Neighbor problems.

Has anyone had an issues with neighbors constantly being in your yard or house? I know players can "go wherever they please" as I was told by a gm. But am I alone in finding it incredibly unnerving logging in and finding people sitting in your yard? Even after politely asking them to leave?

Only if they're doing something creepy. Outside is public space, inside is for privacy should you wish it since you can lock the door. :)

I do lock my doors haha. But coming outside and theres just like a person erping with a cherry tree in my yard honestly is off putting lmao

Redecorate it in the most horrendous way. There was a player on my server that had a bunch of FC's with 2 people in each, and 4 small houses. Each was decorated inside and out to just be annoying. I never met the player but I swear he just did it to be a troll. Luckily when they restarted the demo timer the houses all went poof but it was effective, although inconvenient to you for sure. Sorry about your annoying neighbors. That bites.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Only if they're doing something creepy. Outside is public space, inside is for privacy should you wish it since you can lock the door. :)

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Actually, in some countries such as Brazil whatever's behind a fence is private property. I know this is different in-game since we can't lock the front yard, but isn't it kind of common decency not to stand right at someone's door without even talking to them or refusing to leave? And I agree, actually. The in-game front yard is a public space cuz as we all know and I pointed out, we can't lock it. But it is quite rude to do what OP says they're doing.

Now, as for OP, you have the right to report them if they ever say anything harmful to you. The smallest things can get them some jail time. For instance, this one time I was in Frontline and just as it started this person said they didn't care whether we won or lost, so they were going to do whatever they wanted. I mentioned most of us were running that for the mount, so if they could please collaborate, that would be nice. The straight response was "I'll do your mom for a mount, BITCH", to which I replied "good luck with that, hon. I will also be reporting you". The person was quiet for the entirety of the run and stuck to everyone else. I did not hesitate to report them as soon as I got back to my world and I got the not-so-usual response from the dev team saying they would look into it. That response seems like it's standard, but there were times when I reported players and didn't get that message.

But if they're just sitting there, probably AFK or something, then there's really nothing you can do. Perhaps follow OliviaJ's advice, or remove every decor from your yard. No decor, no randoms loitering around.

Loitering around is one thing, but ERPing in their yard is another thing (presumably in say chat if they're noticing it).

Yikes.

Someine is ERping a cherry tree in your yard? I can't stop laughing at the thought of this. Logging on the some bulk-arse Roe in a skimpy BroRoe attire making suggestive comments to a tree. Bahahahahahahahaha. You dirty cherry tree you!

I always leave my house unlocked, I never care who's hanging out. If it bugs me I just lock the door, but usually nah. The worst neighbours I've had were genuinely just confused about what RP is and weren't much of a bother.

Seems like it takes out the point of the housing ward. You're not on an isolated island, and out door decorations are meant for other players to admire. I know I dash through people's yards all the time when I'm making a beeline to the Mist Beach and am not near an aether. Would be horribly inconvenient if I'm about to parkour hardcore to a roof and get hit with an invisible wall.

Also I doubt blocking people outside your gate will help get rid of the creep when they can just stand there and twerk outside your doorstep. You're still seeing them after all.

Make the yard look terrible if its a problem. I see no problems with people passing through my yards and I do cross others yards and water their plants. I don't know if it actually has effect, but I walk around watering peoples plants in the neighborhood incase they forget.

No, not really. I mean, people DO constantly hang out in my yard and house, but I actually like that. I'm happy they love the look of it or feel comfy enough there to keep returning :)
And I take it as a compliment and enjoy the company and little conversations that start because of it.

That said, ERP is not something I'd want to see there, and it has been jarring coming online only to recieve a /tell "Oh btw, your bed is really comfy, we had a lot of "fun" on it...( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)" or to come home after a long day of grinding to log off at home and find people erping in my bathtub..>.> It's been rare enough though to not warrant locking my house to all visitors.

As for solutions to your problem:
Lock your house so they can't get inside. If they are being harmless in the yard, learn to apprechiate howw lively it feels with them around^^
If they are being creepy and/or think they need to erp there, report them for that, as sexual talk in a public chat is forbidden anyway.

I had a player who owns a house right above mine demand I take down my chimney because it was in their "view" of the water...

...needless to say, I ended up getting one of those Adventurer house skins with an animated chimney that was almost 2x taller than my old chimney. Oops.

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Originally Posted by iluvOP

Make the yard look terrible if its a problem. I see no problems with people passing through my yards and I do cross others yards and water their plants. I don't know if it actually has effect, but I walk around watering peoples plants in the neighborhood incase they forget.

