FFXIV FOR THE NINTENDO SWITCH

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Is the Nintendo Switch more powerful than the PS4?

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looks like it running skyrim HD so i'm assuming it's just as powerful

I wouldn't mind being able to take the game on the go.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Is the Nintendo Switch more powerful than the PS4?

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This is the important question. After dropping PS3 SE wouldn't fallback and support a system that is weaker than PS4. However if Nintendo Switch is stronger or as powerful as the PS4 then it's possible.

Hopefully it's easy to port titles to this new system because Wii U was a disaster for third developers. I love Nintendo but this is the last chance I'm giving them to make a system on par with Microsoft & Sony.

Switch is 1 Nvidia teraflops, PS4 is 1.8 teraflops. It's weaker, it's a handheld. It also has less RAM, and it's MUCH slower.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Is the Nintendo Switch more powerful than the PS4?

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Based on the specs Nvidia gave (https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/1...ntendo-switch/ it seems like it's power is comparable to Xbox One. So FFXIV could run fine on it, but I don't know if it would have any limitations beyond anything graphical.

I will just say, off just glancing at it, FFXIV could be a possibility. It is more about if the Switch sells well, if the team can handle it's infrastructure, and if Nintendo will allow cross play.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

but I don't know if it would have any limitations beyond anything graphical.

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The big thing that would need to be looked at over graphics is how good the internet capabilities of the handheld are (naturally it will have them, but are they good enough to support an MMO?). We need to look at the switch as its minimum viable product, which is a handheld, and speculate whether or not it is a viable platform for the game. Then again... the trailer showed off handheld splatoon, so who knows.

Other than that, storage capabilities of a handheld are another big issue, with 4.0 coming out, who knows how big this game will be (probably 30GB+ and rising).

The console is sooooo small.

I don't think that will be more powerful than PS4.

I don't want another low-end console limiting the game. o.o

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Based on the specs Nvidia gave (https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/1...ntendo-switch/ it seems like it's power is comparable to Xbox One. So FFXIV could run fine on it, but I don't know if it would have any limitations beyond anything graphical.

I will just say, off just glancing at it, FFXIV could be a possibility. It is more about if the Switch sells well, if the team can handle it's infrastructure, and if Nintendo will allow cross play.

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After reading that blog, I did not have the impression it was comparable to xbox one. Where in there did you see that?

"Nintendo Switch Limitations"

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

After reading that blog, I did not have the impression it was comparable to xbox one. Where in there did you see that?

"Nintendo Switch Limitations"

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It is speculation based of other's findings, not my own. Everything looks like it was customized specifically for the Nintendo Switch. Plus I said comparable. It can be in the lesser or better range depending on how well people can push the hardware to it's limits.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

After reading that blog, I did not have the impression it was comparable to xbox one. Where in there did you see that?

"Nintendo Switch Limitations"

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It's a handheld, it can't match stationary console specs. For size, power consumption reasons alone, plus Tegra doesn't compare to PS4 level APUs. Portable RAM solutions also have huge bandwidth disadvantages compared to stationary counter parts.

Specs of the Nintendo Switch, it could run FFXIV but I'm sure no one wants to deal with "Nintendo Switch limitations" as we just rid of the PS3. Square Enix is a partner for the Switch so it's possible. It also runs on the ARM architecture so porting it over would be a huge effort, unlikely to be worth it.

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

It's a handheld, it can't match stationary console specs. For size, power consumption reasons alone, plus Tegra doesn't compare to PS4 level APUs.

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It depends if the docking station supports an additional function or processing power. My guess is it could do a game 1080p/60fps on the screen and on portable it goes to 720p/30-40fps. Purely speculation though.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

It is speculation based of other's findings, not my own. Everything looks like it was customized specifically for the Nintendo Switch. Plus I said comparable. It can be in the lesser or better range depending on how well people can push the hardware to it's limits.

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Oh, I see. Thanks for the reply. Yeah, from my understanding, Tegra processors are notoriously worse than GTX/Radeon graphics cards, and IIRC Xbox one uses a Radeon. That doesn't necessarily mean it's worse, but with the information available, I made that assumption.

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

It's a handheld, it can't match stationary console specs. For size, power consumption reasons alone, plus Tegra doesn't compare to PS4 level APUs. Portable RAM solutions also have huge bandwidth disadvantages compared to stationary counter parts.

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It's marketed as a home console that can switch to a handheld. That said, I agree with the rest of what you said.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Specs of the Nintendo Switch, it could run FFXIV but I'm sure no one wants to deal with "Nintendo Switch limitations" as we just rid of the PS3. Square Enix is a partner for the Switch so it's possible.

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Could be wrong, but those specs seem pretty bad. Don't they? Also, are those specs confirmed?

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Could be wrong, but those specs seem pretty bad. Don't they? Also, are those specs confirmed?

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They're pretty bad tbh, but I don't know why people expected PS4 performance out of a portable device. As for whether or not they confirmed, well I got them from a friend who got them off another friend from the Nintendo developer portal (requires an account)... can't say it's 100% legitimate, but I trust them both.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

They're pretty bad tbh, but I don't know why people expected PS4 performance out of a potable Nintendo device..

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FTFY xD

I think the thing is, this is marketed as a home console that you can take with you. It's more like the portable nature of it is secondary, rather than primary.

http://pastebin.com/UD1Vx9rf

According to Switch specs.

Capacity of 4 GB
Bandwidth: 25.6 GB/s


PS4 for comparison
Capacity 8 gigs of RAM
176 GB/s

PS4's RAM is SEVEN times faster. This thing is not even in the same league because it's a handheld.

