The lack of actual playable content in 1.20 is a bummer. :( Discussion!

Hey all, I haven't been playing much lately at all because the lack of content gives me very little reason to log in. Once you have your Ifrit weapons of choice and some materia in your gear, there just isn't too much else to do. I just read the letter from Yoshi, and see that 1.20 will pretty much only contain the primal moogle battle as far as content goes. I imagine once people have it on farm a week or two after release, many of us may end up taking an extended break till 1.21 or (possibly) until v2.0 if they haven't already.

I understand that the system revamps (making the game actually playable) are far more important than playable content at this point, but it's still gonna be a huge bummer seeing the player-base dwindle because of the lack of new things to do. At this point, I look at the current game as more of a stepping stone for v2.0 (we're basically beta testers until next year), which will be when we'll actually want to play this game full-time.

So I wanted to know how others viewed this dearth of content, and if you all will still be logging in regularly for the next patch and beyond. Do you plan to stick around?

P.S., do not misread this as some kind of developer bashing thread. Lack of content is a reality we will have to deal with until the core game systems are fixed and up to par, so I'm sure all of us expected this time to come.

P.P.S., best of luck to Yoshi's team on continuing to make improvements to the game, hope the road to v2.0 continues along smoothly.

How can you say there is a lack of Content if you didnt even finished half of it? Just saying.

Of course there is way more Content coming, and in every Patch SE is adding more and more Stuff. I also miss some Stuff in this Game like Housing, Gardening, Largescale Battles, Alliance etc. But i never would say there is a lack of Content, its more like "wishfull thinking".

btw.. did you even touch the Stronghold Boss'? They are fun to fight and actually Content you are prolly looking for.

idk, primal fights as the main source of content? what about traversing various dangerous terrain for cut scenes? or attacks on strong holds you can defend for various reasons (mats, base gear, exclusive useable items)?
oh wait, there kind of arent various terrains for another year and Yoshi already said there wont be any random attacks on anything in FFXIV
guess were stuck with Primal fights :/

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

oh wait, there kind of arent various terrains for another year and Yoshi already said there wont be any random attacks on anything in FFXIV

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Right.. that is why they add Hamlet Defense in 1.21, 2 new Dungeons in 1.21 and 1 more Primal in 1.20... <_<

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Originally Posted by Nero

Right.. that is why they add Hamlet Defense in 1.21, 2 new Dungeons in 1.21 and 1 more Primal in 1.20... <_<

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last i read there isnt any info on what exactly hamlet defenses are gonna be, they could be as lame and boring as everything the GCs have to offer so far, and your right, i did forget about the dungeons. and the focus on primal fights is what i was against in my post lol

I really dislike the idea of single battles just for endgame content.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

last i read there isnt any info on what exactly hamlet defenses are gonna be, they could be as lame and boring as everything the GCs have to offer so far, and your right, i did forget about the dungeons. and the focus on primal fights is what i was against in my post lol

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Well i dont know what the English Notes are saying.. but according to German Notes Hamlet Defense should be something like Besieged. Could be timed Attacks from Beastman/Imperial Army or Random Attacks. We will know soon enough but im really looking forward to it.

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Originally Posted by Nero

How can you say there is a lack of Content if you didnt even finished half of it? Just saying.

Of course there is way more Content coming, and in every Patch SE is adding more and more Stuff. I also miss some Stuff in this Game like Housing, Gardening, Largescale Battles, Alliance etc. But i never would say there is a lack of Content, its more like "wishfull thinking".

btw.. did you even touch the Stronghold Boss'? They are fun to fight and actually Content you are prolly looking for.

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Uhh, what do you mean I haven't touched half the content? I've killed Ifrit more times than I want to admit, I've levelled all the classes I want to level, I've maxed out my craft, and I've already double materia'd all my gear. I've done the strongholds, they're one day affairs for crappy gear that is strictly inferior to what I already have. There is no content left in the game for players like me.

Your post is disjointed and irrelevant to my discussion. There is a huge lack of endgame content in game for players right now. This is a fact. Patch 1.20 is only adding a single boss battle worth of content. This is also a fact. Combine the two, and we will have absolutely nothing to do for several months at this rate until 1.21 is completed and finished. The lack of game content is a reality, not an opinion (go compare to ANY other MMO and you will see that this game is sorely lacking).

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Originally Posted by Ronik

Uhh, what do you mean I haven't touched half the content?

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Content is actually every single Quest, every Fight, every NM, every Dungeon, every completation of Questline, Exping your Classes and so on. You are below 300 Achievements ( Which are actually telling which Content you did and which you dont ), the current Max is 704. So you didnt touched half of the existing Content.

