Server-Wide Chat Channel

I saw this in the XI forums and thought it would be good to see what XIV players think. Some of you will probably say "this isn't WoW, we don't need it" but you can't deny that it's a good feature. Getting people for a leve group more easily, getting to know others (not just LS people or people shouting in one area), getting an SP pt together more easily (at least until they fix the search), quests and selling/repairing stuff. Sure, you can check the wards for selling/repairing but sometimes they just don't have the item you're looking for.

For the people who don't like it there could always be a filter option and to reduce spam they could have a shouts/minute limit or some sort of (light) penalty. For example if RMT start shouting and spam too much they could be penalized for it and be unable to shout for a certain period of time.

Imo it would get people to know the server more because from what I've seen (on Bodhum at least) it's usually very quiet in towns and it kinda makes it feel empty.

I think that something like that wouldn't be a bad idea but rather then have it filtered from your chat window I would imagine it would need a seperate window all together that could be closed or opened whenever you wanted.

Could have it as an extra tab in the chat window, just like battle.

(Is a dumbass and can not read properly)

I think this would be a pretty cool feature, it could just be in a seperate chat log that you have to pull up from the menu, so that way its not in the way or flooding your chat log with alot of talking.

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Originally Posted by MagicofGaia

If it was an optional window and/or filterable I wouldn't be completely opposed to the idea. But I personally do not think I would ever use it.

We don't run cross-server instances, you can't trade with someone on another server, nor party, etc.. I don't think it would be something they would consider honestly.

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It would be on YOUR server but across all areas, not just in the one area.

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Originally Posted by Raxxon

It would be on YOUR server but across all areas, not just in the one area.

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Yea, my mind didn't pick up on what it needed to to put pieces together. Wow.. I retract that. Sorry

I am in favor of a public chat channel that can be toggled on or off.

I am in favor of multiple public chat channels that people can create that anyone can join without requiring an item.

I am in favor of player-created public chat channels costing a large amount of gil to create.

It could be like battle where its [Chat][Battle][Server] in the log or something.

As long as it has it's own tab and/or window or can be turned on/off I wouldn't mind it being in the game... they had this in Aion and it was mostly used for stupid stuff, people insulting one another and being childish, or RMT spamming so I never used it and I'm not a huge fan of it.

Since they can't even put a toggle feature on the simplest of features so far in XIV, I doubt it will be togglable(spelling?)

I also feel like chat channels promote a gateway of which the most immature people somehow become, even more immature, and they mutate into douchebags.

When comes down to it, XI did just fine without a global chat feature and I think XIV will do equally as fine.

Normal shout is also used for stupid things, as is say. Just like any other type of chat you would be able to filter it out if you wanted to and it could have its own tab to avoid chat log spam.

Draven, considering you can already filter certain things in your chat log, I don't see the ability to turn off a chat channel to be a problem.

Right now, the player base is relatively small. There isn't a huge amount of communication going on. Something like this could really help the community especially as it grows.

You could be right about that toggle Celyia, but I still have my doubts. SEs track record of things done right in MMOs continues to decline in my eyes. I'm not trying to sound pessimistic, it's just how I feel :\

And when it comes to my experience with global chats, again, I just feel like it creates a window for people to act like fools. Yeah, sometimes they do /shout or /say stupid things but that's pretty rare so far and a limited audience. Some people really get their jelly beans off though by talking nonsense when they think a lot of people are listening to them. I mean cmon...just look at the forums!

You will always have players that will "abuse" this kind of future. As long as you can turn it on/off or as long as it has its own tab I do not mind. I played WoW for years, but I rarely used the general chat and had it turned off or on a tab I never looked at.

As long as I can turn it off, I'm cool.

I don't need more stuff clogging my chat window as it is...

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Originally Posted by Draven

You could be right about that toggle Celyia, but I still have my doubts. SEs track record of things done right in MMOs continues to decline in my eyes. I'm not trying to sound pessimistic, it's just how I feel :\

And when it comes to my experience with global chats, again, I just feel like it creates a window for people to act like fools. Yeah, sometimes they do /shout or /say stupid things but that's pretty rare so far and a limited audience. Some people really get their jelly beans off though by talking nonsense when they think a lot of people are listening to them. I mean cmon...just look at the forums!

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Its true SE has made alot of mistakes but if they treat public chats like they did in FFXI, ive heard of stories of ppl getting temp bans and what not just for shouting curse words in towns and getting reported.
So to be honest I dont worry about ppl acting like fools too much, but its always possible it could become a place where too many ppl regularly type things like "tele plz" and " selling/buying these items" etc.

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Originally Posted by Sirrush

Its true SE has made alot of mistakes but if they treat public chats like they did in FFXI, ive heard of stories of ppl getting temp bans and what not just for shouting curse words in towns and getting reported.
So to be honest I dont worry about ppl acting like fools too much, but its always possible it could become a place where too many ppl regularly type things like "tele plz" and " selling/buying these items" etc.

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I guess that's my point. Even if SE gets it right, the players are still going to "break" it so to speak by using it without shame.

While I liked world chat in WoW the one thing that annoyed me to no end was the people who used it to be complete idiots. 99% of the time, no, 100% of the time there was some stupid argument going on int world chat and it really just kind of ruined the atmosphere of the game.

