Extended Dye coloring

I notice this is one of the few games where you cannot actualy dye seperate area's of your armor, let alone color ALL armors.

I recommend Square enix "drop" this cap and allow ALL armors to be colored (not just the older ones).

The second and most important thing I'd add is to allow people to change the color of your armor in 3 stages. 1 for the cloth, 1 for the armor & 1 dye for the optional items on that armor like shoulderpads, trinkets of emblems. Most games do it so why not FFXIV (those other games are older then FFXIV). In worst case scenario they could still do it in 2 phases, one for the cloth and one for the armor.

I don't like being able to color my armor white and yet not being able to color that ugly brown cloth on the inside of my armor ruining the entire view of my build :/

They already addressed this exact complaint. They said "not until PS5 comes out. PS4 too weak for the memory requirements" That said, they did confirm they will look into allowing you to dye metal accents, but don't expect that until 5.0

Sounds to me like Square enix thinks lowly of Pc users considering they keep the game in a crippled state to appease PS4 users...
Sounds to me that it would be more fair that they'd allow PC users to use this advantage now because its not our fault PS4 is lacking.

It does make me scratch my head tho when it comes to dyeing the armors cus isn't DC Universe on PS3 and the whole gimmick was the vast customization of armors and accessories? I know they are obviously 2 different games but when its just a matter of letting us change the color, seems so minor. Though I am also not a developer so got no real info.

It's not a priority.

http://i.imgur.com/eCf3civ.png

As for your Horn Scale Mail, I'd recommend switching to the Iron Scale Mail equivalent set to suit your particular needs. The brown parts of Horn Scale Mail look perfectly lovely in other colors, so there is no need to blame that for your choice of dye job. And if that's all it takes to "ruin the entire view" of your build, I'm legitimately sorry to hear that.


As far as the "PS5" bit, I'm almost completely certain that was either due to a misunderstanding of the question (as it was phrased extremely poorly), or was a joke coming off the heels of someone asking a similarly stupid question requesting waist-length hair with actual physics to it.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Sounds to me like Square enix thinks lowly of Pc users considering they keep the game in a crippled state to appease PS4 users...
Sounds to me that it would be more fair that they'd allow PC users to use this advantage now because its not our fault PS4 is lacking.

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Just like they make allowances for other markets (ie Japan, Korea etc.) they should implement the change and if it is not available on PS4 then they should take that up with them not stop us from being able to utilize our PCs

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Originally Posted by GMERC

It's not a priority.

As far as the "PS5" bit, I'm almost completely certain that was either due to a misunderstanding of the question (as it was phrased extremely poorly), or was a joke coming off the heels of someone asking a similarly stupid question requesting waist-length hair with actual physics to it.

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I thought that too, but what he said was "If you're referring to something like dyeing the outershirt purple and inner shirt blue, that's PS5"

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I notice this is one of the few games where you cannot actualy dye seperate area's of your armor, let alone color ALL armors.

I recommend Square enix "drop" this cap and allow ALL armors to be colored (not just the older ones).

The second and most important thing I'd add is to allow people to change the color of your armor in 3 stages. 1 for the cloth, 1 for the armor & 1 dye for the optional items on that armor like shoulderpads, trinkets of emblems. Most games do it so why not FFXIV (those other games are older then FFXIV). In worst case scenario they could still do it in 2 phases, one for the cloth and one for the armor.

I don't like being able to color my armor white and yet not being able to color that ugly brown cloth on the inside of my armor ruining the entire view of my build :/

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It's likely that such a change is a major project. Just adding dye to an armor set with the current takes a fair amount of work and its done by the same people that make new sets. Adding dye to every set means less sets in game. Add to that that as a reward system they like adding craftable versions of the armor to provide value to craftable gear as in a lot of cases, glamour is its main value and crafting takes a lot of work.

As for dye on multiple parts they did mention PS4/5 and said that with the current engine there are memory issues with that. Even if there wasn't it still is likely very much a substancial amount of work coming out of some other aspect of the game and as most JP players play on PS4 and the JP player base is on par with NA that's a major project with very little value to a substancial part of the player base. More over your gear has to appear on their versions of the game meaning that the Memory issue would likely still be a problem.

I don't think its a mayor project in the sense that when you use dye on armor or clothing.. only half of it becomes colored. Wich means that they obviously made groups to differentiate from, and that should normaly make it easy for them to give a seperate value to the second unused group.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Just adding dye to an armor set with the current takes a fair amount of work

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Sometimes I really boggle at what these devs struggle with that other MMOs do with ease. xD

I'd like more shaded effects. Like the ombre hair.

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Originally Posted by Renius

Just like they make allowances for other markets (ie Japan, Korea etc.) they should implement the change and if it is not available on PS4 then they should take that up with them not stop us from being able to utilize our PCs

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Wrong, same game, same sub, cross platform.

You knew what you were getting into.

