Make PvP great again, Boycott Season 4 of the Feast. Let our voices be heard!

It is clear we are still being ingored this point so time for higher measures. No more of settling, no more of "at least give us no more mp" button. How about NO BUTTONS? stop accepting "If they are not going to give us chat back at least add xxxx"

There is not enough messages you can premade in 120 buttons that can give to any real strategy. At best you are giving wins to premades that use communication outside the game. We need to be able ask for job changes, we need to be able to talk. This kind of censorship is ridiculous and insulting because PvE IS MORE TOXIC THEN PvP!!!!!

Your rally to boycott season 4 is going to go on mostly deaf ears, I know a handful of players who stop because of the chat banned but for every pvpers that quit, 5 more pvpers have risen to give feast a shot.

With Garo in place all you will do is secure some Garo farmers a victory by boycotting

And those Garo farmers will likely disappear once they have what they want. Or even sooner when the gear, minus dyeability, goes to the Gold Saucer.

Still, the player community has clearly been overlooked/ignored on the issues the chat restriction has caused, despite still not solving the one problem it was meant to. We said we want it gone, they asked for improvements. We offered suggestions for improvements, they gave us questionable additions and STILL no improvements. Communication has gone one-way long enough.

I had no intention of participating in Season 4, and declared so long before this topic, and I will hold to that. No point in going to a Feast when the food isn't what you want or asked for.

If I boycott will I get the hounds for free though later...?

I'd like to keep letting SE know we need chat back until they recover that

But if they won't, then at least

Ban the PvE chats:)

NOT a good way to start a thread....

When is season 4 happening?

The people who are the real problem - the cheaters - are only going to *benefit* from a boycott. I know you have a particular issue with the removal of chat but, in all honesty, that is irrelevant when there's people who can guarantee a 'win' (ie leader board placement) still playing. That issue must be resolved before the issue of chat is even looked at.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

The people who are the real problem - the cheaters - are only going to *benefit* from a boycott.

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I'm inclined to believe that the real problem is wearing business suits and is sitting at the executive table at SE.

Ranked has caused a lot of issues that weren't a big, if any issue beforehand. At this point I'm inclined to believe it was forced into the game as part of the E-Sports agenda to gain sponsorship monies, despite the team being obviously unable to handle it in any regard, and is now treated with the loving care of a turd your boss left on your table.

I doubt a boycott of ranked will help much there, but it'd be an interesting experiment. For all we know, the GMs might already be boycotting it.

Sorry not to discourage you, however boycotting will not work. Too many players enjoy the feast and to be honest I don't mind how it is now. Claim rewards based on effort. It's more challenging and in my opinion more fun. Read the flow, few hints. Why not?

You may not mind how it is now, but did you experience what it was like before? Because if you did, I strongly doubt you'd possibly hold any kind of favor toward what the Feast has become.

As for those who say it won't help or it won't work, consider this: You can do nothing, and guarantee nothing changes and you remain ignored, or you can take that chance to make yourselves heard. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Considering SE track records of making reasonable pvp decision, I highly doubt they will be move by a boycott, plus SE already said concerning question about the chat banned that they are working on something but it will not take into effect until 4.0. So you are just punishing yourself from being able to take part in season 4.

Cant wait to see leaderboard season 4. I wish to apologize to all the ppl ive been rude too. Spamming nice job isnt fun anymore :(.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

So you are just punishing yourself from being able to take part in season 4.

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That's just it, I'm really not. The rewards don't motivate me at all, I REALLY don't like the chat restriction or the Wolf's Heart box, and I especially don't like the way the Feast is handled with a double standard, nor the lack of any real two-way communication with SE regarding the near-unanimous opinions of the PvP community or the insistence on "adjusting" a feature that has been so poorly received and unwanted besides.

They can make all the adjustments they want, but if people don't want it, and never wanted it, it'll be quite the hard sell, and only more so as they continue to disregard player input. If it takes a sudden drop off in participation to wake them up, then let it happen.

