When is SE going to do something real to fix the issues with housing?

I'm so tired of the fact that housing is still basically impossible after 2 years of them knowing the system is broken.

Today houses went up for about... 5 seconds. Most probably bought by people who already had 5+ or are just going to try and sell them for like 3+ x as much.

When are we going to get a real solution and not something garbage like tiny apartments?

Never, because limited housing like this in games is really popular in Asian countries, for some reason.

With the way that they designed the housing, using the Wards and whatnot, it'll be highly unlikely that we ever get an actual solution. Each ward needs a chunk of server space. As do the instanced houses themselves, although they arent as resource heavy. But given the resources the wards require, its highly unlikely they would ever be able to have enough wards for everyone in the game to own a house, especially when players are using alts to buy multiples. They would have to have many more servers dedicated JUST to the housing, and that would end up costing them too much in the long run.

The only way we'd ever see an improvement on the housing system is if they rebuilt it from the ground up.. and that's even less likely to happen.

Well, me 'n' my 50 Million Gil are waiting to spend it on a house for my FC...
Not like there's anything else to spend gil on in this game.

You mean by "real issues" the fact that those who have not are screwed? What housing?

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Originally Posted by Cinno

With the way that they designed the housing, using the Wards and whatnot, it'll be highly unlikely that we ever get an actual solution. Each ward needs a chunk of server space. As do the instanced houses themselves, although they arent as resource heavy. But given the resources the wards require, its highly unlikely they would ever be able to have enough wards for everyone in the game to own a house, especially when players are using alts to buy multiples. They would have to have many more servers dedicated JUST to the housing, and that would end up costing them too much in the long run.

The only way we'd ever see an improvement on the housing system is if they rebuilt it from the ground up.. and that's even less likely to happen.

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Make it so that it's impossible for people to have like 5-10+ houses on one account. There's a huge step forward right there.

Well, storm blood is coming with more housing so it's coming so it's something they are constantly working on. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it's something they can just grant everyone.

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Originally Posted by Lyshell

Well, storm blood is coming with more housing so it's coming so it's something they are constantly working on. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it's something they can just grant everyone.

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More houses to be bought up in <5 minutes by the same people who already have multiple others or people who will just try and flip it for 10x the price?

They are not working on fixing this in any way that will actually solve something.

No one is asking that one be handed to them. They're asking that they have the opportunity to buy one. Or at least something similar - not the garbage consolation prize that is an apartment.

This should have been fixed over a year ago at minimum.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

This should have been fixed over a year ago at minimum.

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You say fixed like it's a bug. SE wants full housing to be limited and elite. It's by design.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

You say fixed like it's a bug. SE wants full housing to be limited and elite. It's by design.

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There's nothing "limited" or "elite" about having a ton of alts and being free to be online during hte 5 minutes when housing is available...

Many people have the resources to purchase them if there were any for sale.

Buying up a ton of a limited resource isn't "limited" or "elite" its greedy and rude.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

More houses to be bought up in <5 minutes by the same people who already have multiple others or people who will just try and flip it for 10x the price?

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Stop generalizing.

You can report people doing this at the very least at the moment. Quit being so salty.

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Originally Posted by Crysten

Stop generalizing.

You can report people doing this at the very least at the moment. Quit being so salty.

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I do report people. I'll stop being "salty" (aka- you disagree with me so I'm wrong) when they fix something that's been broken for like 2 years.

I own a large house and I support this thread 100%. Housing has been a trainwreck ever since it was implemented.

The only way houses can be bought up on only seconds after they reclaimed is the person is either camping the wards or have inside knowledge. When I found my house it was a reclaim and lot just sitting there empty even had enough time for a friend to come loan me some gil cause I was short. Because as far as I know the reclaim timer was not reset it was just paused so pretty much a house could get reclaimed at any time.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

The only way houses can be bought up on only seconds after they reclaimed is the person is either camping the wards or have inside knowledge. When I found my house it was a reclaim and lot just sitting there empty even had enough time for a friend to come loan me some gil cause I was short. Because as far as I know the reclaim timer was not reset it was just paused so pretty much a house could get reclaimed at any time.

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This is true. The lodestone post even warned players to enter their house before the maintenance because it was a possibility their house could have been reclaimed while maintenance was happening.

Just have to keep checking and get lucky and snag a reclaimed house. Hundreds of people will be doing the same.

More housing plots are coming with 4.0. Please look forward to it.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

Make it so that it's impossible for people to have like 5-10+ houses on one account. There's a huge step forward right there.

