Final Fantasy X's Monster Arena for Final Fantasy XIV

I think Final Fantasy X's Monster Arena was an awesome system that could be added to Final Fantasy XIV to bringing a wide range of possibilities:

- FFXIV players could enjoy exploring every single corner of Eorzea, using monster-capturing weapons for capturing monsters solo or with friends (the hardest ones). Collect-them-all!
- Lot of rewards based on captured monsters!
- Players capable of fight captured monsters for gil!
- Unlock NMs and HNMs only available through Monster Arena!
- Fight one or more monsters in a row for rewards (experience points/regular drops)!
- And much more!

Your name is Riku, hmmm

I honestly wouldn't mind something like this in XIV at all =3

Oh yeah! Bring it on, I welcome something like this.
Anyone played Pankration in FFXI? I hope they make it 100 times better in FFXIV

why we at it can we get blitz ball?

This was really cool when they added it to FFXI! The first monster I captured ones one of those red dragons from the Aht'urgan expansion (Dahak!). It was fun watching other monsters battle, too.... However, the excitement died after a few weeks and the zone became barren because everyone grew terribly bored with it. Almost nobody uses it in FFXI anymore.

Maybe if they added better rewards it would be more popular.

FFXIV 2.0 should just be renamed Final Fantasy: I-II-III-IV-V-VI-VII-VIII-IX-X-XI-XII-XIII-XIV.

Let's just not be original anymore.

Yay pokemon! Seriously it would be fun, I support it.

im a big fan of this idea sign me up ^^

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

FFXIV 2.0 should just be renamed Final Fantasy: I-II-III-IV-V-VI-VII-VIII-IX-X-XI-XII-XIII-XIV.

Let's just not be original anymore.

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Its called re-inventing. They can use a similar idea like the Monster Arena and make it better.

Just because something has been done once succesfully, doesn't mean it should never be repeated ever again.

I never did the monster arena thing. ;-;

Guys he's not saying "port Pankration over", he's saying "do something like the FFX monster arena".

Which... I actually think would be really cool. <_< I'd watch people show off fighting huge ass monsters! I think there's a lot of potential for something like this in a system where you can see other people's rankings and- just the concept of an openly accessible monster arena in an MMO is actually pretty exciting to me. (Honestly, it interests me a lot more than a PvP coliseum!)

Pankration is not the same as Monster Arena.

Pankration is Mob vs Mob
Monster arena is You/PT vs Mob

You do collect mobs however, you have to kill them with a specific weapon though (or specific attachment i cant remember).

I really like the idea and think it would be good.

I would certainly want Blitzball, It's awesome, so why not? It could even be connected to Limsa as a New Sport from the Eastern country?

On the topic, I think that Monster Arena is cool. It would give players something to do/work on more than just grinding, crafting, End-game, etc.

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Originally Posted by viion

Pankration is not the same as Monster Arena.

Pankration is Mob vs Mob
Monster arena is You/PT vs Mob

You do collect mobs however, you have to kill them with a specific weapon though (or specific attachment i cant remember).

I really like the idea and think it would be good.

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Capture Rate + materia incoming!

I'm glad that you like this too. I also think there is a lot of potential on Monster Arena for FFXIV. Let's hope devs likes this too!

Actually I think it fits perfectly in FFXIV, everyone could get profit from this, solo and party. Players capturing monsters over Eorzea by defeating them with speacial weapons would make all areas and places useful.

Capture 10 of each monster from a single family and unlock a unique NM with unique drops!
Defeat unlocked NMs and unlock higger tier NMs.
Capture 10 of each monster of all monsters and unlock HNMs!

You know what I mean... lot of potential on this!

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

FFXIV 2.0 should just be renamed Final Fantasy: I-II-III-IV-V-VI-VII-VIII-IX-X-XI-XII-XIII-XIV.

Let's just not be original anymore.

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final fantasy has always recycled ideas from the series, final fantasy 9, was almost a remake of final fantasy 4, they used that much from the game. but there was enough different about 9 that it was original and great

the idea of monster catching "yes please!"

