Dont Lock Emotes To Extremely Exensive Merchandise

I am so annoyed that the Odin emote is locked to buying a figure that's over 100$ I understand minions, and furniture coming with merchandise, but they weren't over 100$ They were like 50$ There is no way most people can afford this.

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It's not so much the price that bothers me it's whether or not it'll be obtainable in the future. If they keep it available consistently then at least people can save up for it over time. If it's available for purchase only for a brief period of time, however, than that makes it much more dubious.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

There is no way most people can afford this.

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Get a job like a normal adult?

Don't lock emotes/pets behind items you're not willing to sell to players in countries you service either.

cough Australia cough

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Originally Posted by Kaisinel

Get a job like a normal adult?

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I have one, and there are bills to pay. Do you pay for gas, electricity, rent, and water? I can barely afford my subscription. Most Americans are struggling right now.

a $100 emote will never be worth it.. should be buying the statue for the statue and then emote is an in-game bonus. How often would you use the emote really? its to give a little bonus in game to people who buy the statue to show their support outside of game

And those people will flaunt it for status.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I have one, and there are bills to pay. Do you pay for gas, electricity, rent, and water? I can barely afford my subscription. Most Americans are struggling right now.

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Yes I pay utility bills, cell phone, mortgage etc. I also give up things in life to save for things I want. Instead of buying whatever brand new cell phone comes out once a year I can save my $700 to spend on other luxuries tho. It's give and take if people want the statue badly enough they will find a way.

You aren't purchasing the emote remember it's an added bonus for purchasing a highly detailed statue.

Entitlement: The Thread.

wait a min....isnt this the guy who started the "do players complain too much" thread post couple days ago lol

someones jelly after seeing the new emote ohoho "I want it I want it I want it noww >:[" oh balmung

Whales, some people will toss money at anything, has the cash shop being there not givin you any indication that people will throw money at anything? luckly for me i don't give 2 craps about that emote so i am fine with not wasting 100 bucks for a emote you'll likely forget about after a day or 2 of spamming it.

People that desire such an item will find the means to obtain it, as is the basics of supply and demand.

The additional bonuses of merch should never be used as part of the selling point, since they're just extra bits for fun as a way of thanking the players for their above and beyond support of the game. One such as myself, who has bought the art book, did not buy it for the Airship Cid minion, but rather for the unique content within. It will be the same when I possibly purchase the lore book on Monday, since I want a piece of the game forever outside of the game, so to speak.

All the vanity in this game should never be a major factor in how one enjoy's the game itself, since the /mandervilledance of today may be the go the way of Pokemon GO, and not be so popular at a later point in time. Also, an exercise in learning to make the best with what one has is always needed, since there will almost always be players with access to something beyond the grasp of another player, for that is life. Some people want a house in Eorzea, while other people wouldn't mind an attack helicopter to play paintball, despite it being one of the biggest money sinks of all time in that fictional scenario.

tl;dr = Be happy with what one has, play the game for the fun of the game

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

Whales, some people will toss money at anything, has the cash shop being there not givin you any indication that people will throw money at anything? luckly for me i don't give 2 craps about that emote so i am fine with not wasting 100 bucks for a emote you'll likely forget about after a day or 2 of spamming it.

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I think the term "Collector" is a bit more appropriate, since the individual is buying a statue with the bonus of an ingame emote, not an ingame emote with the bonus of a statue.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I think the term "Collector" is a bit more appropriate, since the individual is buying a statue with the bonus of an ingame emote, not an ingame emote with the bonus of a statue.

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lol, collector is fine, an old freind of mine is a game collector and his home was stacked with ancient games wall to wall.. so i know how they think, my post was directed towards people ONLY being for the emote, like toss or basement the figurine but pay that much for an emote.

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

wait a min....isnt this the guy who started the "do players complain too much" thread post couple days ago lol

someones jelly after seeing the new emote ohoho "I want it I want it I want it noww >:[" oh balmung

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Oh the irony :^)

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Originally Posted by Kaisinel

Get a job like a normal adult?

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I almost forgot how childish this community can be, thanks for remind me.

You probably still live with parents so you can spend your income on in-game items, and then you come talk about getting a job, funny.