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Solution: Share the house between all characters on the same world on that account, superseding people's ability and need to have multiple houses.

But that would probably be too much common sense.

If it that big for you then Move servers easy fix, still many servers with 100s of open houses. The End Good Bye!

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Originally Posted by Riardon

More housing plots are coming with 4.0. Please look forward to it.

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More housing plots will not fix the problem of people owning many houses.

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Originally Posted by Lulu89

If it that big for you then Move servers easy fix, still many servers with 100s of open houses. The End Good Bye!

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So leave my FC and all my friends and go live in a server where nothing ever happens because SE can't fix something simple?

There's a housing problem? Everything looks fine to me.

Housing Abuse is literally the biggest thing that gets my blood boiling in ffxiv and it seriously pisses me off how lazy SE applies bandaids that help for a full 10 minutes then it's fucked again. God damnt, tired of being screwed over because I can't be at the computer waiting for demolitions when people own 10 houses between alts and I can't even have 1 small plot to call home.

OP,

Stop blaming SE for your two year laziness. SE has attempted to solve the housing issue, potentially, the best they could. You have understood the lack of housing for two years. What do individuals do when their environment changes? They adapt or crumble in failure. Here a few ways you could have adapted.

1. Save gil and buy house legit
2. Save gil and buy in black market
3. Set your alarm, on housing patch day, and buy.
4. Stalk housing areas and find a demo house.

I have no empathy towards you. Stop blaming other players for your lack of saving, planning, and jealousy.

Also, you could have a house already and are just stirring the pot.

Have a BRILLIANT weekend!

XOXO

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Originally Posted by Falmer

OP,

1. Save gil and buy house legit
2. Save gil and buy in black market
3. Set your alarm, on housing patch day, and buy.
4. Stalk housing areas and find a demo house.

I have no empathy towards you. Stop blaming other players for your lack of saving, planning, and jealousy.

Also, you could have a house already and are just stirring the pot.

Have a BRILLIANT weekend!

XOXO

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1. Doesn\\'t work when no houses available
2. Black market prices are retardedly high and against TOS
3. Servers have issues, houses will be gone by time you sit through the login queues.
4. Because we magically know which houses are going to be demolished?

Please shut up, you obviously don\\'t understand the real issues for people.

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No one is asking that one be handed to them. They're asking that they have the opportunity to buy one. Or at least something similar - not the garbage consolation prize that is an apartment.

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Dude you are way too angry at this. And I wasn't saying that's what people are asking for. I am simply stating that the developers can't, or won't, hand out houses to everyone for whatever reason. It is an issues they are constantly working on and they keep tweeking to see what works and yes offer alternatives. I actually like my apartment and the only reason why I would want a house is for a garden. If it wasn't for that I would be completely happy with just the apartment.

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Originally Posted by Kenok

1. Doesn\\'t work when no houses available
2. Black market prices are retardedly high and against TOS
3. Servers have issues, houses will be gone by time you sit through the login queues.
4. Because we magically know which houses are going to be demolished?

Please shut up, you obviously don\\'t understand the real issues for people.

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All of this. Falmer is just a troll.

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Originally Posted by Lyshell

Dude you are way too angry at this. And I wasn't saying that's what people are asking for. I am simply stating that the developers can't, or won't, hand out houses to everyone for whatever reason. It is an issues they are constantly working on and they keep tweeking to see what works and yes offer alternatives. I actually like my apartment and the only reason why I would want a house is for a garden. If it wasn't for that I would be completely happy with just the apartment.

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No one wants a damn handout. They want a chance to buy something. Not people with 10 alts who are always on in the 3 minutes housing are open to snatch everything up. The apartment is terrible. It does nothing and is tiny. It is a slap in the face delivered about 3 years too late.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

No one wants a damn handout. They want a chance to buy something. Not people with 10 alts who are always on in the 3 minutes housing are open to snatch everything up. The apartment is terrible. It does nothing and is tiny. It is a slap in the face delivered about 3 years too late.

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Apartments are barely better than free company rooms so why should I even care if I already have one...

Really they could have made apartments at least have a bedroom, living room and a kitchen or something.

What is with you and handouts I'm not talking about handouts, I'm telling you they have reasons for not having players all get houses. As others have mentioned before it is something that is limited for a purpose, that is all I am saying nothing about rights or demands or handouts.

Not to hate or anything. But the housing will never be fixed. I am not sure how multiple other games can get it to work but SE servers are run by a water wheel. But as long as they never cap servers and keep trying to make the current system work for everyone (which they have proven they can't).