"Its called re-inventing." That's all the Japanese do.

This would be awesome to have!

My kind of idea for this:

First menu:

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1. Low-level NMs (L25+)
2. Mid-level NMs (L35+)
3. High-level NMs (L45+)

[ ] Gauntlet Mode (no time limit) <--- Checkbox

(Cancel) (Next)
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Second menu:

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[List of NMs]


(Back) (Next)
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Third menu:

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• Easy (15 minutes)
• Medium (30 minutes)
• Hard (60 minutes)

(Back) (Start)
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The NM Arena will accept every kind of party, from 1 to 8 members.

Low-, Mid- and High-level NMs will be all the NMs in the world, like Pyrausta, Nest Commander, Kokoroon Quickfingers, Dodore, Great Buffalo,...
Once you select one group of monsters, you can select a max of 3 NMs to fight at the same time. Then it's time to select the difficulty.

Difficulty depends on which moves they do, their health, defense, attack,... Obviously, more the difficulty, more the reward!

Firstly talking about this mode, once you Start, you'll have to survive an onslaught of monsters of about 4 rounds. In Easy and Medium difficulty, each round will have a 15 seconds pause. Then when you've killed every monster, in the fifth round you will fight the NM. At the end of the fight you'll move to the next NM fight with the timer resetted, rinse and repeat.
The final reward will also depend on the time you take to finish the fights, summing the used/elapsed time from each fight.

About the Gauntlet mode! It's kind of a Survival mode, where there's no time limit and your reward will depend solely on how many NMs you can kill. You can't choose the NMs to fight, because you'll fight them all until you fall down!
The fight will begin with the first NM, then there'll be a timer for the next NM to appear. Regardless of if you killed the NM you're fighting or not, the next NM is gonna spawn if the timer goes to 0!
To make things even more exciting, the timer will decrease each 3 NMs fights. The timer will also depend on which NMs you're fighting, if Low, Mid or High-level ones (for example, for low NMs it'll be around 5 minutes and each 3 NMs the timer will decrease of 30 seconds)

Reward will be randomly Gils or Seals, and as items could be any kind of potions, foods, materials, weapons, armors,...

There you go! Ideas? Pros? Cons? F*ck you Renshi?

See ya!

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Originally Posted by Renshi

This would be awesome to have!

My kind of idea for this:

First menu:

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1. Low-level NMs (L25+)
2. Mid-level NMs (L35+)
3. High-level NMs (L45+)

[ ] Gauntlet Mode (no time limit) <--- Checkbox

(Cancel) (Next)
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Second menu:

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[List of NMs]


(Back) (Next)
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Third menu:

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• Easy (15 minutes)
• Medium (30 minutes)
• Hard (60 minutes)

(Back) (Start)
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The NM Arena will accept every kind of party, from 1 to 8 members.

Low-, Mid- and High-level NMs will be all the NMs in the world, like Pyrausta, Nest Commander, Kokoroon Quickfingers, Dodore, Great Buffalo,...
Once you select one group of monsters, you can select a max of 3 NMs to fight at the same time. Then it's time to select the difficulty.

Difficulty depends on which moves they do, their health, defense, attack,... Obviously, more the difficulty, more the reward!

Firstly talking about this mode, once you Start, you'll have to survive an onslaught of monsters of about 4 rounds. In Easy and Medium difficulty, each round will have a 15 seconds pause. Then when you've killed every monster, in the fifth round you will fight the NM. At the end of the fight you'll move to the next NM fight with the timer resetted, rinse and repeat.
The final reward will also depend on the time you take to finish the fights, summing the used/elapsed time from each fight.

About the Gauntlet mode! It's kind of a Survival mode, where there's no time limit and your reward will depend solely on how many NMs you can kill. You can't choose the NMs to fight, because you'll fight them all until you fall down!
The fight will begin with the first NM, then there'll be a timer for the next NM to appear. Regardless of if you killed the NM you're fighting or not, the next NM is gonna spawn if the timer goes to 0!
To make things even more exciting, the timer will decrease each 3 NMs fights. The timer will also depend on which NMs you're fighting, if Low, Mid or High-level ones (for example, for low NMs it'll be around 5 minutes and each 3 NMs the timer will decrease of 30 seconds)

Reward will be randomly Gils or Seals, and as items could be any kind of potions, foods, materials, weapons, armors,...