The graphics chip is pretty weak if those are the actual specs. A GTX1050 (about ~$110card) has 600~700 cores@1354.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

FTFY xD

I think the thing is, this is marketed as a home console that you can take with you. It's more like the portable nature of it is secondary, rather than primary.

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It's secondary feature might be portable, but unless the dock houses an external GPU it had to be designed around the portable idea. I'd think of it more as a successor to the 3DS rather than a home console to compete with the PS4 or PS4 Pro.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

It's secondary feature might be portable, but unless the dock houses an external GPU it had to be designed around the portable idea. I'd think of it more as a successor to the 3DS rather than a home console to compete with the PS4 or PS4 Pro.

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True, I don't know (does anyone?) a lot of info about the Switch yet. I guess I figured the dock would add some more power to it in some fashion. Maybe it works like SLI? *shrug*

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

http://pastebin.com/UD1Vx9rf

According to Switch specs.

Capacity of 4 GB
Bandwidth: 25.6 GB/s


PS4 for comparison
Capacity 8 gigs of RAM
176 GB/s

PS4's RAM is SEVEN times faster. This thing is not even in the same league because it's a handheld.

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Its not more if it runs better or not. It is more about if Nintendo's design allows 3rd party to easily work on it. One of Wii U's faults was it's infrastructure was so arbitrary and hard to program that developers did not want to touch it. Nintendo said they built this in the mind that 3rd party can easily develop on it. They can release a PS4 like title, but it may need to be lower in spec to meet the requirements, but it still has the capability to play PS4/X1 games fine.

Both Dragon Quest XI and the new Sonic 2017 game confirmations help show this.

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Originally Posted by neorei

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looks like it running skyrim HD so i'm assuming it's just as powerful

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that's just an HD to a older game. doesn't mean its just as powerful. which it most likely isn't

Hope they don't support it with XIV. I want the limitations being omitted not compounded. The USA is finally starting to get affordable fast internet. Hopefully with PS3 unsupported this game start getting more aggressive in pushing out dope content. Assuming SE keeps updating their server tech as well.

I don't really like GCD. But if it is going to stay here, I would like to see it get faster with resources being the determiner of controlling skill spam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQPVoVaPOQU

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Hope they don't support it with XIV. I want the limitations being omitted not compounded. The USA is finally starting to get affordable fast internet. Hopefully with PS3 unsupported this game start getting more aggressive in pushing out dope content. Assuming SE keeps updating their server tech as well.

I don't really like GCD. But if it is going to stay here, I would like to see it get faster with resources being the determiner of controlling skill spam.

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I don't see FFXIV being on the NS, but I am always opened to being surprised. They did confirm DQ10: Online for the NS in Japan a while ago. We all should push SE into bringing that game here in some form.

Let's just say...IF...if FFXIV somehow manages to get ported to this...would anyone use it just for crafting and gathering classes?

I wouldn't pick this console up just to play FFXIV on it, but if I had it already I'd sure as heck use it to grind out some non-combat stuff on the go.

Don't even think about it Producer-san!...

Nintendo has always had the cheapest and weakest consoles in the market, comparatively, we don't want another PS3-like limiter so forget about it!... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Don't even think about it Producer-san!...

Nintendo has always had the cheapest and weakest consoles in the market, comparatively, we don't want another PS3-like limiter so forget about it!... :rolleyes:

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Actually they have had the superior console graphically up until the Wii. N64's disadvantage was using cartridges and while the GC was more powerful, the PS2 was already established and had a DVD player.

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Originally Posted by ShirKirakira

Let's just say...IF...if FFXIV somehow manages to get ported to this...would anyone use it just for crafting and gathering classes?

I wouldn't pick this console up just to play FFXIV on it, but if I had it already I'd sure as heck use it to grind out some non-combat stuff on the go.

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That's not a bad idea. XIV also has the added fun of HUD and config files being stored locally. It's not a big issue, but it is a problem when you want to transfer personalization to / from console. I mainly play on PS4 and all of my customization for battle is done there. I also have XIV on my laptop, but conpletely redoing my interface and everything is a serious task, but some minor gameplay functionality (gathering, gardening) will work just fine without reconfiguring everything.

Only if it's not going to be the new low. I'd like our game to be pushed to the fullest PS4 capabilities.

the handheld using Nvidia Tegra processor and the base ueing unknow for now
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/1...ntendo-switch/

It's basically a portable ps3 so, hope the don't support it.

There's no way FFXIV is coming to a platform like Switch, if anything they are beefing up the minimum system reqs for the next expansion so something like this is very unlikely.

I won't even go into the potential issues of the underwhelming Nintendo Network with all its limitations.

At best this will be a glorified pokemon console, if they don't RIP the 3DS then it will fail even at that.

Im sorry Nintendo but i don't really see the point of making a console like this, they could just as well make an iPad peripheral and release games for the ios and call it a day.

how would you even be able to see bosses on that tiny screen...

I'd rather see it remain for the PS4 and PC only. Think about it - the more consoles/handheld devices FFXIV operates on the longer development will take to get everything ready for content patches.

it doesn't even have HDD

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Originally Posted by alimdia

It's basically a portable ps3 so, hope the don't support it.

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most of the trouble of the ps3 was tie to the ram inside the console 256MO rams, where the switch it's a 4GB. then who know.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Is the Nintendo Switch more powerful than the PS4?

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A better question is whether it's more powerful than nVidia Shield...