So, I am forced to buy ALL new gear AGAIN?

Well, I am glad to see that the fashion police won their war, and I actually will enjoy wearing the colors I want, but...

Does this mean the set I bought that was fire engine red to have better stats will now be just ugly ass red? All of the other gear I had died for stats will also be just ugly?

Take this times archer, pug, thm, con, mrd all of which I have geared out at level 50 and I am going to busy buying and crafting all of my gear again two patches in a row.

The first time they ruined all my gear I was fine with it because the new stuff was better. Now it looks like it will be ruined and I will have to spend millions to just get the stuff I had back.

I assume from the chart once gear is dyed you can't add stats to it. Pleases SE... leave the items we have with the same stats and colors.... I will be pissed if my red stuff is now just ugly red with base stats.

If I misunderstand then someone correct me, and yes I think this deserves its own thread...

i think your equipment keeps its stat, but you cannot dye it again....so if you would like a different color you'd have to get a new set

The gear you are currently wearing will still function the same.

Nobody is forcing you to change anything at the end of the day, if you don't like ugly ass red then you need to make the choice if its worth spending the money to change it.

Why you hatin' on Spider-Man red bro?

Don't worry now you can turn it into materia! Think of all those Mind II materia!

This is the new gil sink.

Make you rebuy all your gear every patch.

Its brilliant!

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Originally Posted by viion

This is the new gil sink.

Make you rebuy all your gear every patch.

Its brilliant!

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Sink all the gil right into the pockets of the craft-bots

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Originally Posted by chocothief

Well, I am glad to see that the fashion police won their war, and I actually will enjoy wearing want colors I want, but...

Does this mean the set I bought that was fire engine red to have better stats will now be just ugly ass red?

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Your words cut me deep, and you have insulted my honour as a Red Wizard.

I certainly don't mind having to buy gear all over again if it means I have freedom of choice for the given colors.

Solution: Alchemy Recipie: Dyed Gear + Bleach = Undyed Gear

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Your words cut me deep, and you have insulted my honour as a Red Wizard.

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Wutai must be an RP server; lol!

Harry Potter the red magician in the house :D

Lol at some of you guys. Hope you're right and the stats of the gear stay and only the names change.

wouldn't be the first time they changed the name of stuff in game.... its already a upgraded dyed item the only diffrence is it will now say (omgihaveextastatred)

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Originally Posted by chocothief

Does this mean the set I bought that was fire engine red to have better stats will now be just ugly ass red? All of the other gear I had died for stats will also be just ugly?

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No.

Read the post again.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...687#post445687

If you have a Felt Robe (Red), it will turn into a Felt Robe (increases Mind) (Red)

so the crafters are back to making one of every color to put in wards again? this was bad system too, am i missing something? why don't they make it the players after they buy the gear ...allow them to buy the dye and take it to a vendor to do it. why keep making it so complicated, it's a dye system not brain surgery. this is a basic thing in other mmo's and they just keep failing at it every time.

Weeble this system allowed you to dye the undyed version after it is made.

It's unclear if anyone can dye an item at this stage or whether a crafter of the appropriate level is needed., knowing SE the later :(

I would think from a sales standpoint selling undyed items will be more lucrative now as the player buying can customise the colour afterwards.

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Weeble this system allowed you to dye the undyed version after it is made.

It's unclear if anyone can dye an item at this stage or whether a crafter of the appropriate level is needed., knowing SE the later :(

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right that is what i'm saying, it looks like crafters will go back to making like 10pieces of gear all different colors to put up in wards, or we start to make undyed and take shouts for people who want them died but again it's a broken system. just let the non crafters dye them after they buy them, not the other way around, it just seems like way more work and maybe even a ploy for players to buy way more retainers for bazar space later on. it's the only reason i can see why the idiots at se would make it this way again.

Well I guess if it does turn out that only crafters can dye an item then we need to petition to change it so either anyone can dye an item or an NPC is added to the game to do it.

It's really too bad there isn't a button to summon a community dev when you need one :P

mmos that are not ffxi= gear race. get used to it.

I hope that since color =/= stat now, they will make it so that dyeing the gear does not destroy any attached materia.. that would be tragic.

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It's really too bad there isn't a button to summon a community dev when you need one :P

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Shine the Baysignal in the night Thanalan sky, and leave out some brownies. That might work.

http://i.imgur.com/TalNSl.jpg

you could get new gear with no significant difference in stats but 2 months after job gear will be coming out anyway

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No.

Read the post again.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...687#post445687

If you have a Felt Robe (Red), it will turn into a Felt Robe (increases Mind) (Red)

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Maybe I need help with reading comprehension but I don't see where it says what will happen to existing gear, only recipes and changes to future gear.

