4.0 with the drop of ps3 changes that could be added?

With the drop of ps3 support a lot of problems with hardware limitation gets lifted, so my question is do you think we could see these following changes

-giving us the 1.0 character models, it's no secret that the 1.0 character models are miles better looking than what we have now, but it also fixes the booty thing you hear so much about in the forums

- combined zones with flying, now this one seems a bit of a stretch but how cool would it be if all the black shroud was one zone, all of thanalan one and all of la noscea one with flying in these new giant zones. Also combining cities to 1 zone instead of 2, such as limsa lower and upper just being one limsa zone

-overhauled emotes, the best example i can think of is between Au Ra and Miqo'te. Take a look at how full of life Au Ra emotes are and then look at how stiff and lifeless Miqo'te emotes are. What I am saying here is giveing all races emotes that look real instead of the robotic looking motions some races have now

-more character creation options or character creation overhaul, This one is another big one people want either more options or just an overhaul with sliders to make our characters actually look different instead of the same 1 or 2 looking races you see everywhere.

I know theres a lot here, but I think all of these would add to the game. if you agree please like the post to get attention if you don't agree then tear me apart with comments XD

1.0 won't exist for a very long time, if ever. There are several reasons as to why, like maybe one of them explicitly because of the ps3. You want higher res models? Take to SE about giving the XIV team some proper equipment. The Butts issues is also not a ps3 issue. It was an issue where very detailed 3d modeling is a god damned nightmare for a game where hundreds of models can be on screen performing individual movements.

Emote overhaul is not an issue, entirely possible, those animations were just from the old models and whether were placeholders or actual decisions is undetermined. That said, it is extremely low priority, as is most things already in the game, as it would take sizeable development time to break down animations and spruce them up.

Sliders goes right back to character model issues. They dont have the hardware to manage fully unique 3d models efficiently and to do so would require greater upgrades to what they have and possibly a new engine. This is sorta why really exaggerated facial animations you see in cutscenes look like something from gary's mod.

These weren't even really ps3 limitations, these have been "Our equipment sucks, and the average playerbase aren't all playing on titans to compensate." Until they do get better equipment and improve the engine enough, none of these arepossible without putting a burden on anyone playing the game.

The main issue right now is the engine itself being flawed, not a few people still being on the ps3.

What is the butt issue? Mine seems pretty juicy, depending on pants.

We need the butt slider. That is it.

At launch? Nothing. Down the line probably QoL changes. I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

1.0 won't exist for a very long time, if ever. There are several reasons as to why, like maybe one of them explicitly because of the ps3. You want higher res models? Take to SE about giving the XIV team some proper equipment. The Butts issues is also not a ps3 issue. It was an issue where very detailed 3d modeling is a god damned nightmare for a game where hundreds of models can be on screen performing individual movements.

Emote overhaul is not an issue, entirely possible, those animations were just from the old models and whether were placeholders or actual decisions is undetermined. That said, it is extremely low priority, as is most things already in the game, as it would take sizeable development time to break down animations and spruce them up.

Sliders goes right back to character model issues. They dont have the hardware to manage fully unique 3d models efficiently and to do so would require greater upgrades to what they have and possibly a new engine. This is sorta why really exaggerated facial animations you see in cutscenes look like something from gary's mod.

These weren't even really ps3 limitations, these have been "Our equipment sucks, and the average playerbase aren't all playing on titans to compensate." Until they do get better equipment and improve the engine enough, none of these arepossible without putting a burden on anyone playing the game.

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SE's servers don't render character models, so them getting better equipment wouldn't solve this lol. It is an engline limitation, and a design choice, and maybe less of an engine limitation.

I'm hoping they'll update the servers and infrastructure with 5.0. I cannot imagine it'll happen with 4.0, and even 5.0 may be optimistic.

Your thinly-veiled butt slider thread doesn't fool me.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

I'm hoping they'll update the servers and infrastructure with 5.0. I cannot imagine it'll happen with 4.0, and even 5.0 may be optimistic.

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The servers don't really need an update though. The game is coded for a certain number of players, and more than that breaks the coding. Thats why Aether has stability issues, not server hardware. They could throw the most expensive hardware that exists at our servers and it wouldnt do anything if they didnt update the code to allow for it.

On the other hand, it would be nice to have some updates to the way the games systems interact, like the ability to add housing wards to the servers that need them without having to add them to the entire datacenter.

Did someone say butt sliders!!!!!!!!?

I want to fly everywhere (2.x zones and cities) and have mounts in cites. Will I get that? Probably not, but I can dream can't I?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

SE's servers don't render character models, so them getting better equipment wouldn't solve this lol. It is an engline limitation, and a design choice, and maybe less of an engine limitation.

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Never said it was a server issue. The engine is the biggest problem, limitation or not, it's not a good engine. Hardware or software, the ARR team was only given so much and they've just about reached what they can do until they can improve what they have.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

You want higher res models? Take to SE about giving the XIV team some proper equipment. The Butts issues is also not a ps3 issue. It was an issue where very detailed 3d modeling is a god damned nightmare for a game where hundreds of models can be on screen performing individual movements.

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There are several ways character models were changed to improve performance, but I believe Eorzea turning into IHOP was mainly for gear design reasons and not because SE was afraid of big asses dropping framerates: It's easier to design gear when everyone is more or less the same proportions.

I never understood this "gear won't work on unique models!" excuse

This isn't a problem for any other MMO where they actually get meaningful proportion options, so why is it that SE is the only company who can't handle it?