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It actually does, and you're a good person! I came across a neighbor's plants wilting with the horrible purple mist; I watered them and that cleared it up, so I know watering others' plants does work.

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

I had a player who owns a house right above mine demand I take down my chimney because it was in their "view" of the water...

...needless to say, I ended up getting one of those Adventurer house skins with an animated chimney that was almost 2x taller than my old chimney. Oops.

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You, sir, are my new hero.

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

...needless to say, I ended up getting one of those Adventurer house skins with an animated chimney that was almost 2x taller than my old chimney. Oops.

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Or you could have just, you know, declined like a normal person, if you cared about your chimney so much? I really don't get why being horrible to your fellow neighbours is considered commendable in any way :rolleyes:

When the house across the stream from my house got resold, first thing I did was find the new owner and ask him what kind of yard decorations he was planning on putting up.
Along with asking him to not use crazy glowing stuff if he wouldn't mind. He didn't mind, and now we have two beautiful, natural gardens next to the river :)
If he had said no though, there is absolutely nothing I could have done about it. And that's fine. It's a question, and unless it's something one cares about, I don't see any reason to keep inconveniencing the one asking.
But if it's something they care about, well, I'll just have to deal with it, that's how life works.
I just expect people to be mature enough to politely decline something they don't want instead of the "now more than ever" attitute of a defiant child by making everything as unbearable for someone else as possible...

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Originally Posted by Atoli

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There's a difference between reasonably talking to someone up front and asking if you can coordinate (though that's still rather presumptuous; we have to deal with HOAs and busy-body neighbors IRL, already), and demanding someone completely remove a decoration they've already paid for (and most likely not put something back in its place, because any chimney could be in the way). That's just a bratty, entitled mentality. If Chevronone wants a chimney he bought on the house he bought, he can have that chimney.

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Originally Posted by Sylfaein

It actually does, and you're a good person! I came across a neighbor's plants wilting with the horrible purple mist; I watered them and that cleared it up, so I know watering others' plants does work.

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I HAD NO IDEA! Guess I know what I'm gonna do when I'm bored. Gonna water all of the plants! \o/

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Originally Posted by Yiazy

Has anyone had an issues with neighbors constantly being in your yard or house? I know players can "go wherever they please" as I was told by a gm. But am I alone in finding it incredibly unnerving logging in and finding people sitting in your yard? Even after politely asking them to leave?

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I've been having the same problem. My neighbor lets out his Miqo'te every so often, and I keep finding them laying in my yard and killing the grass. Sometimes I hear them doing that weird meow at night when they're in heat. It sucks having to get up in the middle of the night to turn the hose on them.

Moreover, the occasional Beastman "merchant" likes to ride through the street with his supply carriage. They like to play that awful music the kids listen to nowadays. If the Flames weren't so busy, I'd bribe them to get rid of the rabble.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

When the house across the stream from my house got resold, first thing I did was find the new owner and ask him what kind of yard decorations he was planning on putting up.
Along with asking him to not use crazy glowing stuff if he wouldn't mind..

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Yikes that is presumptuous and annoying as hell, my dude. They probably only complied because they didn't want to listen to any whining about what they did with their yard that they bought and paid for themselves.

You sound like one of those people IRL who calls Bylaw when their neighbors do yard work they don't like.

There is some outdoor furnishing that you can even place such as one side of them is on your neighboor's terrain.
For example the Living Arch:
http://en.ff14housing.com/images/pic...556fb_img1.jpg
You can place it so one end is on your lawn, and the other end on your neighboor's lawn. Allowing for a friendly bridge, at least if it is consensual :p

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

There is some outdoor furnishing that you can even place such as one side of them is on your neighboor's terrain.
For example the Living Arch:
http://en.ff14housing.com/images/pic...556fb_img1.jpg
You can place it so one end is on your lawn, and the other end on your neighboor's lawn. Allowing for a friendly bridge, at least if it is consensual :p

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This is great (if consensual, obviously!). Makes me wish that my house was closer to either my FC house or my aunt's house. Mine is in the Beds, the FC in Mist and my aunt's is in the Goblet, so no chance of a lovely arch to link our plots!

OP, I totally get you. I realize it's "public space" but it's still MY YARD dangit.

I've had a little lala jumping about in my yard at times. I just thought it was weird and ignored him. Maybe just ignore the neighbors and eventually, when they don't get your attention, they will not come back?

