The ps4 pro is a solid upgrade, and if you do not currently own a ps4, then the pro is pretty much future proofing, being the fact that 4k TVs nowadays are becoming more affordable (wait for Black Friday look for High Dynamic Range)
Automatically noticed that all ps4 games will be up scaled to the 4k resolution, and on games like BattleField 1 images are much more smoother, I can see infantry from longer distances, going to menus are much faster, compared to original ps4, but you would have to really be looking to find the difference, I feel that this is still alpha, beta style, where we are just getting all the kinks out for the software to match with the upgraded hardware, I would assume automatically that games like Andromeda, Final Fantasy 15, and Horizon Zero Dawn will support Native 4k.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psz9cecs5d.jpg
My personal PS4 Pro Review
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11-12-2016, 02:31 AMAkagi_ShigeruMy personal PS4 Pro Review
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11-12-2016, 02:32 AMAkagi_Shigeru
But those games are not out yet, so its a hit or miss if you want it now, the only detriment with the console is when it was released, saying it does not come with a 4k blue ray player, but you can argue that the decision was made because 4k blue ray hasn't really picked up over the last few years, mostly focusing on online media 4k, like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon (ps4 pro currently supports)
Other than the visuals there is no noticeable change from ps4, its still to me another ps4 but beefed up, again if you do not own a ps4, this is the one to get, if you already own one, part of me wants you to wait a bit, unless you already have or plan to get a 4k tv this holiday season, I say go for it, over time more and more games will support this infrastructure
This is the first 4k console to arrive, and to be honest overall, its a great product!
9 Ken Kutaragi's out of 10!!! -
11-12-2016, 02:38 AMAkagi_Shigeru
also on a side note, you playing FF14 on ps4 pro, will run more smoother, no more frame hickups, higher framerate, smoother image detail, the only thing that might slow you down is the type of internet connection you have.
This is my take on the ps4 pro... if I didnt have a 4k TV already, I wouldn't get it, but the notices are there, you can see the difference of quality, Defiantly
all that is left is for square enix to provide a official update for this game, like SE has for Deus Ex, FF15 and Tomb Raider,
Hoping for that official patch either comming out soon or when the new Expansion comes out!
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11-12-2016, 03:21 AMKosmos992k
When running *unpatched* games that on a launch PS4 make the fan spin like crazy and therefore is a bit noisy, how does the Pro handle those games? I'm guessing that since the game is only using half the GPU the system is quieter because there is a lot less heat to get rid of?
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11-12-2016, 04:14 AMAkagi_Shigeru
Kosmos... in the pro, again I've only played it for a day lol, but I had not noticed a fan noise... or noticeable noise, only when starting a disk, the initial spinning from the drive, other than that, no loud noise,
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psw18xnedo.jpg
when you look at this photo, shows you the huge heat-sink, and the bigger low noise fan, due to the fan design at this point the fan would be in a low state, heatsinks are about 30 percent bigger than original ps4, meaning less time for the fan to go on a medium or high mode due to processing -
11-12-2016, 05:49 AMKosmos992kBigger heat sink, looks like a fan similar to the original PS3 & PS4 ones. I can certainly notice it's got a huge set of heat pipes...nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akagi_Shigeru;3931811[IMG
I'll be waiting until I need a new PS4 for some reason, I'm not going to jump on the 4K bandwagon until 4K drops to the same cost as FullHD is now. Quite apart from anything else, I wear glasses, and so I expect that with the exception of optimal viewing conditions, I'm unlikely to experience much improvement in image quality due to resolution. FFXIV being patched for it would make me reconsider as long as SE doesn't just pimp out the game to 4K, but optimizes FullHD image quality and framerate as well. -
11-12-2016, 06:39 AMWoooBlaaa
How are the load times? I hate teleporting to Idyllshire. It's almost faster porting to Forelands and flying. Seriously when teleporting to a crowded place the load times are awful. If PS4 Pro doesn't address this issue I see no point in me personally upgrading.
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11-12-2016, 06:46 AMKosmos992kGet yourself an SSD or hybrid SSD/HDD. Even PS3 players with SSDs arrive in zones faster than a brand spanking new PS4.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoooBlaaa
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11-12-2016, 01:21 PMMixae
I was thinking of trading in mine maybe to get one?
