece and can spend ingame currency to apply it. You can save your own premade "sets" for easy access when you get new gear that need glamour.

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I like how I can save multiple sets at a time in WildStar and swap between them whenever I want without visiting an NPC (and as the outfit is separate from gear, you don't have to go updating it whenever you get an upgrade). While WoW's system is okay, it's got the hassle of having to visit an NPC and may really kind of stupid amounts of gold every time you want to change something.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

That's like the most stupid sh*t I ever heard of. Not running old content for glamour? For what then? Except glamour old content are useless because they have no clue about how to make durable content. Yoshida is dasppointing me more everyday.

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Yep... I found the quote too. And the article, other thread helped me find it ;)

USgamer: Has there been any thought about ways to make older gear usable to players in some fashion, outside of glamour? Things are always moving forward, leaving players with reams of gear in their banks for glamour sets alone.

Yoshida: Not really. If we were to do something like that in order to accommodate for older gear, people might go back to older content. Content that they had played over and over again, just so that they could obtain gear was the dropped in those areas. We want to avoid having people going back to older content.

Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...lood-expansion

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Yep... I found the quote too. And the article, other thread helped me find it ;)

USgamer: Has there been any thought about ways to make older gear usable to players in some fashion, outside of glamour? Things are always moving forward, leaving players with reams of gear in their banks for glamour sets alone.

Yoshida: Not really. If we were to do something like that in order to accommodate for older gear, people might go back to older content. Content that they had played over and over again, just so that they could obtain gear was the dropped in those areas. We want to avoid having people going back to older content.

Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...lood-expansion

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Ahaha, yeah there was another thread where we discus that because it felt like it wasn't understood, translated, or said properly because it's really a "Waaaaat?" moment.

My personal guess is that he meant to say at this moment with all the new content and drive to get everyone to play the /expansion/ content that he doesn't want to encourage people to play old content - yet. It's not that he never sees value in it but at this moment they want people to enjoy the expansion specifically, because of course that'd also mean more money to SE :P. This then means that a log would not be raised in priority at all until the expansion has had time to settle a little.

People may suggest the log is an expansion exclusive feature, and that may work, but I'm unsure how people would react to that. It might feel like if they had said "we're going to rebalance Paladin now, but only for the owners of the expansion any one else will be using the old Paladin which will be less desirable after our changes, please look forward to it!". So I imagine the glamour log would have to be a non-expansion specific content, which means it won't specifically promote the expansion and will promote doing old content more than new, because new content would already have a reason to do (story/progression, old content lost reasons but you just gave it new ones).

Anyway, that's my attempt to make sense of the non-sense xD.

The question isnt for glamour items, but making gear from older content relevent for progression. if they did that, people would just go back and farm easy shit they kbow how to do to get gear as good as current raid gear. That was the meaning behind that question and answer.

Note "is there any intention to make gear from older content relevent other than for glamour." not gear from older content isnt relevant for glamour.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Note "is there any intention to make gear from older content relevent other than for glamour." not gear from older content isnt relevant for glamour.

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Oh yeah definitely but I think a key in a few people's response, at least mine is that he says "We want to avoid having people going back to older content." and that we have relics.

Which to me meant he wasn't looking to promote old content as a whole, making it relate to glamour as well. (and that the key is he is talking in context of the expansion, because clearly they've promoted old content before)

Let's be realistic here. So long as people continue to pay for extra retainers, they will never make a glamour log. There's no incentive for them, as a company.

We should be able to talk to a forum mod and merge threads to one that has overwhelming support and several responses. Just to show the devs that we're absolutely really serious about this and they should try to dedicate some resources to make it happen.

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Originally Posted by kattzkitti

Let's be realistic here. So long as people continue to pay for extra retainers, they will never make a glamour log. There's no incentive for them, as a company.

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Inventory space is not the main issue at hand. Currently right now, you could buy the maximum amount of retainers and still hope it came with a glamour log and/or organizational functions