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Originally Posted by Ronik

I've killed Ifrit more times than I want to admit, I've levelled all the classes I want to level, I've maxed out my craft, and I've already double materia'd all my gear.

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That is what i meant. Killing Ifrit isnt the only Content out there.. If you are just talking about Primal-fights, then i agree that we dont have much like that at the moment. But on the other Hand even Stronghold boss is worth a shot and actually challenging if you go with 1 Party and dont leach the Adds.

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Originally Posted by Ronik

I've done the strongholds, they're one day affairs for crappy gear that is strictly inferior to what I already have. There is no content left in the game for players like me.

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Going to first Chest doesnt mean you did Stronholds. You didnt beat the Boss, did you even try it? Did you get the Sentinal Pieces? And Siph. Turban? Those are actually the best Gear-pieces atm for the Classes you leveld. So i dont get how you can say "crappy Gear". Str+5 for hat? You cant put STR or DD-related Materia to headgear. Sentinal you can put Materia on and its far better than Cobalt.. so how is it crap?

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Originally Posted by Ronik

Your post is disjointed and irrelevant to my discussion.

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Read it again.

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Originally Posted by Ronik

There is a huge lack of endgame content in game for players right now. This is a fact.

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You DID NOT touch any Stronghold Boss neither did get Sentinal Gear, which is actually Endgame Content. Do your Homework please.

Nothing they do will be able to keep up with people who just burn through content and then ask whats next, learn to deal with it.

Most of their efforts are working on 2.0 regardless of what they say, I wouldn't even be surprised if they are holding back content for 2.0.

If the achievement system is well implemented -fingers crossed- then hunting achievements will be quite fun and a lot of "content"

Agree. Completely with this post.

Some ideas of what could be implemented for a timesink which in my opinion seem pretty reasonable.

-Implement XP Chain to make Craft/Gathering a faster and more enjoyable experience, encouraging players to max other jobs they may not have done previously.
-Make Job's level like normal, not abilities through Questing. Its not hard to reach 1-50 and it would certainly give players a bigger sense of achievement.
-Implement a PvE Arena where players progress through a stage like system (MASSIVE Timesink)
-Implement NM's that drop socketable Gear
-Gambling System (both gilsink and timesink)
-Chocobo Racing similar to FFX (May be difficult to implement with server in current state)
-Implement a Triple Triad similar game

Morale seems to be getting kind of low lately. Theres been no screenshots of the new re-design's for the zones. How about a couple of snipets to keep people focused on whats to come.

Ahaha, Nero checking peoples profiles again, digital stalker.

i sure hope they add more than instances & primal boss fights every patch, same thing different look.

45+ instance so far = run past all mobs to gates then fight boss. lv25 instance just go in as level lv50.

primal fight = bum rush with mrd's and/or lnc's then win. wear (elemental earings)

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Originally Posted by Eugenics

Ahaha, Nero checking peoples profiles again, digital stalker.

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I cant remember that i ever checked yours?! Dont know what your point is, but according to the last Posts i saw from you, you are one of those people which like to troll any Thread without having arguments. So back to your hole, Troll. k thanks bye.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Agree. Completely with this post.

Some ideas of what could be implemented for a timesink which in my opinion seem pretty reasonable.

-Implement XP Chain to make Craft/Gathering a faster and more enjoyable experience, encouraging players to max other jobs they may not have done previously.
-Make Job's level like normal, not abilities through Questing. Its not hard to reach 1-50 and it would certainly give players a bigger sense of achievement.
-Implement a PvE Arena where players progress through a stage like system (MASSIVE Timesink)
-Implement NM's that drop socketable Gear
-Gambling System (both gilsink and timesink)
-Chocobo Racing similar to FFX (May be difficult to implement with server in current state)
-Implement a Triple Triad similar game

Morale seems to be getting kind of low lately. Theres been no screenshots of the new re-design's for the zones. How about a couple of snipets to keep people focused on whats to come.

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Most of the Stuff you mentioned are about to come. Was either confirmed or mentioned on the Roadmap. Even a consideration of a Game similiar to "Triple Triad" was mentioned in the Newsletter. So Patience is all you need for the Stuff you listed. I dont see a need of XP-Chains for DoH/DoL tho.

I'm not trolling man, but... Are you sure? I'm having always something to do when I enter Eorzea, and even if I don't, I just create events among players.
Here's a trick: We're waiting for more content that they've planned for the future, rite? Then if you ever get bored without anything to do, create content by yourself. Start a fishing contest, a racing challenge,... Anything that might bring you fun!