If you barely can afford the sub, you shouldnt Even think about buying things like emote or mog station items.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

Entitle-

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Don't lock emotes/pets behind items you're not willing to sell to players in countries your service either.

cough Australia cough

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I don't think yoshida know that we'r exist down here or SEE

All I'm saying is that everyone should have a fair shot at all content. In game, yes, but difficulty is okay. I am so sick of this cash shop, and mog station logic. This isn't entitlement. Don't even say you warned me about mog station. I wasn't even playing when the fan base was begging for cash shop stuff.

Your paying $100 for The Statue the emote is just a bonus. It's not locked behind the statue because your not ment to buy it just for the emote.

Like others have said, buy the statue for the statue, the emote is just a bonus. For when the time comes that FFXIV closes its doors for good you still have the statue that you wanted to buy, but not the emote you wanted to buy and now is gone forever.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

All I'm saying is that everyone should have a fair shot at all content. In game, yes, but difficulty is okay. I am so sick of this cash shop, and mog station logic. This isn't entitlement. Don't even say you warned me about mog station. I wasn't even playing when the fan base was begging for cash shop stuff.

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The cash shop isn't going anywhere, regardless of who likes it or not, SE would be insane to get rid of it when people are giving them money for easily forgettable content. Thankfully it's only kept to cosmetics. i don't like content behind paywalls either but i don't really care either, let the whales waste their money, if something is out of your reach, then so be it. Just move on, crying isn't going to change how they do it.

But as it's been pointed out, the statue is the reason for the cost, it's a collectors item.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I am so annoyed that the Odin emote is locked to buying a figure that's over 100$ I understand minions, and furniture coming with merchandise, but they weren't over 100$ They were like 50$ There is no way most people can afford this.

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This is the same guy that started that "why do we complain so much" thread...

The emote is locked behind the statue, which is the reason most people will be having it in the first place.

If you want the emote/statue, then you save up the money to buy it. If you can't afford it/can't justify the price, then you live without it.

That's how being a functional adult works. If you barely have the money to pay your subscription, then you have more important things to worry about that a friggin' in-game emote.

If there's a demand for the emote itself, a normal person might even sell it separately to players like the OP when they receive the statue to recoup some of the cost~

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

This isn't entitlement.

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you expect to be able to get this emote for less than what it costs, because you feel entitled to it. that is what entitlement means. this is LITERALLY textbook entitlement

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Like others have said, buy the statue for the statue, the emote is just a bonus. For when the time comes that FFXIV closes its doors for good you still have the statue that you wanted to buy, but not the emote you wanted to buy and now is gone forever.

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The emote is an incentive to buy the Statue actually, if they didn't add the Emote to it, then it wouldn't sell at all.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

The emote is an incentive to buy the Statue actually, if they didn't add the Emote to it, then it wouldn't sell at all.

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I would still want the statue alone since Odin is my favourite primal. But I don't feel like spending that much on a statue, even with the included bonus emote as I am currently saving up for something else I want even more.

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Originally Posted by Anera

I don't think yoshida know that we'r exist down here or SEE

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I figure we're too small of a userbase to be worth it, but if Blizzard managed to release a Warcraft cookbook in retail stores down here I don't see why SE can't do it for major items. At the very least, a digital version of the lore book would be nice.

You are not paying 140 Dollars for the Emote. You are paying 140 Dollars for the statue. Get that in your mind.

It's absolutely hilarious considering the 'terms' being thrown around. The issue the OP is bringing up is simply about not locking ingame content to items that cost ridiculous amounts of money. The implication that the emote is simply a bonus is not true. You buy both items at the same time, both emote and Odin Figurine making up the cost of the products you paid for, virtual or not. It cost resources to animate and create that emote, and it shouldn't be surprising that they would've adjusted the price of the odin figurine to accommodate that. Furthermore, it also has a knock-on effect by linking both crowds of people (collectors and people who like ingame content) towards the same item. Thus immediately placing this in cash shop territory, whether SE intended to or not.

