Class Reboot? Did Yoshi P Started Classes Over From Scratch?

Yoshi P has been rebooting everything, so why not the classes too? I have a feeling that Yoshi P just Deleted and started the class development from scratch. I wouldnt be surprised.

I think if this was the case, it would be actually refreshing. Classes with 15 skills can be more role oriented, snd the skills can have a more pronounced effect.

Classes at this point seem rushed, and have too many different kind of skills.

for the mage direction i wouldnt be surprised if they have one magic group, like Blm/thm can only learn Black magic (Nuking), and Whm/Con has White Magic (healing). This direction would awesome for the mage classes, since more mages can be implemented into the game. (this wouldnt hinder mages since they can still equip many cross class skills)

So if Yoshi P Started classes from scratch and developed all new Skills, im all for it. :)

What do you guys think?

Just as long as new game mechanics aren't designed to thwart RMT. I feel like the main flaw with the original XIV was that everything was designed to stop RMT instead of being designed to be actually fun.

With that being said, I've come to put a lot of trust in Yoshi's game design thus far (except for the dying system which is being fixed). Even though everyone ragecakes about immersion or something every patch, in the long run all of his ideas thus far have been pretty solid. I am really excited to see the new revitalized, refined classes.

There will probably be days upon days of raging on the forums, but they'll simmer down and accept it soon enough :P

I would not mind if my character's slate was wiped clean. Granted I have many friends who would hate it. I dunno, I wouldn't mind experiencing 2.0 from the beginning. But I have all this neat Pugilist gear, so that would suck to lose.

It was stated that the fundamentals of each class will be kept. But even those are debated in the forums.

I wish they would just phase out classes entirely, if they insist on going with the classic Final Fantasy jobs. If it weren't for all the complications to the lore and story it would bring, I'm sure they would have already done so.

can't have enough "remade from scratch" in this game

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

I wish they would just phase out classes entirely, if they insist on going with the classic Final Fantasy jobs. If it weren't for all the complications to the lore and story it would bring, I'm sure they would have already done so.

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I'm on the fence with this and I'll withhold final judgment until I actually see how Jobs affect the use of classes. Just because they say classes will be optimal for lower manned groups doesn't mean that's how the players will use them.

If a Paladin does tanking better than a Gladiator...well...what else do you really use Gladiator for besides tanking? While I'm sure there are people who would like to throw on some cross class skills to form a makeshift DD, ultimately Paladin can replace Gladiator in tanking situations all around. Same with White Mage replacing Conjurer in any given healing role.

IF the above ends up being the case, sure, phase out classes and I'll be ok since I won't actually lose any levels. (Since 1 Class level = 1 Job level).

But IF the classes still remain useful even with the implementation of jobs, then by all means, keep them.

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Originally Posted by Engineer

Yoshi P has been rebooting everything, so why not the classes too? I have a feeling that Yoshi P just Deleted and started the class development from scratch. I wouldnt be surprised.

I think if this was the case, it would be actually refreshing. Classes with 15 skills can be more role oriented, snd the skills can have a more pronounced effect.

Classes at this point seem rushed, and have too many different kind of skills.

for the mage direction i wouldnt be surprised if they have one magic group, like Blm/thm can only learn Black magic (Nuking), and Whm/Con has White Magic (healing). This direction would awesome for the mage classes, since more mages can be implemented into the game. (this wouldnt hinder mages since they can still equip many cross class skills)

So if Yoshi P Started classes from scratch and developed all new Skills, im all for it. :)

What do you guys think?

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I d prefer to play and watch. It seem like rush atm, but that doesnt mean there wont be new skill at the future. Instead of woop wipe everything, SE can take a small step and fix the class system.

note: imo, w/e your point about class and job system it is to early to say anything about them before 1.21, because we basically dont know much about 1.20 and the skills at 1.21. So this thread is pointless

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

this thread is pointless

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That never fails ....lol

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

I wish they would just phase out classes entirely, if they insist on going with the classic Final Fantasy jobs. If it weren't for all the complications to the lore and story it would bring, I'm sure they would have already done so.

