Season 3 Feast changes

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11-01-2016, 03:19 PM
Praesul

Season 3 Feast changes

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d9b23aa25e13f6
"Matching algorithms have been adjusted to ensure players are matched with others of the same or an adjacent tier."

Thank you SE!
11-01-2016, 03:22 PM
Zensho

"Matching algorithms have been adjusted to ensure players are matched with others of the same or an adjacent tier."

Hot Damn, the squeaky wheel does get the grease after all! thanks to all the qq
11-01-2016, 04:58 PM
Araxes

Queue times will raise i guess^^ but a needed change
11-02-2016, 01:44 AM
Dimitrii

I'll wait to actually see if they did what they claim they are doing in season. This was really needed though. You compare the top 100s from season 1 and 2 and you can see such a drastic plunge in points and win rates in season 2 compared to season 1. And while it certainly can't all be contributed to matchmaking it did play a major role in it. On primal season 2's numbers 39 to 100 don't even crack the top 100 in season 1.
11-02-2016, 02:32 AM
Kai_Lee

What you saying? Players from 39-100 sucks and only with the mess up match making can they be in top 100? Not so sure about that?
11-02-2016, 02:46 AM
Praesul

The most disappointing thing is that there's still no rank decay though.
11-02-2016, 02:49 AM
Evilsyndicatemember

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Originally Posted by Praesul

The most disappointing thing is that there's still no rank decay though.

I think if they were to do the rating decay they should've definitely done it with this implement. As people can no longer claim (or claim less) that they're getting bad matchmaking.
11-02-2016, 03:00 AM
Dimitrii

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

What you saying? Players from 39-100 sucks and only with the mess up match making can they be in top 100? Not so sure about that?

While I do believe Season 1's overall top 100 was much stronger than season 2's (though I'll admit I have no quantifiable evidence of this beyond the points and win percentages from season 1's standings) my point wasn't that players 39 - 100 "suck." What I was trying to say was that the matchmaking algorithm from season 2 compared to season 1 made for an even more unpredictable ranking board and the ranking numbers fell off substantially compared to season 1. There were no diamonds in season 2 and season 2's point rankings ended up being much lower than season 1 (at least on primal).

Aside from a significant portion of the season 1s PVP population not returning to season 2 the other significant change between season 1 and 2 was that matchmaking algorithm which is why I feel it should shoulder some of the blame in why the standard to get into the top 100 dropped off so drastically. Once you got to Gold in season 1 while you could still seesaw in points you generally never really fell out of the tier (at least I didnt), but this is not so in season 2 because of the practical guarentee that you will have unranked players on your team the higher your point totals. At least in season 1 once you reached gold unranked players were barred from your lobbies disabling that excuse for any personal point turnover.
11-02-2016, 03:34 AM
Kai_Lee

To me the reason why season 2 didn't have as many players returning because at the start SE announced the reward was basically the same as season 1. I would not be surprised if season 4 is the same. Pairing with unrank / bronze as a higher rank means you really need to play as your peak to try to turn the match in your favor.
11-02-2016, 03:38 AM
FreeKingStefan

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

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Same thing on aether. Several average healers broke very high ranks because they kept getting the luck of the draw and queued into unranked healers on the enemy team each game. This typically happened during off hours so they didn't face much resistance in their climb
11-02-2016, 06:14 AM
Februs

I'll reserve judgement until I actually see it in practice ... but it seems good on paper.

Having a decreased point reduction for suffering a loss is definitely a good thing, although it would have been better if they had included "new players" as one of the factors contributing in how many points are actually lost.

Locking participants into actual Jobs, rather than classes, is definitely a good thing. That's just a no-brainer and should have been implemented in season 1, so it's about time.

Rank qualifying point adjustments is probably a nice change as well. It would be nice if it gives some of the best of the best the opportunity to actually work their way into Diamond rank, for a change, but we'll see how things go.

The only thing I'm really suspicious about is the matchmaking algorithms. In theory, it will hurt our queue times, but after Season 2 it's definitely necessary. The only question is if it actually works.
11-02-2016, 06:25 AM
Februs

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Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan

Same thing on aether. Several average healers broke very high ranks because they kept getting the luck of the draw and queued into unranked healers on the enemy team each game. This typically happened during off hours so they didn't face much resistance in their climb

I saw the exact same thing in the black week on Primal. There was one night, in particular, in which I was slotted against the same platinum healer for 4 or 5 consecutive matches, whereas the healer on my team was unranked. At the time, I didn't mind all that much because my season ended before 3.4, but if I'd still been in the running then I would have been livid with that matchmaking. I felt especially bad for the unranked healer, because the end results of each match made it pretty clear where the difference was across the two teams. I imagine that would have been fairly demoralizing.