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11-12-2016, 02:37 PMIz_LemonAbsolutely none of that is true unless square enix decide to patch the game to have pro support. When playing games without pro support/patches, half the GPU is disabled and the CPU underclocks itself to the speed of the original ps4. This is done to ensure maximum compatibility. Games without pro support do NOT benefit from being played on the pro in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akagi_Shigeru
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11-12-2016, 03:48 PMAneraplease don't give out misinformation. I also have PS4 PRO and playing FF14 on it frame rate still the same as old ps4 not smoother but loading time 5-7 sec faster then my old ps4 using SSHDQuote:
Originally Posted by Akagi_Shigeru
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11-12-2016, 10:49 PMaestevalYeah, a hybrid drive has been helping out a lot on my load times. The stock drive in the PS4 Pro is a joke (still SATA II 5,400 RPM - bigger than the regular PS4 HDD, but not really better.) The pro can take SATA III drives with max 9.5mm drive height.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosmos992k
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11-12-2016, 10:51 PMaestevalS-rank frame rate seems to be better on the pro. It may not be 100% cut and dry that a patch is required for any benefit, but this is a relatively small benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iz_Lemon
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11-12-2016, 11:16 PMaestevalAlso: in this case it may be more of getting past a limitation in the original hardware and not an enhancement itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by aesteval
Also noticed on the pro to record video at 1080p with 60 minute max time and take 4k screenshots. Not sure if those changes are pro unique or if regular saw some changes too. -
11-12-2016, 11:46 PMLirionRecording in 1080p and streaming in 1080p60fps (only on YT at the moment, twitch still 720) and taking 4K screenshots are Pro exclusive. Recording up to 60 min can be done on all PS4s, it came with the 4.0 update. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aesteval
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11-13-2016, 02:40 AMAkagi_Shigerudon't mean to mislead, again my personal experience
idk if people dont want to hear it? or they are pc players? but 400 dollar 4K machine is alot better than 2000 dollar 4k tower(and yes there are exemptions you can find online)and yes the resolution is still set to a 2160
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps3ocahcvg.jpg
you can certainly upgrade the hdd and spend another 100 dollars on a hybrid ssd/HDD or SSD drive and have at least 6 seconds of less load times
, and the new support for SATA 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2LkK5PIwUQ
im not trying to mislead anyone, and I have a feeling I need to make a youtube video to prove it lol the smoother screen is something I notice... also when leaving all effects on game does not bog down now like I said,... chances are they will send an update for 4k support on the new expansion (or before)... also the fact that SE is supporting 4k games on all their other AAA titles this holiday season -
11-13-2016, 03:33 AMFaiyez
No need to double-down. There are definite known facts about the Pro. The only way we'd be having improved Pro performance is for SE to have sneaked the support in a patch without anyone knowing.
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11-13-2016, 07:12 AMRobbieHHow's is static a fact means he's a PC player?Quote:
Originally Posted by Akagi_Shigeru
Sony said themselves games need to be patched for the Pro, hence why there were patches specifically for Pro release.
And no, a 2000 PC can run this game at 4k 60FPS (considering it's a 2000 PC made not long ago and has last gen GPU), the PS4 Pro is not playing at Native 4k, unless they patch it, what you see is upscaled 4k and 30FPS.
The Pro can't do 4k 60FPS, unless it's an Indie game or a not very demanding game, the pro was designed with 1080p 60FPS (on every game) in mind, 4k 30FPS is a bonus. -
11-13-2016, 08:53 AMJetstream_FoxNot even play in 4K, it's using an upscaling algorithm, ya it might hit 60fps at 1080p, but this console is still a rip off, it feels that the capabilities of the pro should have been day one out of the box standard. Rather a priced up upscaled version.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieH
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11-13-2016, 09:07 AMIz_LemonThere are some native 4k games on ps4 pro (Skyrim and the last of us currently).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox
As far as the upscaling algorithm, by most accounts it's a VERY good upscaling algorithm, and is still natively higher resolution than 1080p even it's not native 4k. -
11-13-2016, 09:15 AMRobbieHConsoles use Tweaked settings to begin with, then they can't do 60FPS at 4k even on Skyrim that's a 5 Year old game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iz_Lemon
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11-13-2016, 10:15 AMAneraI know you don't mean to mislead, I play this game on PC i7 4770k SSD 16GB GTX780 1080p frame rates in Idyllshire peak hour 43fps to 60fps and PS4 SSHD 20fps 30fps to & PS4 PRO non patch SSHD 20fps to 30fps. In the dungeons area PS4 & PS4 PRO fps from 40fps to 53fps. raid 8 to 24 man PS4 & PRO 40fps to 53fps ,in your room ps4 & PRO 60fps (PC in dungeons & 8 to 24 man raid 60fps) this is my estimateQuote:
Originally Posted by Akagi_Shigeru
now this an old video is from well known source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72M...ature=youtu.be -
11-13-2016, 12:06 PMKorenA
So all in all, if u don't have a 4K tv it's not worth upgrading IF you have already changed out your hard drive? lol
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11-13-2016, 12:51 PMJetstream_FoxFunny thing is Digital Foundry tested Last of Us and it actual ran worse as the remastered 1080p versionQuote:
Originally Posted by Iz_Lemon
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11-13-2016, 01:06 PMAnerayou don't need to have 4k to benefit PS4 PRO, having game run at full 1080p and higher frame rate if games company can patch it so worth it to upgrading just for better FPSQuote:
Originally Posted by KorenA
I'm play BF1 on PS4 PRO I get batter FPS then my old PS4
here from Digital Foundry BF1 Analysis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu705pp0mv0