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The following revisions will be applied based on changes in gear attributes as a result of dyeing:
Items with a single variant: item attributes and equipping requirements will be unified.
Items with multiple variants: items with different attributes will be renamed, and new color variations added.

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Originally Posted by RemVye

Wutai must be an RP server; lol!

Harry Potter the red magician in the house :D

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I'd rather be called mage then be called a Harry Potter wizard...

Harry Potter is the Twilight on Wizards.

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Maybe I need help with reading comprehension but I don't see where it says what will happen to existing gear, only recipes and changes to future gear.

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Well, any Felt Robe (Red) that you have now has the exact same properties as a 1.20 Felt Robe (Increases Mind) (Red). They'll just change the name accordingly.

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Well, any Felt Robe (Red) that you have now has the exact same properties as a 1.20 Felt Robe (Increases Mind) (Red). They'll just change the name accordingly.

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Don't forget to look at this, too:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4194/textrp.jpg

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Originally Posted by Felis

Don't forget to look at this, too:

[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4194/textrp.jpg[IMG]

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I saw that.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

I hope that since color =/= stat now, they will make it so that dyeing the gear does not destroy any attached materia.. that would be tragic.

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Do expect that to happen, unless they change how it currently works; dyeing = regular crafting recipe = materia destroyed on process.

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Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan

Solution: Alchemy Recipie: Dyed Gear + Bleach = Undyed Gear

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CANNOT. CLICK. LIKE BUTTON. ENOUGH.

I foresee dye costs going up.... :D

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I foresee dye costs going up.... :D

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it will go down again shortly and not overprice

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Solution: Alchemy Recipie: Dyed Gear + Bleach = Undyed Gear

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This would be the best thing to do but just thinking it probably won't work. First that dye job had stats related to it, so if you undye something before 1.20 will the upgraded stats be removed?

Also in the background I am pretty sure bleaching something would be the same as dyeing something which is currently a restriction on the engine currently being used. All releaved in 2.0 which I hope we do have a bleach option with the ability change the color.

No color should be a color choice if you want it.

YES I CAN HAVE MY GREEN GEAR AGAIN (assuming they're adding lots more colors this patch)

I hope there are more colors coming out.
I know Yoshi mentioned something like 32 color's at one point... I'd settle for a dozen

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Originally Posted by weeble

right that is what i'm saying, it looks like crafters will go back to making like 10pieces of gear all different colors to put up in wards, or we start to make undyed and take shouts for people who want them died but again it's a broken system. just let the non crafters dye them after they buy them, not the other way around, it just seems like way more work and maybe even a ploy for players to buy way more retainers for bazar space later on. it's the only reason i can see why the idiots at se would make it this way again.

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The "idiots" at SE are trying to not make crafters even less relevant than they already are. You don't need a crafter to repair anymore, unless it's 100%. If you didn't need them to dye things then all they would do is make undyed gear and that would be the end of it. That would be the one and only reason to ever take up a crafting class. While that's still a pretty good reason, the current crafters would not be happy about it as it would take away yet another bit of their functionality.

Question... Can you Dye gear that has Materia Attached to it? For example i have a Cobalt Plate belt with +15 Enmity on it. With the new Dye system can i Dye it black and still have the Materia on it?

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Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan

Solution: Alchemy Recipie: Dyed Gear + Bleach = Undyed Gear

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You guys forgetting if you go through crafting you lose the Materia attached to the gear... but hey if you have Bleach+3 you might be able to get Undyed Gear HQ...lol

@ coloring gear: You normally needed a dye and another item to upgrade the gear to what you wanted...now it's going to be the item only and not the dye...the dyeing part will be separate from that process or perhaps not but the color itself will have nothing to do with the upgrading part of the process. So you will still get the stats based on what you are actually trying to upgrade to. After that is done then you would make a decision on what color you want it to be and then dye it. If color must be decided during the upgrade process then so be it but you can make it plain colored also. Do not insert materia until this whole process is done.

@ already colored gear: Will still retain its stats and has to remain its current color. At the bottom of that post it states that v2.0 will be when they introduce the ability to change colors without affecting anything else on the gear.

@ dye prices going up: If people are seriously retarded and crazy about making a fashion statement then yes they will go up for the time being. Seeing as how the stats are linked to the upgrade and not the color though I see a serious decline in price after a month of the "coloring craze". The market for dyes will probably fall off in about 3 days and the price will plummet to 500-1000 gil tops...paying more than that would be the fault of seriously lazy people who don't know where their gathering tools are.

All kinds of potential to fix alchemist up in this, probably just gonna be how it is now though. Suits me fine I aint an alchemist :D. That said dyeing and making fine looking gear is what I play crafting classes for- theres an accomplishment in "I made something that looks somewhat cool." I dont make subligars anymore.

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theres an accomplishment in "I made something that looks somewhat cool." I dont make subligars anymore.

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Wait... you contradict yourself.

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