Maybe people are right, they want you to give them more money to transfer or maybe they don't want everyone to have a house.

I have seen suggested time and again housing be instanced tied to account(charged) and shared by all alts on server. A few times suggested retainers be removed and inventory be tied to house. I guess for everyperson bad mouthing the OP the world still has dreamers.

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Originally Posted by Lyshell

What is with you and handouts I'm not talking about handouts, I'm telling you they have reasons for not having players all get houses. As others have mentioned before it is something that is limited for a purpose, that is all I am saying nothing about rights or demands or handouts.

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There's no reason why it's okay for one person to have multiple houses when others haven't had a chance for years, no matter how you spin it. I think you're missing the real issue people have with the system. It's broken and not working, period. It's being abused into the pit by greedy western players.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Not to hate or anything. But the housing will never be fixed. I am not sure how multiple other games can get it to work but SE servers are run by a water wheel. But as long as they never cap servers and keep trying to make the current system work for everyone (which they have proven they can't).

Maybe people are right, they want you to give them more money to transfer or maybe they don't want everyone to have a house.

I have seen suggested time and again housing be instanced tied to account(charged) and shared by all alts on server. A few times suggested retainers be removed and inventory be tied to house. I guess for everyperson bad mouthing the OP the world still has dreamers.

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You could very well be right but that should not stop us from trying and voicing our frustration in hopes it changes something.

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Originally Posted by Lyshell

What is with you and handouts I'm not talking about handouts, I'm telling you they have reasons for not having players all get houses. As others have mentioned before it is something that is limited for a purpose, that is all I am saying nothing about rights or demands or handouts.

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You keep saying things shouldn't be "handed out to players." They're limited because SE doesn't want to pay for the server space - fine but probably don't allow people to get 10+ of an extremely limited resource then.

If FCs want housing, let them transfer the lot of them off high pop. servers for free to a smaller server with available housing. Yes, S-E will lose Mogstation shekles but FCs would have access to housing they wouldn't have otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Khanscott

If FCs want housing, let them transfer the lot of them off high pop. servers for free to a smaller server with available housing. Yes, S-E will lose Mogstation shekles but FCs would have access to housing they wouldn't have otherwise.

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The problem being that then you have to be on some dead server where nothing ever gets done.

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Originally Posted by ckc22

The problem being that then you have to be on some dead server where nothing ever gets done.

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They should at least not charge money to transfer to low population servers. Like cmon...

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Originally Posted by ckc22

The problem being that then you have to be on some dead server where nothing ever gets done.

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Considering the complaints I hear consistently in game and forums, those dead servers wouldn't be so dead in a very short span of time.

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Originally Posted by Kenok

There's no reason why it's okay for one person to have multiple houses when others haven't had a chance for years, no matter how you spin it.

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You're right: it's not fair that some people have multiple houses on all of their alts. But, let's be real. Fixing that will do NOTHING to alleviate the fact that most players don't have houses. The number of plots opening up would be great, but as soon as they all sold out (almost immediately), you would all be right back here complaining that you still haven't had a chance to get a house.

Letting people have multiple houses is wrong, yes, but it's NOT what's keeping you from getting one. The extremely short supply is, and that's not something that SE did by accident. They want full houses to be very few in number. That's why their answer to housing complaints was apartments, not more plots.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

You say fixed like it's a bug. SE wants full housing to be limited and elite. It's by design.

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Fluff content like this should not be 'limited' or 'elite'
With all the Cash shops shiz people spend on and PS3 being removed, they should now have more divisions and such in
with all the money and freedom they will be able to have in SB. SB should also have Ishgardian and whatever the new place
we're going in as homes. They also need to work on expanding apartments. It's literally one tiny FC room.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

You're right: it's not fair that some people have multiple houses on all of their alts. But, let's be real. Fixing that will do NOTHING to alleviate the fact that most players don't have houses. The number of plots opening up would be great, but as soon as they all sold out (almost immediately), you would all be right back here complaining that you still haven't had a chance to get a house.

Letting people have multiple houses is wrong, yes, but it's NOT what's keeping you from getting one. The extremely short supply is, and that's not something that SE did by accident. They want full houses to be very few in number. That's why their answer to housing complaints was apartments, not more plots.

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Even if there were still issues, there would be fewer issues and it would be more fair. Not being able to make something perfect is not an excuse to do nothing. Apartments are garbage. When people bring up apartments it makes me want to vomit.