ETA: Thinking more on this:

I realize this is a game with pixels and all, but still. Would you be okay with people doing this in your yard IRL? Nope.

The other day, I looked out my back window to see some woman wandering through my back yard. I had no idea who she was. Our yard is not fenced (many in our neighborhood are not; I like it that the deer--and occasionally my neighbor's horse!--come wandering through every now and again), but still. Is it okay for some unknown person to just wander around on private property? NO!

I did question this woman in my yard, but I wish I'd been gutsy enough to say what I really should have said (I'm very non-confrontational and you never know with people these days...). I should have said "Next time you're looking for a dog, better come to the front door and ASK first, or I might shoot first and ask questions later."

So yeah, it's a game, but again, it's still MY YARD. :)

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Originally Posted by Pyrali

Yikes that is presumptuous and annoying as hell, my dude. They probably only complied because they didn't want to listen to any whining about what they did with their yard that they bought and paid for themselves.

You sound like one of those people IRL who calls Bylaw when their neighbors do yard work they don't like.

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Who is the one full of presumptions now..? :rolleyes:
It'not real life, you don't have to "fear" someone whining, you can just one-click blacklist them and never hear from them again. Most players just don't have any plans whatsoever in the first place, the want a house for the functionality (ability to plant stuff, etc.) and do not care about decorating. This wasn't any different, he said he really doesn't give a damn about the look and I am free to decorate it for him (which I didn't).

All I've done in this thread is promoting to TALK to people, not call GMs upon anyone, not terrorize them through obnoxious furniture. But you assume in rl I'm suddenly the type to do the opposite of what I promote here? Good jo on that leap of logic >.>

It might actually surprise you that I'm a great neighbour (both ingame and out) that is friends with everyone around, even my direct neighbour who's yard is just an atrocious explosion of anything glowy he could find and pile on each other. It's absolutely unbearable to see for me, so my only escape is to turn the camera towards the other direction whenever I'm outside, and, well, that's where the stream and the aforementioned new neighbour are. If he had had the same taste, I would have had no escape anymore.

I really don't understand the notion of "it's my property so I should bother everyone around me as much as possible!", neither irl nor ingame. Sure, you CAN, but it makes you kind of an a**hole, if you do it on purpose. If it's not something you actually care about, would it hurt you to do something to make life more pleasant for those around you?
This mentality is the reason why df is such a toxic place. Nobody thinks "Hey, maybe I should wear up-to-date gear and actually do my rotations right so this run goes fast and smoothly for everyone". It's more of a "lemme see how much I can slack off and inconvenience other players before they get so annoyed that they kick me, then continue to only do said bare minimum!" It's always just ME!ME!ME! without ever stopping and seeing how it affects the other people around >.>
And yes, of course I have my own preferences in mind too, but I'd never try to enforce them towards people who obviously have their own (like, I'd never ask my direct neighbour to tone down on the glowy stuff, because I know he cares about the look of his house and actually likes it), and I said time and again that turning down a request is fine too (like if I got asked to take down my chimney because they thought it wouldn't be a big deal, but I actually really like it, so I'll say no) - what I said is not fine is exactly one thing, and that's annoying someone else JUST BECAUSE THEY ASKED. That's so incredibly childish, how can an adult act so spiteful over nothing? And calling him a hero for doing that tells me more about this community than I wanted to know. It's the same as when people go "woohoo you are sooo amazing for not doing your job because someone else in your party doesn't do it either, so go ahead and make life hell for the other 2/6/22 players because we totally dig that!"

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Originally Posted by Atoli

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Somehow, we've gone from obnoxious neighbors telling you what to do with your house, to cruddy DF parties in one giant, nigh-incomprehensible ranting text wall.

Look:
Neighbor demanding dude not use a chimney because it's in his view? Jerk.
Dude upgrading to larger chimney to spite obnoxious neighbor? Hilarious. And justified.

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Originally Posted by Sylfaein

Look:
Neighbor demanding dude not use a chimney because it's in his view? Jerk.
Dude upgrading to larger chimney to spite obnoxious neighbor? Hilarious. And justified.

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If more than 2 lines of text are too much of an effort to read for you, I'll make it simple:
Neighbour asking if it would be too much to not to use a chimney because it's in his view? Just a simple request you can turn down if you actually care about your chimney.
Dude upgrading to a larger chimney just to spite someone else who didn't hurt him in any way? A jerk.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

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Adorable, but no.