To be fair: If this season is your chance to get the mount, or whatever possible reward you desire, go for it. Don't let anyone stop you. But also ask yourself what's more important; that one single reward you want, or finally being heard and having an overall better Feast experience? That's not my call to make for anyone other than myself. And I personally don't care to compete under the conditions they've set, and certainly not for those rewards. When they wake up and take us seriously on the chat restriction, the reporting of OBVIOUS cheaters and wintraders, and proper balancing, I'll be happy to compete again. Til then, if I absolutely want to play Feast matches, I can always arrange custom matches with friends.

At least I can chat and communicate with my team there.

who needs mana when u got astro:confused:

If you boycott season 4 then your only choice is Frontlines? It takes an insane amount of time to get a Frontlines game in the morning, I just hope the new season will bring morning PVP.

I'm not participating due to the chat restrictions. If there's no communication, there's no team. Every win I've had since this absolutely stupid and lazy decision has felt like a random free for all or because the other team had bad healers or if they had any healers at all. It's like being in the army where communication with your colleagues is key to survival but communications are down.....you can't do you bloody job.

I'd rather lose in frontlines than win in feast.

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I'm not participating due to the chat restrictions. If there's no communication, there's no team. Every win I've had since this absolutely stupid and lazy decision has felt like a random free for all or because the other team had bad healers or if they had any healers at all. It's like being in the army where communication with your colleagues is key to survival but communications are down.....you can't do you bloody job.

I'd rather lose in frontlines than win in feast.

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You can't PVP and type anyway. The best way of communication is voice comms, your team also should know what role they should be doing so there should be no need to tell your team what they should be doing.

Pinging the map on the other hand would be more useful then typing in chat.

If Diadem and Yoshi's response to the outcry has told me anything, it's that SE doesn't give a damn about the quality of content, as long as people populate it.

In Yoshi's own words: Ya'll need to calm down.
Ignore how horrible PvP is and pretend you're having fun.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

You can't PVP and type anyway. The best way of communication is voice comms, your team also should know what role they should be doing so there should be no need to tell your team what they should be doing.

Pinging the map on the other hand would be more useful then typing in chat.

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Yes you can. You can plan ahead before the game even starts by looking at who's on the other team which was what I and many other people did with me when i was new. I used to play paladin and it was a player called 'Joe Never' who taught me(you know, a valuable thing you can't do now?) how to play in feast by harassing healers and black mages, i specifically remember him tell me 'NEVER LET BLM FREE CAST STUN THEM' (he type in all caps all the time for some reason) and we WON, lol i even remember the black mage, it was a poor player called Kyros Nyx. not because of some random free for all BS, we won because we had the ability to plan ahead.

Also people would have specific macros which aren't available now and on top of that people WOULD type in quick short sentences in a feast match. I have one it when wanting to address a specific person as have people done it to me

'Lol char wtf? why are you picking up defense buff???'
*sees i have 8 stacks*
'Oh nvm sorry'

I learnt a lot from veteran players and wish to pass it on to newer players but i can't. So sick and tired of losing because you have that 10 stack paladin in sword diving into the enemy team getting LB'd and dying. This happens SOOOO much. But nope. Can't tell them anything like why they shouldn't be doing that or at least change stance and buff up. >_>

We get custom matches in dutyfinder. Custom matches do not have chat restrictions in feast.
You can still play premade/groupqueue with voice chat, I think it is a better experience anyway.

Why would I boycott it when it's my only chance to get the mount?

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

To be fair: If this season is your chance to get the mount, or whatever possible reward you desire, go for it. Don't let anyone stop you. But also ask yourself what's more important; that one single reward you want, or finally being heard and having an overall better Feast experience? That's not my call to make for anyone other than myself. And I personally don't care to compete under the conditions they've set, and certainly not for those rewards. When they wake up and take us seriously on the chat restriction, the reporting of OBVIOUS cheaters and wintraders, and proper balancing, I'll be happy to compete again. Til then, if I absolutely want to play Feast matches, I can always arrange custom matches with friends.

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Covered that already.

wait so premades can still chat? I thought that was the whole deal about this lol.

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Originally Posted by Gumbercules

wait so premades can still chat? I thought that was the whole deal about this lol.

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No, what he means is if you set up a Custom Match with friends/players you know, you can still use chat normally. I would assume this is because you would likely be with people you know, thus less prone to say anything terrible. Solo and Light Party queues for 8v8 and ranked Feast still don't allow you to chat by any other means than the limited Quick Chat system.