It's a bit unsettling to me that some players are encouraging or at the very least accepting the notion that 'cash shop' ingame content should cost this much money, while also paying a subscription fee. There are some people who love ingame items, but have no interest in the Odin figurine. If they wish to buy the ingame emote, it forces them to pay a ridiculous sum of money for a product they want that, when bought separately, should cost much less. The Odin figurine should've been standalone, and without any connection with ingame content. By doing this, that separates the 2 bands of people who prioritise different items over each other, and if a person loves both items equally, then he or she is able to buy both of them separately.
SE has consistently done this in the past for items such as CDs, books and plush toys. But they've ever expanded the library, and it has gotten out of hand to the point where the ingame content is locked behind £111 - one of their most expensive items yet. Even the Heavensward collectors edition allowed the ability to buy the ingame items separately. We should be discouraging this practice, not accepting it.

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Originally Posted by Friske

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I don't know about you, but if I made an item that is as detailed and intricate as the Odin statue, I would probably price it as high as it is. The resources that went into creating the emote is probably much less than the cost of creating the statue. If you noticed from last fanfest, they make 3D sculpts in a 3D engine, then they 'print' it, and go over it multiple times until they are happy with the final version. Now that's a lot of time, resources and finesse to make a statue that will be mass manufactured then sold. Square Enix is primarily a business, and will look into whatever way they can get money. And no, this does not fall into cash shop territory, because that would mean we had the ability to purchase the emote separate from the statue, no? Essentially, the items are a bonus, not a product sold ALONGSIDE the item. If that were the case, we'd be paying more than $140 I think.

Considering a lot of the merchandise they put out keeps selling out in a day I doubt they are going to change their policies anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

I figure we're too small of a userbase to be worth it, but if Blizzard managed to release a Warcraft cookbook in retail stores down here I don't see why SE can't do it for major items. At the very least, a digital version of the lore book would be nice.

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I'd honestly be fine with that. It's something.

Though I'd also like the physical book...

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Originally Posted by ErryK

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Sorry if I wasn't too clear, but yes, I do agree that the cost of the Odin figurine contributed largely to the price of the product, and I have little issue with how high they've priced it. My main concern however was not the price of Odin figurine itself, but what the OP was actually talking about - which was tying ingame content to an item that costs a large amount of money.
I'm sure I'm not the only person who holds this opinion, but if any ingame content is labelled with a price tag (outside of your subscription fee) then I think it's considered a cash shop item. It's no different to linking that item to a figurine, a plush toy or a CD. If what you buy comes with an ingame item, then you are technically paying money for both Odin figurine and the ingame Odin emote, especially considering that the odin emote was almost tailor made to go along with the Odin figurine. Even if you don't intend to buy the figurine for the emote, you can't deny that what you paid for was a bundle which consisted of both the odin figurine and the emote. SE has a very large track record with tying ingame items to tangible objects, they're no stranger to this.

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Originally Posted by Bilal

You are not paying 140 Dollars for the Emote. You are paying 140 Dollars for the statue. Get that in your mind.

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If the in-game item isn't available without the physical item, there's no real distinction between the two. Sure, you're getting both at the same time, but there is no lower price point without going third-party - saying 'you're not paying $140 for the emote' is demonstrably untrue.

I feel like the statue is worth its price, and that the emote should also come with the Sleiphnir mount as well. At least that is a reasonable option for the common player.

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Originally Posted by Bilal

You are not paying 140 Dollars for the Emote. You are paying 140 Dollars for the statue. Get that in your mind.

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I"ll add to that. The statue is a statue, SE is just also adding a bonus to that statue you are getting. The bonus is designed around the physical piece, if this were a case of what came first the chicken or the egg, the physical product would be the egg and the chicken, the bonus content for in-game.

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Originally Posted by Raim

I feel like the statue is worth its price, and that the emote should also come with the Sleiphnir mount as well. At least that is a reasonable option for the common player.

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That would have been a great bundle. Statue, emote and mount (It's $200 for the statue in AUD)
I hope the detailing in the statue is quite nice for those who are going to buy it, it looks intricate in the stock images.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

Entitlement: The Thread.

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reality loss, the incarnation.

people really forget that this is a sub mmo and just buy into everything by now. it's disgusting.