It's not that it's too much effort, it's that it's a rambling wall of angst about topics that wander far outside of housing. This thread is about people being obnoxious in the housing wards, not Duty Finder.

Moral of the story is that he who spends the money on the plot gets to decide what to do with it. I see decoration in the housing wards that boggles my mind as to who could find it attractive, but you know what I do? I IGNORE IT. It's not my property, and not my business. I'm not going to be the obnoxious busy-body neighbor, telling my neighbors that they can't have chimneys or glowing decorations. I focus on making my place pretty, and go on about my business.

If your neighbor's decorations are such a big deal to you, just buy a whole ward in 4.0. That way, everything can be nice and vanilla for you, and no neighbors have to worry about getting the in-game equivalent of a letter from the HOA.

Not going to lie, this is a weird thread.

"It must be nice to have a house you can decorate and complain about the neighbours with." - Balmung millionaire.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

"It must be nice to have a house you can decorate and complain about the neighbours with." - Balmung millionaire.

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I have two houses. Come to Hyperion. :D

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Originally Posted by Niraves

I have two houses. Come to Hyperion. :D

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And I've watched two smalls depreciate for as many days, on Exodus! The demo system works. :3

Now, if it would only level someone's mansion...

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Originally Posted by Atoli

Neighbour asking if it would be too much to not to use a chimney because it's in his view? Just a simple request you can turn down if you actually care about your chimney.
Dude upgrading to a larger chimney just to spite someone else who didn't hurt him in any way? A jerk.

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Did you not read my post? I said they "demanded". There was no asking or conversation. If I were your neighbor and you "demanded" I not use too many glowing decorations, my lawn would literally be brighter than Las Vegas.

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Originally Posted by Chevronone

Did you not read my post? I said they "demanded". There was no asking or conversation. If I were your neighbor and you "demanded" I not use too many glowing decorations, my lawn would literally be brighter than Las Vegas.

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You know, I've actually considered doing a quick redeco project on my lawn to fill it with glowing things, and then taking a picture of my toon standing there, wearing shades and a smirk, just so I can post it in here.

I thought I was alone in being creepy in people's houses. I like to wander around the neighborhood and check inside people's unlocked houses and yards for ideas for my own property, also just to see their fun setups.

Everyone in a while though someone might be home. Then it becomes see how long I can sneak around without them noticing me. Using my camera to look at them around corners trying to see the whole house and leave without being spotted.

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Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

I thought I was alone in being creepy in people's houses. I like to wander around the neighborhood and check inside people's unlocked houses and yards for ideas for my own property, also just to see their fun setups.

Everyone in a while though someone might be home. Then it becomes see how long I can sneak around without them noticing me. Using my camera to look at them around corners trying to see the whole house and leave without being spotted.

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I look in many a player's house for ideas as well. Rarely get caught. Only once have I entered the house of an acquaintance of mine and been asked to "come back later and visit" because they were practicing for a play. Otherwise people typically want to show their stuff off and likely will friend you.

I love looking around in other people's houses, I get caught sometimes but I'm sure to wear my golden piggy outfit so they at least have something to laugh at.

Yes my neighbour winds me up, but only due to them having a mansion with no more than 6 items in it. Has been like that for over a year now and yes total jealousy as we want a big house to decorate lol

I creep in my neighbor's houses and bad mouth their design choices to my FC mates haha
In all seriousness though, it annoys me too sometimes that i have people camping my house despite me logging in every day for hours and going inside it, etc. My house doesn't even look like a dead house >.<

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Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

I thought I was alone in being creepy in people's houses. I like to wander around the neighborhood and check inside people's unlocked houses and yards for ideas for my own property, also just to see their fun setups.

Everyone in a while though someone might be home. Then it becomes see how long I can sneak around without them noticing me. Using my camera to look at them around corners trying to see the whole house and leave without being spotted.

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I do the same, minus I always check their placard (for FCs) and if one or more people is on I don't bother going inside. XD

I would not bother seeing people appreciating my garden and the house, the truth is that my house is "away" from the others so I never see other people, unfortunately. (Adding that the neighborhoods are dead! (At least in Hyperion)

Although I suppose I would bother if I see AFK people several hours or doing RP/ERP.

Sometimes I get into the houses of others, but first I assure myself that there is nobody inside, because I find it a bit embarrassing to find the owner haha :p

I hardly see anyone in my residential district and if I do I get really excited.

My last neighbor transferred servers, but I hardly ever saw them anyways.