I admit that it was useful sometimes...when you could read through all the stupidity.

I completely understand the reservation, but keep in mind that WoW has a different playerbase from FFXIV. We tend to have older, more mature players here. The insanity that happens on WoW (and on that game, I do keep general and other chats turned off) wouldn't likely be as prevalent here. Plus, with ignore, it's easy to just tune out repeat offenders.

The thing is, people who wish to be obnoxious -will- find a way to be obnoxious. Whether they spam /poke a bajillion times or spam in shout or say, they know how to get their attention.

I still think that a chat channel could do too much good for those who wish to use it, especially considering that one of the biggest complaints I've heard from people who have left this game have been "it's just too quiet".

Now if we were all forced to listen to this chat channel all the time, that'd be a different story. I wouldn't want it, either. But considering you can turn off /shout, /say, and others, I really don't think SE would implement such a feature that would work differently.

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Originally Posted by Celyia

I completely understand the reservation, but keep in mind that WoW has a different playerbase from FFXIV. We tend to have older, more mature players here. The insanity that happens on WoW (and on that game, I do keep general and other chats turned off) wouldn't likely be as prevalent here.

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lol, nah I'm sorry I can't agree with you on this one. The player count is smaller but the ratio is the same from what I can tell. I think there are just as many (or potentially just as many) here in XIV as there are in WoW.

The greater the audience, the greater number of douchebags and that's all that WoW has over other MMOs in most cases is simply a greater audience. So I think for many people, it's easy to perceive the games playerbase as being immature, but really I just think it's the numbers.

What I'm saying is, it's not a WoW thing, it's simply today's generation of gamers and they infect ALL games almost equally. If what you're saying is true and we have more mature players ect. it's only because the game isn't tolerable for most of the gamers we're talking about and so they've left early to return to other online games.

Again, look at the forums, it's the same behavior you see on WoWs forums, on Aions forums....it's all the same man.

And should XIV evolve into a magical amazing experience and lots of people join the game in the future, you'll see what I mean. Especially if there's a global chat.

So you cut out an option (and mind you, this is dependent on the idea that a chat channel could be toggled off) because of what people -might- do?

It doesn't make sense to me.

Right now, communication in this game is hurting. Badly. People don't talk. Communication needs to be encouraged. Community needs to be encouraged. This is a fast, simple way to do it.

You don't like global chat? Fine. Toggle it off. It costs you nothing. So why deny this feature to others?

/global channel would be a welcome addition to FFXIV.

It would be used for many reasons such as trading, RMT spam, LS recruitment/ flaming, leve-link parties, SP grind parties, noobie questions, ranting, and reducing boredom while grinding DoH skills.

FF games tend to attract a more mature or good-natured crowd than other franchises, but boundaries would absolutely need to exist for the channel to have a positive impact. Most importantly:

-two line (whatever amount of text it takes to fill two lines of the default chat window) limit for each entry

-at least 20 second delay before becoming eligible to send another /global entry

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I think this would be a genius idea. I have played other MMOs where it's been used for foolish and useless chat or rants/trolling so I usually filter it off. But I do also believe that FFXI and FFXIV have a more mature player base, and that it would liven up the server. I mean... it's rather depressing walking into Ul'dah, seeing hundred of players, and no one responding to anything.. I can try to look for a group for hours and nothing and no one shouting anything. Not to talk, not to find a group... nothing... I think this would encourage people a lot and also it'd have the players from all over, so there'd have to be something going on.

/shameless bump

I think SE should add Game Suggestions to Feedback instead of just Site, all the suggestions in the General Discussion get drowned out by normal threads.

If people are finding it quiet then they should perhaps consider joining more linkshells. Linkshells are, afterall, player created private chatrooms. They don't serve any other purpose at this time.

If they were to introduce a global channel, I would like to see the time limit between /global shouts to be 2-3 minutes so that it's not viable for conversation and it is used solely for asking questions (only need to be asked once and can be replied to with a /tell) and forming groups (if the channel isn't spammed then it should be easy to see).

I wouldnt be completly opposed to the idea, but if I was a developer of a mmo, I would not have one, whenever this sort of thing is implemented it will always be a spam fest, even with the ability of turning it off it becomes obsolete because the only things people will use it for is spam, and unless you're in the spam crowd you wont get anything useful out of it

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Originally Posted by Epo

...I do also believe that FFXI and FFXIV have a more mature player base...

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I would believe that the reason the audience in FFXI and FFXIV seem on general to be more "mature" is because of its "adult swim"(in the literal sense, not the animation block) design. There are "limits" in place that would deter a seemingly more "immature" crowd like no world PvP, no rabid jumping or other crazy physics defying stuff, the gameplay is very much team-based, which means less room for douchery, being an entry in a series that is usually shrugged off by the western gamer public, and at least for FFXIV, a higher barrier to entry due to high PC requirements.

Take away these things, and I'm pretty sure that you'll have plenty of "WoW-heads" heading to the game and bringing it down to every other game's level.

These are just my thoughts on the perceived maturity of these games' communities, and is hardly indicative of anything with factual basis. Personally I don't think it has anything to do with more maturity as much as it has to do with the game attracts a certain demographic with certain personality characteristics that may not be in line with the audience of other MMOs.