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I actually like the idea of having both. If there were only Jobs I think solo players would complain that they can't solo, and would have to be forced to play a job just to solo ala FFXI.

But also who's to say classes can't be in parties after jobs are introduced. I'm sure there are going to still be a damand for archers since Bard doesn't really have the same role as archer. If there are multiple archers in a PT one can be a bard and the other can stay as DD.

I'm sure players will find a way to solo with jobs.

Having both, means more variety and choice.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

I'm on the fence with this and I'll withhold final judgment until I actually see how Jobs affect the use of classes. Just because they say classes will be optimal for lower manned groups doesn't mean that's how the players will use them.

If a Paladin does tanking better than a Gladiator...well...what else do you really use Gladiator for besides tanking? While I'm sure there are people who would like to throw on some cross class skills to form a makeshift DD, ultimately Paladin can replace Gladiator in tanking situations all around. Same with White Mage replacing Conjurer in any given healing role.

IF the above ends up being the case, sure, phase out classes and I'll be ok since I won't actually lose any levels. (Since 1 Class level = 1 Job level).

But IF the classes still remain useful even with the implementation of jobs, then by all means, keep them.

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How about you can't enter to fight hard mode ifrit without jobs? or do dungeon that = 8 players? that mean even if PUG is better DD in the eyes of the players it does not matter and it should really be like that can't enter without a job.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

I d prefer to play and watch. It seem like rush atm, but that doesnt mean there wont be new skill at the future. Instead of woop wipe everything, SE can take a small step and fix the class system.

note: imo, w/e your point about class and job system it is to early to say anything about them before 1.21, because we basically dont know much about 1.20 and the skills at 1.21. So this thread is pointless

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The forums are about talking about anything that is about FFXIV even things that wont be added for over 1year so the thread is not pointless.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

How about you can't enter to fight hard mode ifrit without jobs? or do dungeon that = 8 players? that mean even if PUG is better DD in the eyes of the players it does not matter and it should really be like that can't enter without a job.

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hmm even tho it would be best for players to use jobs in these instances, i think it should be left up to the players and party leader on what they want in their party.

Cause what if we cant find another DD? and there is a Gladiator seeking? it would be pointless to have 2 paladins, we can invite the second Gladiator and have him equip all the DD skills while the other Gla can be the paladin.

Even if there is 2 Cons seeking, and we need a caster? one con can be a Whm, while other can equip Fire, Ice, and such..

I think it should be left open to keep versatility while making parties.

100% agree with you.

A little worried about combos though, really don't want massive XYZ popping up on screen etc, I think that kind of stuff should be left to sp games.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

The forums are about talking about anything that is about FFXIV even things that wont be added for over 1year so the thread is not pointless.

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From what I understand, the OP ask for new class skill along side with the upcoming 1.20 and 1.21. SE planning to fix those step by step as first they ll fix the class identity, and the current skill setup /class can use from other class at 1.20, with 1.21 there ll be new skill for job and later there for sure will have skill fix for class as well or skill replace so it fit with the new system. So my point is if SE have already plan fix them step by step instead of fix them all at once why bother to ask them to fix all at once ? it is better to see them fix step by step so it can show some ppl that they are actually working their ass on fix thing instead of give a huge update and encounter a lot of thread : Q.Q they dont fix crap, the game fail, bla bla bla

ninja edit: from my point of view , class fix = everything about class will be fix let it be name, skill or w/e , so I dont ask for more either ask any further

ninja edit 2: I am out of here as this is my last post. Either ppl dont read all the text I wrote or my engrish suck so much that ppl dont understand at all. Yes my language is engrish

Why don't they actually release the info we are seeking. It's long overdue

It is up, why no thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...764#post449764

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Why don't they actually release the info we are seeking. It's long overdue

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Literally two minutes before it was posted. XD

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Originally Posted by REDace0

Literally two minutes before it was posted. XD

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Lol I got that magic touch!

I have no clue what OP is talking about, it looks awesome.