I can explain one of the issues. Item data, they tell us, is already substantially larger than other games. Each item has a lot of attributes like meld(x5), condition, spiritbond, dye color, glamor projected. Adding more things like dye color #2, dye color #3 or glamor #2 for a different job to every item will bloat item data further. The memory issue is a server-side concern, where they must frequently back up all character data to prevent any rollbacks in case of crash/disconnect. If the amount of data that needs to be frequently backed up becomes too large, the strain on the servers could cause instability, errors, server crash. There are often technical reasons like these which interfere with potential features which otherwise may sound convenient and desirable to the users.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

server stuff

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i think i remember SE/yoshi mentioning some time ago that the servers save and backup all the data ever 15-30 seconds. this is why the datacentre or world can suddenly crash and we rarely get rollbacks of any kind. if we ever get more glam features i think it'll be when they do a major hardware upgrade on all of the servers on all datacentres.

on topic. i think we can use something like Main Dye/Colorant + Sub Dye/Colorant or every dyeable set to make it simple to implement and smaller additional size for the character data also. but if they ever add anytypeof/more dye customization that would mean they have to rework the palette of every existing armor that's currently ingame so that's a lot of work to be done too.

I would love to have more dye channels for our gear.

At least two...

Yeah, I do hate that dyeing my gear equates to basically dumping a bucket of paint on it. I'd love more colors per piece.

Most MMO's allready use Dual Dye systems like Guildwars 2 for example who even goes as far as 3 channel dye's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpUvubLxPxo

I always figured Square enix to be NR 1 on MMO/RPG platforms so maybe its time to reclaim the crown?

One solution would be to create multiple versions of the same piece where the undyable part is a different color. You pick the version with the color you want and then dye the dyable part whatever you want. Of course, they'll have to create a ton of new pieces, but that will eliminate character data bloat, I believe. I too, hate all the brown in the starter gear. If I could have a version where the brown part would be black or blue, then I could dye the rest whatever I want and have it closer to how I like it.

That is basicly why im annoyed Antonio.. if they had made that brown pure black I wouldn't have bothered as other colors would come out looking nicer.
But unfortunately that is not how it went... and it needs to be fixed soon to keep up to date with competing MMO's who all seem to have this option.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Most MMO's allready use Dual Dye systems like Guildwars 2 for example who even goes as far as 3 channel dye's.

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Up to 4 channels for dying in some cases.

Just happened to see someone with the Yuna summoner sleeves a bit ago...

Completely dissapointed with how they dye.
The main color is the thread at the top, the rest of the sleeve is dyed a much lighter tone of the dye used.

They're pretty much only useable as a light colored item.


If we could dye the thread and sleeves seperatly there wouldn't have been an issue.

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

Just happened to see someone with the Yuna summoner sleeves a bit ago...

Completely dissapointed with how they dye.
The main color is the thread at the top, the rest of the sleeve is dyed a much lighter tone of the dye used.

They're pretty much only useable as a light colored item.


If we could dye the thread and sleeves seperatly there wouldn't have been an issue.

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That is exactly my point, if they gave each armor at least 2 levels of dye (one for metal/leather armor and one for the cloth underneath). Having 3 color levels like Guildwars 2 does would be even more lovely.. but If they make it 2 instead of 1... that would be an awsome upgrade by itself!

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Originally Posted by Daranion

They already addressed this exact complaint. They said "not until PS5 comes out. PS4 too weak for the memory requirements" That said, they did confirm they will look into allowing you to dye metal accents, but don't expect that until 5.0

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That excuse again ?!

I just want to be able to exclude certain parts when dyeing something. The original bunny bustier bow stays red when dyed but the chief bunny bustier bow dyes with the rest of the top.

SE and other will always use it a a excuse why something can't be done and was even joked about before the PS3 support being ended as announced. It was oh because of PS3 limitations and now that PS3 and going away it will just be oh PS4 limitations.

Assuming that the limitation is PS4, what exactly is the limiting factor for the dye? Is everything not a rendered model with colors slapped on? I can't see how dying 2 parts of an outfit differently would be anymore strenuous as it already is on that system. Is it not essentially the same?

Perhaps the issue is that they don't have such a system in place for that to be possible yet. Or, more likely in my mind, is that the issue would be having to go back in all old models and remesh all of them to allow a multi-colored system. (Since if this were to be implemented it would be assumed that all dyeable items would need to have this change and currently models that are dyeable are programmed at the moment to be colored on specific parts of it.)

I hope I wrote that clearly

I'm more than ready to abandon all previous sets and just move forward with multi-channel dying on all new gear but that memory limitation thing is just depressing.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Sounds to me like Square enix thinks lowly of Pc users considering they keep the game in a crippled state to appease PS4 users...
Sounds to me that it would be more fair that they'd allow PC users to use this advantage now because its not our fault PS4 is lacking.

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Lol, let the PS4 limitations begin.

Maybe its about time they started making Playstations that are not overrated.