And stop looking at lootz for a second. It's just something that limits your fun!

Once again, just because you personally don't want to do the content in the game, doesn't mean the content is not there. That is YOUR fault. An old saying, "if you are bored, it is because you are boring."

Like other people have said, you have less than half the achievements, go do some content if you want something to do! I recommend coffer hunting in Shposhae, it is THE most fun thing to do in this game right now imo, especially if you bring a lv. 25-ish class and a couple buddies.


You can whine all you want that there is no content YOU personally want to do, but don't say there is no content in the game. Its an outright lie.

You guys need to stop complaining about the lack of content in patches and complain more about the subscription fee. Trust me you don't want them shifting focus from 2.0 to patches that will become meaningless in a year.

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Once again, just because you personally don't want to do the content in the game, doesn't mean the content is not there. That is YOUR fault. An old saying, "if you are bored, it is because you are boring."

Like other people have said, you have less than half the achievements, go do some content if you want something to do! I recommend coffer hunting in Shposhae, it is THE most fun thing to do in this game right now imo, especially if you bring a lv. 25-ish class and a couple buddies.


You can whine all you want that there is no content YOU personally want to do, but don't say there is no content in the game. Its an outright lie.

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The highlighted comment is one of the most asinine comments I've read on these forums. The burden of relieving said boredom is on the developers, NOT the player!

Well you just checked my last posts Nero you dirty stalker now get back to that dark alley. ;) "k thanks bye."

Considering we haven't played the patch we have no idea what's in it. Sont forget the quests, the company quests, and the 7th umberal area quests that they are adding each patch. If you arent satisfied, come back at 1.21 which jobs that way you'll have twice as much to do before the next patch comes out. :)

ifrit got old fast, grinding chests and materia at strongholds is retardedly boring now. killing the leaders and nm's is just for fun and achievements which is too damn easy to be considered a challenge or even end game. we needed a patch and more content weeks ago

The "lack of content" would be attributed to the fact that they're fixing an entire game at the moment, if I had to guess. If all they had to worry about was content, I imagine we'd be getting a lot more of it. As it stands though they've got just about everything in the game to change before content is their biggest concern. All the content in the world couldn't help a game that's shitty at its core.

There isnt a single MMO out there who can add content quick enough to keep people interested in anything but a "mindless repeat grind of it" patch after patch.

This especialy holds true for the people who are farming the current endgame stuff.

new stuff gets added, ignore old, farm new, finish it, complain again.

Its an endless cycle in MMOs, and the only real big gap in complaining comes from release of expansion level content cuz there is usualy more of it all at once.(i figure we will see this for 2.0, as a version jump usualy dictates expansion level)

I don't honestly believe you can think there is lack of content in this game:

I was in Top 20 US WoW guild and I logged in.... 3 hours per week.

FFXIV I have ~650 achievements (So Nero doesn't have to stalk!) and I play about 30 hours a week meaning at least for me, this game has 10x the content WoW had.

Its all about figuring out something to do, and if you have nothing to do just go play like Skyrim until 1.20 and do that content and play more Skyrim? IDK

I'm kind of in a lull myself right now because I'm tired of doing Ifrit over and over for the few weapons I'm missing. I'm not in a rush to level my classes to 50 so I'm not tackling that right now. I hope between the achievements and the other content they're adding this patch that it'll keep my interest until 1.21. Otherwise I may just shut off my content ID until then once I've done everything I want to accomplish this patch.

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Originally Posted by Vexerus

The highlighted comment is one of the most asinine comments I've read on these forums. The burden of relieving said boredom is on the developers, NOT the player!

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So it is the developers job to make everyone happy? Impossible. If EVERYONE playing the game was bored, you would have a point. But it's not as much of a majority as the forums believe.

My point was that there is plenty of content that MANY people are quite happy with (myself included) so if the OP is bored, it is his own fault for ignoring the content that is there.

If he doesn't like what the game has to offer, that is perfectly fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But he should just play a different game, because whining that the game is empty is ignorant, and bad form.

He can dislike the game all he wants. He can say he doesn't like the content (if he bothers to go out and try it, which I doubt.) He CAN'T say there is no content. It's a lie, and I find it offensive that he would suggest much of the content isn't worthy of being in the game because he personally doesn't want to complete it, or even try it for that matter. It sends a bad message to the devs.