There you go! Ideas? Pros? Cons? F*ck you Renshi?

See ya!

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first I d like the "Gauntlet mode" will not be a check box because I think it is wrong for a survival mode to have lvl limit, imo it is bette when you dont know what kind/lvl of NM will spawn instead of you always know their lvl range.

second the last option 45+ I d like it to be 50+, in this case the 50s dont have to right with 47 mobs, but the NM at the end game will be 55+

the CON I see in this idea is:

there is no lvl limit, I dont want any lvl 50 to sign up for 25+ to solo NM and farm reward, even when the reward is only gil.

I am against the idea with rare wep and armor for this as I dont want the idea to become a item farm fest, but instead there should be at gil, seal and list of the best time or damage total, or total kill for example so ppl can have some competion, that ll be a better idea and suit for Arena imo.

and here is the question:

the concept about NM, will it be arena exclusive NM or the NM around the world ?

While we're at it add in transforming summons. (I liked them btw >_>)

Great idea OP!

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

first I d like the "Gauntlet mode" will not be a check box because I think it is wrong for a survival mode to have lvl limit, imo it is bette when you dont know what kind/lvl of NM will spawn instead of you always know their lvl range. I see your point. The fact is that maybe a full party of L30 people who want to do a Monster Arena in Gauntlet mode might encounter Dodore and have their virgin eyes cut by half (I didn't use the word ass because it would've been too offensive.)

second the last option 45+ I d like it to be 50+, in this case the 50s dont have to right with 47 mobs, but the NM at the end game will be 55+ Of course there's not a limit on that, bring up as many difficulty levels as you can!

the CON I see in this idea is:

there is no lvl limit, I dont want any lvl 50 to sign up for 25+ to solo NM and farm reward, even when the reward is only gil.
Hmm... kinda don't get it. If you don't want level limit but don't want L50 people doing L25+ fights, then how can we solve this?
How about placing a minimum and a maximum level? Like L20-30 for Low, L30-40 for Medium and L40-50 for High-level NMs.

I am against the idea with rare wep and armor for this as I dont want the idea to become a item farm fest, but instead there should be at gil, seal and list of the best time or damage total, or total kill for example so ppl can have some competion, that ll be a better idea and suit for Arena imo.
That's one thing I'm against too. There must not be any rare/epics, but armors and weapons that can be crafted (like a Cobalt Longsword, a Round Shield, a Leather Jacket,...). Also supporting the idea of reviewing the statistics for better rewards.

and here is the question:

the concept about NM, will it be arena exclusive NM or the NM around the world ?

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I say, take the NMs around the world. It might be a chance to know better some free-roaming NMs for when you want to fight them in their places.
The thing about this is that you can fight the NMs in the arena, but you don't receive their loot, so you don't have any chance to drop any rare weapon/armor. You still have to hunt them in their places to get those.

Maybe have monster cross breeding to fight against a hybrid super monster.

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Originally Posted by Ilethius

Maybe have monster cross breeding to fight against a hybrid super monster.

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I'm wondering what a Chimera cross-breed would look like >.>

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there is no lvl limit, I dont want any lvl 50 to sign up for 25+ to solo NM and farm reward, even when the reward is only gil.
Hmm... kinda don't get it. If you don't want level limit but don't want L50 people doing L25+ fights, then how can we solve this?
How about placing a minimum and a maximum level? Like L20-30 for Low, L30-40 for Medium and L40-50 for High-level NMs.

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that is what I mean, I could had wrote min and max, didn't think about that

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I say, take the NMs around the world. It might be a chance to know better some free-roaming NMs for when you want to fight them in their places.
The thing about this is that you can fight the NMs in the arena, but you don't receive their loot, so you don't have any chance to drop any rare weapon/armor. You still have to hunt them in their places to get those.