"Gear" can simply be automatically deformed and stretched over the character models' dimensions, with the only adjustment needed being a couple textures here and there clipped. It sounds to me like the players making up problems that don't exist to excuse the devs' laziness.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

There are several ways character models were changed to improve performance, but I believe Eorzea turning into IHOP was mainly for gear design reasons and not because SE was afraid of big asses dropping framerates: It's easier to design gear when everyone is more or less the same proportions.

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It was mainly for gear design, homogenizing models made it much more effective to create more detailed gear with layers. But that in a way was because the active adjustments the models had to make when characters performed exaggerated movements or awkward poses so that clipping wasn't horrendous and proportions didn't explode when doing something simple as sitting. Other games, even MMOs, can perform these measures without much or any issue, but the engine 1.0 was so inefficient that even the simplest things created huge issues.

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Originally Posted by LioJen

I never understood this "gear won't work on unique models!" excuse

This isn't a problem for any other MMO where they actually get meaningful proportion options, so why is it that SE is the only company who can't handle it?

"Gear" can simply be automatically deformed and stretched over the character models' dimensions, with the only adjustment needed being a couple textures here and there clipped. It sounds to me like the players making up problems that don't exist to excuse the devs' laziness.

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It's more players prefer to call the devs trash when things aren't done the way they like because none of us actually knows what goes on on their end. They need to pin their displeasure on something tangible enough so either the devs are just shit or a console hindering them.

More than anything, I'd like more tail options on my kitty. I really want a fluffy tabby cat style stripey tail.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

Never said it was a server issue. The engine is the biggest problem, limitation or not, it's not a good engine. Hardware or software, the ARR team was only given so much and they've just about reached what they can do until they can improve what they have.

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What is it with SE, then? They develop a whole new in-house engine expressly for XIV ARR and XV, which can support greater object density but otherwise has only a faintly higher frame-rate than the one they called cripplingly inefficient, and has considerably worse character and gear detail than said previous engine?
(Note, for instance, that while that nefarious example of the massively resourced potted plant, with over 124 lines of shader code or whatnot, didn't actually bog 1.x (from what I can remember testing on the exact same one after Yoshida's presentation), while a more poorly detailed and now "butt-less" character running across your screen in Luminous will. So what was the real issue before that "forced" them to reduce character polygons and texture resolution?)

If the engine they spent at least two years making is still that poor, do they even stand a chance of making a good one, ever?

They need to work harder at bringing in all the remaining anime hentai Second Life Sims Mario Go Solitaire Vegas Slots crowd demographic.

Butt sliders, fuzzy tails, and more excessively glittery glowy mounts and weapons might solve all of the above. Get rid of those silly dungeon raid ideas.

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If the engine they spent at least two years making is still that poor, do they even stand a chance of making a good one, ever?

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The Luminous was for XV primarily afair. Either the ARR team took the engine and jerry-rigged it for their purposes, or SE gave them use to a very scaled down version. Or of it was all something that had to be done to use the assets from Crystal.

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They need to work harder at bringing in all the remaining anime hentai Second Life Sims Mario Go Solitaire Vegas Slots crowd demographic.

Butt sliders, fuzzy tails, and more excessively glittery glowy mounts and weapons might solve all of the above. Get rid of those silly dungeon raid ideas.

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Or instead of being salty we can acknowledge that doing for the casual side of things isn't the same as short-changing the hardcore side. No one is suggesting that dungeons and raids be lost. It's ok if casuals are catered to, it doesn't effect you. Raids and ex primals and savages will keep coming. You don't see casual players get aggressive when the DEVs add raids, never comes up. The difference between laid back people and people who make a videogame their whole world and the base their worth off of maybe?

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Originally Posted by Azper

Your thinly-veiled butt slider thread doesn't fool me.

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I mentioned booties once and that's cause I know its something a lot of people want. there is a lot more here than just butt sliders its an over all just a thread suggesting things that could add to the over all experience of the game

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

The Luminous was for XV primarily afair. Either the ARR team took the engine and jerry-rigged it for their purposes, or SE gave them use to a very scaled down version. Or of it was all something that had to be done to use the assets from Crystal.

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Yoshida sure as hell sold it as HIS team's careful (re)work in the making, around 1.21 era...

Yeah... I don't get that part. Too many unkowns there, maybe careful as in not blowing up? lol.

Less zoned areas pls. We need larger areas, bigger cities and fewer teleport black screens. The game can't become a full open world one but I'm pretty sure we can have bigger zones at least. Also I would like to see more complex and longer dungeons. Need the feeling of danger and adventure to come back. And a more active and interesting overworld. Also the character customization screen is rather poor. Needs more options. A sub based AAA MMORPG with million of characters and only 3-4 faces to choose from is lame. Graphically speaking the game needs some improvements too. The texture resolution is too low for this time and age. There are other MMORPGs out there with way better textures. There are always things to improve.

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Less zoned areas pls. We need larger areas, bigger cities and fewer teleport black screens. The game can't become a full open world one but I'm pretty sure we can have bigger zones at least. Also I would like to see more complex and longer dungeons. Need the feeling of danger and adventure to come back. And a more active and interesting overworld. Also the character customization screen is rather poor. Needs more options. A sub based AAA MMORPG with million of characters and only 3-4 faces to choose from is lame. Graphically speaking the game needs some improvements too. The texture resolution is too low for this time and age. There are other MMORPGs out there with way better textures. There are always things to improve.

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I think the zone in HW were fine in size but they had almost nothing in them. I think they should bring back exp party's from ffxi and have stronger mobs to fight for exp in the zone would make lacking little more fun

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

I want to fly everywhere (2.x zones and cities) and have mounts in cites. Will I get that? Probably not, but I can dream can't I?

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Not without a complete redesign of the 2.0 maps.