Play the new Legend of Zelda now til 1.20 and if your still bored FF13-2 comes out soon. Plenty of other stuff to do rather than play a game your obviously bored with...

Dude where did you get 1.20? I want. Q_Q

Strongholds, coffer key parties, dungeons, and primal fights, they all bore the crap out of me. Why?

Cause I have to be a god damn healer... 1.20 is supposed to fix that, but like a said in a previous thread/post I am not holding my breathe for it.

I am not getting to play as a role I can enjoy, so how can I enjoy the content?

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Originally Posted by Nero

I cant remember that i ever checked yours?! Dont know what your point is, but according to the last Posts i saw from you, you are one of those people which like to troll any Thread without having arguments. So back to your hole, Troll. k thanks bye.




Most of the Stuff you mentioned are about to come. Was either confirmed or mentioned on the Roadmap. Even a consideration of a Game similiar to "Triple Triad" was mentioned in the Newsletter. So Patience is all you need for the Stuff you listed. I dont see a need of XP-Chains for DoH/DoL tho.

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Where does it say anything about a card game?

I must admit, I think the lack of content is a problem for me, though, I'm not 50 yet (and I see no reason in leveling all classes to 50, especially with v2.0 coming around next year). The intervals where you have something to do are getting smaller, but are still too broad. Combined with many stupidly easy (e.g.class) quests it takes out the fun real quick for me.
I'm really hoping for a less strict level cap or level synch. system. Hopefully, patch 1.20 will turn this game around difficulty wise.

I agree with the OP I wish we were getting one of those raids from 1.21 in 1.20, or Hamlet defense battles or something.

Maybe the level 50 versions of the Chocobo Escort quests will be fun, and worth it (given the lvl 30 versions, I doubt it). I don't want to do the Dark Moogle fight until February. I will, but I wish there was a little more coming for me to play through as I have no interest in stuff like chasing achievements from menial low-mid level quests.

They said they were adding new NM's also, so I'm hoping that means we will get surprised with some high level world NM's worth killing.

Like I said in the other thread...

We are getting class changes. No one will fight the same. Fighting darkhold, ifrit, and NM will be different experience.

BAM NEW CONTENT. They did say themselves that this wasn't a content patch, so please just shut up about content already. I think changing and balancing new class skills is more important than releasing some more instances without balance.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Like I said in the other thread...

We are getting class changes. No one will fight the same. Fighting darkhold, ifrit, and NM will be different experience.

BAM NEW CONTENT. They did say themselves that this wasn't a content patch, so please just shut up about content already. I think changing and balancing new class skills is more important than releasing some more instances without balance.

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They changed combat in 1.19. it didn't exactly make me want to go back and do Darkhold for.... rewards that I already have and would never use again.

I guess in your world though games don't have to entertain you as long as you can entertain yourself. White padded rooms may be a cheap entertainment alternative in that case.

Just fine tuning really. It will be nice to have jewelry that doesn't suck, food that is worth while and some additional things to aid in the current gameplay but I agree to some extent. Really just trying to bury the idiotic "Less XP" thread.

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Originally Posted by SAMINUS

Where does it say anything about a card game?

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He is talking about that his Team was showing him different Ideas about CardGames but he didnt really found them great enough so far, but if he ever gets one which he really loves, he will consider it. Its in the Live Interview.

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Originally Posted by Eugenics

Well you just checked my last posts Nero you dirty stalker now get back to that dark alley. ;) "k thanks bye."

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LoL nope. Sorry to burst your bubble and your dreams of beeing stalked by me. I just rememberd your last Posts from the last Thread you was trolling in. Trolls are easy to remember, since they always post the same crap over and over again. Whatever you are smoking, you should stop it.... looks like your Brain is melting or something.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

They changed combat in 1.19. it didn't exactly make me want to go back and do Darkhold for.... rewards that I already have and would never use again.

I guess in your world though games don't have to entertain you as long as you can entertain yourself. White padded rooms may be a cheap entertainment alternative in that case.

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No, I find other things to do than just do endgame stuff. I craft, I play with friends, go adventure out, play other games so I don't do all the content in one sitting.... you know, making the game last longer and all.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

No, I find other things to do than just do endgame stuff. I craft, I play with friends, go adventure out, play other games so I don't do all the content in one sitting.... you know, making the game last longer and all.

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It is an MMO. You shouldn't be able to do all the content in one sitting, that is why it carries a subscription price...

I have no hate with what-so-ever in this latest patch, or 1.21 so far, or any of the news coming out of the wood-works thus far.

I'm satisfied, this being the case since FEB this year.