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I am afraid that I am against the capture NM around the world. I know that the NM around the world are similar look to the mobs around with different stats and ability but I do not wish to ruin their unique, the same reason I am against primal mount or pet. So I suggest the Arena need to have different NM with arena exclusive skill and stats

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

that is what I mean, I could had wrote min and max, didn't think about that




I am afraid that I am against the capture NM around the world. I know that the NM around the world are similar look to the mobs around with different stats and ability but I do not wish to ruin their unique, the same reason I am against primal mount or pet. So I suggest the Arena need to have different NM with arena exclusive skill and stats

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I see your point.
What about a mix of the two? Obviously, not a random selection of the roaming NMs, but just the highlighted and iconic ones, like Kokoroon Quickfingers, Bomb Baron and Cactuar Jack, then the Arena will have Big Fat Vegan (Goobbue), Tentahen (Malboro, see what I did there? =D), Crahout (Apkallu), and so many of them.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I see your point.
What about a mix of the two? Obviously, not a random selection of the roaming NMs, but just the highlighted and iconic ones, like Kokoroon Quickfingers, Bomb Baron and Cactuar Jack, then the Arena will have Big Fat Vegan (Goobbue), Tentahen (Malboro, see what I did there? =D), Crahout (Apkallu), and so many of them.

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Technical I do not want or wish to see a mob in arena with name like Kokoroon Quickfingers and those like that in arena, because I believe the NMs in FFXIV is 1 and only just like the primal, so as long those are untouched, I am will not have anything against

Yeah, but they surely have to have something cool looking, or else it's like fighting some monster.

Here comes the boss! Goobbue.

whoo.

Here comes the boss! Dundlepants.

KILL DUNDLEPANTS!

In my POV it looks better to have a monster with a different name as a "boss" or an NM as the last fight. You're right though. It's not that Kokoroon Quickfingers has many brothers called like that. What could be good are notorious monsters which are multiple. So if I take a Dundlepants, there might be other Goobbue called Dundlepants which can be sent into the arena.

Hope I catched that =)

This could be a fun idea, also yes to blitzball and LL could be a decent place to have it, I already have the background lore :)

The Grand companies or Eorzea managed to infitrate Garlemald, and found some blueprints for what looked like a huge bomb, so they took them and all information they could find, upon closer inspection it was found that the blueprints were actually for a huge sphere full of water, and enclosed were the rules of Blitzball.

I know actually kinda lame, but its a start to what they could do, because Garlemald is the most technical city it could work kinda well and tie into the current lore, and a sphere-pool could look a lil like a bomb the garleans would use to destroy us, because the almighty uldah is proving too tough for the garleans :)

I think a Monster Arena is an awesome idea. Whenever someone goes in to fight the stuff they've caught or the stuff that the handlers have bred for them (the NMs) it would create an instance that others could enter and watch from the sidelines. Implement a betting system for the spectators and I could see this being a huge success.

However, I don't like the idea of catching open-world NMs or anything like that. I would prefer if the NMs in the arena were unique to the arena. Not like it would be hard to make up some more NM names and reskin some mobs or whatever.

I'm also against Blitzball in XIV. I never enjoyed it much in FFX, and I don't think it fits in very well with the game world. Of course, we haven't seen exactly how, say, the Garlean capital looks as far as sci-fi and tech goes, so it might be possible that it could exist there. Still, Blitzball is kind of a FFX-exclusive thing in my eyes.

In Final Fantasy X Bosses were unable to be captured, so it has no sense NMs could be captured in FFXIV, at least all them.

Its not about "capture them" ... its only a gameplay-style-like competition when you already defeated those bosses. i mean it could be represented as a dream, a nightmare.

In AION you have such kind of Arena... where you fight in rounds(stages) and competing against one boss after an other. and the appearance of the arena changes as well appropiate to the boss' appearance. its hard to reach the 10th stage. its something for the hardcore players, who reached everything:

(at 2:50)



But i think its too early for that for FFXIV. thats something for the 3. or 4. addon ;D